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My ancient first Titan from Feb. 2013, fossil, idles at 36 Celsius, in a usual case. Full load at 77 Celsius (very demanding games). Ambient room temp is about 18 - 20 Celsius.

Hello @WSC4! I am glad that Malwarebytes 1.75.0.1300 is working for you under Windows XP 64-bit with the help of my instructions. I personally couldn't test it under this OS because I only use Windows XP Professional SP3. Therefore, thanks for your report!

Finally managed to build a working cross-compiled version. Since the previous one was built on a different system, perhaps Windows 7 was implicitly supported then, but I had to be explicit about maintaining Windows 7 support this time around. This version also has updates disabled, so for those who don't want to see nags about updates, this may also be of interest, in addition to the speed improvements - source and binary available here: https://github.com/InterLinked1/fastfilezilla

The one about the nationality of software and hardware firms and more generally about software authors and hardware vendors(and their ancestry). jaclaz

Beta versions of Windows 10 were originally known as Windows NT 6.4. It isn't exactly a stretch to assume they bumped the kernel version up to 10.0 to match its name.

It's a marketing name to make users think the kernel is new, in fact it's still 6.x. The kernel is certainly updated, but in fact the difference between Win7 and Win10 is the same as between Vista and Win8.1.

... Again, cautionary words from "upstream" : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=242821#p242821 ... So, as I've stated multiple times in the past myself, "use e10s at your own risk" (I'm not, if you care to ask ) ... Browsers like Serpent and Mypal 68 in single-process mode, that's what I only use under Windows XP. Stable and ideal for old computers.

... Again, cautionary words from "upstream" : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=242821#p242821 ... So, as I've stated multiple times in the past myself, "use e10s at your own risk" (I'm not, if you care to ask ) ...

To each their own. I find it distracting. Many people around the world consider GPU-Z to be the best. Its readings are accurate.

Sounds about right! I have a third gen. Titan XP (2016), idles at 39, full load's at 79-81. Maybe because of the sunny side of the house.

... Well. the Protonmail can't-log-in bug has now hit "upstream", with the release of PM 32.4.0 : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30256 As is common in such cases , Moonchild was quick to put the blame on Protonmail rather than on his own browser ... It is also suggested there that @Mehmed's solution posted here isn't really foolproof, because the bodies of older e-mails, encrypted with the old RSA (2048) 4096-bit key, can't be decrypted with the newly created ECC Curve25519 key and, as a consequence, those older e-mails can't be read anymore by their original recipient ...

Maybe his card has passive cooling. Another possibility. it's too old (pre-2008-2009) to downclock itself, when in idle, or the drivers are buggy.

If Celsius, it's way too hot for idle.

v4 works here, too. Note, that the Kstub.ini with RaiseException in core.ini must placed on the right to Kexbasen,Kexbases. It doesn't work, if it is on the left side.

Just updated. 🙂 Alternative link: https://github.com/nicolaasjan/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp_x86_Windows-XP.zip

I was very interested to stumble upon Monroe's post, July 12, about Malwarebytes version 1.75.0.1300 First of all, I am running XP 64-bit and for years I have been using Malwarebytes version 2.2.1.1043. This is the only one I could find that installs and runs on XP 64-bit. Unfortunately, some time ago Malwarebytes decided to block the downloading of the latest definitions for this version, I have tested this out, and All versions listed above 2.2.1.1043 will not install on XP 64-bit. 1.75.0.1300 installs fine on XP 64-bit I found this to be important thanks to AstroSkipper: deactivate the automatic programme update to avoid receiving an unwanted programme upgrade! This happened to me about about 4 times after each press of the Check for Update button.. Thanks to AstroSkipper again: If updating doesn't work directly, try again, and again, and again until it works! From now on, you will receive the latest virus definitions. Using the program and scanning files works great on XP 64-bit

I basically only trust the readings from GPU-Z, if we talk only about GPU temperature. Just a suggestion, may add in autostart mode.

Sounds very much like a theory, I'm eager to know, where and how could you (or anyone else) make a comparison of these completely closed source products.

Latest Nightly build also works, at the time of this writing.

Because Opera is Chinese (for about a decade now), and as far as I see it, they aren't concerned about any older OS in particular, it's rather because the Chinese are just slow at advancing it. But in this case it works in your favour.

The disadvantage of MSE is that it depends on Windows updates to get the definitions. There are certain computers that can't get updated. Like those HP stream laptops with 32GB of space. I have tried Kaspersky and 360 Security. Both are light. But you get more ads with 360 Security. I forgot to say that I tried the new Zone Alarm in one of the computers in the office and it was very light but as soon as I installed it I had problems with network printers. They wouldn't work. Tried playing with the settings but there's not much to configure in the new Zone Alarm so I gave up on it. But if you don't have network printers it's alright. It's very light as well.

SpyBot - Search & Destroy Free Edition SpyBot - Search & Destroy Free Edition is an on-demand anti-spyware scanner. It searches your hard disk for all known types of spyware, adware and potentially unwanted programs. It offers powerful features to remove these threats and thus protect your privacy. It automatically detects: adware networks, attempts at host redirection, registry modifications, and unwanted changes in the browser configuration of Internet Explorer and Firefox. If an attempt is made to redirect your computer to a different Domain Name Server without your permission, Spybot can detect and stop this happening. It also protects your privacy by removing these tracks. SpyBot - Search & Destroy 2.4.40.0 is the last compatible version with Windows XP (and Vista) and free of charge. It still receives latest definition updates in these days as reported by @Cixert. Comparison of features: Homepage: https://web.archive.org/web/20140703163113/https://www.safer-networking.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140701051907/http://www.safer-networking.org/private/details/#Free Version number: 2.4.40.0 Date of creation: 24.06.2014 Date of release: 01.07.2014 System requirements: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 Release notes: https://www.safer-networking.org/new-spybot-2-4-fixes-several-updating-problems/ Review: https://softchamp.com/download-spybot-search-and-destroy Download links: Installer: http://updates3.safer-networking.org/spybot1/spybot-2.4.exe Offline updater for antispyware definitions: https://www.safer-networking.org/updates/files/spybotsd_includes.exe Instructions for offline updating: Apply the executable spybotsd_includes.exe. Select the programme folder of Spybot – Search & Destroy. The files will be added to the Includes folder within the Spybot program folder. Screenshots: SpyBot - Search & Destroy was written by the German software engineer Patrick Michael Kolla, and is distributed by Kolla's Irish company Safer-Networking Limited. I used SpyBot - Search & Destroy a long time under Windows ME and some years under Windows XP. It served me well in those days. Thanks to @Cixert for reporting that SpyBot - Search & Destroy 2.4.40.0 is the last version which still receives definition updates in 2023! Cheers, AstroSkipper

Vista and 7 don't support UEFI boot mode (which is the default BIOS setting for Sky/Kabylake systems since 2015), but I'm sure you knew that already? This error due to USB, no, I don't think so, he wrote he installed the system , so the USB stick worked, but he can remove it, just to make sure, after the install completed, before the final reboot.

Both (Vista and 7) don't have USB3.0/1 drivers at all! So to make an install on a modern board, you need to take boot.wim (NOT install.wim) from Windows 8!

Not sure why all the hassle then? boot.wim won't add the drivers into your system, it has a temp driver only, for the installation process only! (hence the name "boot")

Why not? It works with the new mobos that need USB3.1 drivers for the installation (the ones that don't have PS/2). But he made a mistake, he would have needed to take boot.win, not install.wim from Windows 8, not 7! 7 is too old, and missing these drivers.

Please include the specs, was it HDD or SSD and so on.

After all this time, does AC Valhalla run on Windows 8.1? On one hand, you need directx12 and windows 8.1 is only compatible with directx11.1. On another, perhaps a fix exists? Please let me know.

I'm afraid not, because it would require backporting the whole shared memory API from Windows 10 build 1809 to windows 8.1. Better/easier/legally safer to build chromium from scratch (source), which is open, so anyone can try.

Yep! No problem using most recent definition updates for an old version as long as the format is compatible. PS: I agree capitalisation is annoying, hard to read, and actually means shouting in forums. Therefore, it is considered impolite.

Def. update is a blob in the format they previously used, just added new known vulnerabilities, collected during these years. .>>> Could you please not use CAPSLOCK, at least not that often, thanks.

@Dave-H I know that you, like me, have been using Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1.2522 under Windows XP for years, and you are an active member of the Malwarebytes Forum. Did you read somewhere or notice that old versions such as Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75.0.1300 are supported again with regard to updating the virus definitions? I actually thought those versions were abandoned long time ago. However, as you may have seen, I was able to reactivate this function of this old version which had not worked for a long time. See here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1248964 What do you think about that? Have they possibly changed their policy? Greetings, AstroSkipper

You're welcome! And don't forget it was you who made me investigate all this!

Thank you for clarifying! So, Spybot - Search & Destroy 2.4.40 is the last version working under Windows XP and still allows updating its database. Good to know that and noted! It was already on my internal list. But, due to your confirmation, I will write an article about it soon and present it here as an option for Windows XP. Thanks again! As I already said, you are really helpful here.

Once again, for all those who, like me, have withdrawn their trust in Kaspersky, don't want to use it anymore for whatever reason, which can't be discussed here in all its facets, and still need an antimalware programme with a background guard for their old computer after September 2023, there will be another solution beyond Kaspersky. One, for example, is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Pro 1.75.0.1300. And there is more than this one. I will write about it soon. IMHO, Kaspersky is no longer an option for Windows XP and should be avoided due to significant security risks which were already discussed sufficiently here in this thread. And to permanently offer others something that one is not willing to use oneself is becoming more and more questionable.

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware v1 Free/Pro (compatible version with SSE only CPUs) Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware is a high performance anti-malware application that thoroughly removes even the most advanced malware and spyware. With effective, quick scans and malware removal capabilities, this program is the perfect addition to your PC's defences. It is still XP-compatible and can be used in two versions, Free or Pro. The full version of the product includes a number of key features, including the ability to schedule updates and scans, and most importantly, a real-time malware protection module that blocks malicious processes and websites before they even start. Furthermore, this antimalware programme supports old computers with a CPU lacking of the SSE2 instruction set. Features: Here is a screenshot of a comparison between Free and Pro version: Homepage: https://web.archive.org/web/20130618025654/http://www.malwarebytes.org/ Version number: 1.75.0.1300 Date of release: 09.04.2013 System requirements: Windows XP, Windows 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7 Release notes: Review: https://www.ghacks.net/2013/04/10/malwarebytes-anti-malware-1-75-update-adds-archive-scanning/ Download links: Installer: Installer of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75.0.1300 Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware Database Update: mbam-rules-2019.10.17.zip Installation: Remove any old installation of Malwarebytes! Run the installer mbam-setup-1.75.0.1300.exe provided by the first link above, but do not start the programme directly after installation has been finished! Now, execute the file mbam-rules.exe which is inside the file mbam-rules-2019.10.17.zip provided by the second link above! This will update the installation and bring it up to date as of 17.10.2019. Be sure to deactivate the automatic programme update to avoid receiving an unwanted programme upgrade! Finally, select your other options and update the virus definitions via the Update programme tab! If updating doesn't work directly, try again until it works! From now on, you will receive the latest virus definitions. Explanation: The manual, offline Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware Database Update not only updates the virus definitions, but also changes the internal update server addresses. This step allows the programme to access the update server again. Screenshots: Trial version: Free version: Pro version: Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75.0.1300 is the last release of the version 1. It can be used as an offline scanner or, if the user own a licence, as an antimalware programme with real-time protection, especially on old computers which lack of the SSE2 instruction set, i.e., SSE and not more. It is very lightweight, low on resources and can be used in other Windows XP systems, too, of course. I used it in the past and was fine with it. And, I will install it on my old Athlon XP computer. And finally, thanks to @Monroe for reporting that his installation of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75.0.1300 is still receiving most recent definition updates in 2023. Greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper

:OT I use the well-known, very good screenshot programme Hardcopy from sw4you. Another German software and absolutely great! I use it for more than 20 years. It is free of charge and still XP-compatible. I save all screenshots in the file format PNG and upload them to an image hoster. The hoster I use is postimage. It works as it should and is free of charge in standard mode. You have to register there, of course. :END OF OT

Thank you for providing information! In the VB100 test report from 21.04.2023, Vir.IT eXplorer just about passed their test with a detection rate of 77.40% (at least 75.00% was required). Unfortunately, that is definitely not marvellous. Is this program well known or popular in Italy? In Germany, it is totally unknown and never mentioned in terms of available antimalware programs.

Hello @jaclaz! Vir.IT eXplorer was your recommendation addressed to @D.Draker. You are Italian, and the program originates in Italy. What do you know about this program in detail? Is it well-known in Italy? Is it considered to be a good protection program? Did you make any own experiences?

Thanks but once again! I know the homepage of Vir.IT eXplorer which was already linked by me here: Quotes from or links to the homepage don't help me at all. What I need is real data based on experiences made by people who really use or have used it a longer time. Or links to trustworthy reviews. Or opinions from members knowing interesting or helpful facts about that program. A short test in a VM is rather meaningless! Anyway! Vir.IT eXplorer is an unknown candidate and therefore problematic.

Of course, online scanners are on my internal list and will be listed here. TBH, there is already a lot on my internal list. Nevertheless, thanks for the tip!

I asked a simple , *important* , on-topic question, which you, BTW, completely ignored. Yes, I added a sentence to show my opinion. I can't see how it inflates your topic that much. You better hope Mina3679 and legasyfan don't show up here, lol. Also, I already wrote my feedback about the marvellous Ferrari Italian AV jaclaz found for me. Kind regards, D.Draker.

I always have the same concerns about software, regardless of whether it originates in Germany, France, Italy, USA, China, India or whatever country. There are good and bad developers, companies that can be trusted more or less, governments that do or do not influence, and so on. At the end of the day, these discussions do not serve any purpose here. This thread is meant to list all available security programs that are still compatible with Windows XP and to spread information about them. Therefore, I would ask you at this point to keep this thread clean, to stop discussions about concerns regarding the country of origin and to contribute something substantive when commenting. I need information, results of testing, recommendations, experiences made in terms of already listed or yet to be listed programs, and further options for Windows XP. My time and resources are limited. So please, be constructive and let's not inflate this thread with unnecessary discussions ! In the end, from all the options listed, the mature readers can decide for themselves which software to trust or not. And I cannot and will not take this personal responsibility away from anyone. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, AstroSkipper

For those who were seeking "official" confirmation. Opera finally admits they lied . After I pressured them ? I dunno. A reminder : 96 is based on chrome 110, which I ported to Vista. https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/changelog-for-96/ "DNA-104390 Remove Windows 7, 8 support ..." https://msfn.org/board/topic/184249-chrome-110-based-opera-i-ported-it-to-vista/

Bad news - it looks like GDI dependencies were completely removed.

So today I tried to play with it and got all of the missing replaced and it launches in a matter of several milliseconds and then quits. I can see the main windows with aero and it is blank (white page). This is with the launcher, of course. Also it wanted me to replace SetProcessInformation (even though it was not shown in Dep. walker). And PrefetchVirtualMemory (was shown in the walker) had to be repaced too. SetProcessInformation and PrefetchVirtualMemory are Win 8 and up. The result is the same on Vista and Win 7. EDIT: No aero on Win 7, of course.

Who told you that ? The 1st alpha release works with nosandbox on Windows 7 Read here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184046-future-of-chrome-on-windows-7/?do=findComment&comment=1235004 Later versions of 110, no. https://msfn.org/board/topic/184046-future-of-chrome-on-windows-7/?do=findComment&comment=1230307 I'm not aggressive, it was a simple question. I'm calm, thanks. But I prefer you stay on topic, calmly.

Very interesting post ! Brings a lot of new and useful information about the future of chrome on windows 7 !

Excuse me, what does it have to do with "future of chrome on windows 7" ? I'm new here, and I was warned right on the first instance by @Dave-H, when asked a question in the wrong topic, I'm just wondering how it seems totally fine when some others here, you for example, are freely allowed to do what they want. Is it like your off-topic post No. 1992779 ? Just seems unfair. And no sandbox is for Windows 7.

Chrome 111 arrived as Beta, and it doesn't work on windows 7, surprise ...not. Officially doesn't work on windows 8.1.