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... That MB Forum poster never mentioned WinXP himself, TBH , but he did write: in his original post; "legacy systems with Never Expiring License" do comprise WinXP, though, hence the rise of interest here ... In one of his subsequent posts, "he" made it clear "he" was running 3.5.1. on Vista and Win7; it's relatively easy to tell from the screenshot in his OP that it's been taken from one of his Win7 systems... ; I wouldn't do that myself; for all they know, the admins of that support forum live under the impression "That version (i.e. 3.5.1) no longer has updates."; tipping them that their impression is not true currently will only result in them tipping, in turn, those involved, who, no doubt, would turn a (perhaps forgotten?) switch to OFF even sooner ... BTW, I see no reason now for further posts about MBAM Legacy updating its definitions/pattern signatures on either XP or Vista ; ; what would be "post-worthy", no doubt, is the time it stops doing so permanently (on either OS) ...

At the beginning of March, this 5-year-old thread was only 27 pages long!? I took a vacation from MSFN this month because certain members were driving me nuts, and spent most of the afternoon yesterday catching up on reading this thread - but I didn’t learn very much. I’m glad that someone (AstroSkipper) finally tried Qihoo 360. Back in the day, no one wanted to use anything from China; but the 360 Chromium fork is your best browser option now so might as well consider their antivirus I guess!? I replied about the Malwarebytes “crisis” on the previous page, but it should be noted that version 3.5.1 will reach 5 years of age on May 8, so no one should be surprised if definition updates are soon cut off - just as they were for version 2.2.1 (an old favorite of mine) nearly a year ago.

Hello MSFN members ! We have news, thanks to @WinFX :

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230401-3219d2d-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230401-3219d2d-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230401-3219d2d-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230401-d849524bd-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230401-d849524bd-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230401-d849524bd-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230401-d849524bd-uxp-c867bd4fe-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2176 - Don't reconstruct the parent when tearing down display:contents nodes with pseudo-elements. (dd2697172) - Issue #2175 - Fix build bustage in WebRTC. (1788589ca) - Issue #2155 - Split Nestable to ds/ and EmitterScope to EmitterScope.{cpp.h} (81691afbc) - Issue #2155 - Move NestableControl classes except ForOfLoopControl to BytecodeControlStructures.{cpp.h} (a8ac1cac3) - Issue #2155 - Move TryEmitter and ForOfLoopControl to TryEmitter.{cpp.h} and ForOfLoopControl.{cpp.h} (70e1654c3) - Issue #2155 - Add SwitchEmitter (2554a83d1) - Issue #61 - Reinstate buildability with shared gkmedias dll (371d7cf05) - Issue #61 - Place Skia in libxul (6b3767c44) - Issue #61 - Add configure option for non-windows platforms (924bf92e4) - Issue #61 - Add missing external symbol cubeb_set_log_callback to gkmedias symbols.def (c85f28b0c) - Issue #61 - Add missing external symbols for gkmedias when WebRTC is built (6b510a74e) - Issue #62 - Get --enable-shared-js and --enable-export-js working again, and fix link bustage related to ICU when doing shared lib (b171da18f) - Issue #62 - Fix xul.dll link bustage related to MovableCellHasher. (2c8387f4f) - Issue #62 - Fix xul.dll link bustage relating to JSErrorNotes. (6890cdd9a) - Issue #62 - Fix xul.dll link bustage related to JS::ubi::DominatorTree. (ed30a9646) - Issue #2165 - Build ICU as a shared library if we're building Spidermonkey shared. (bad884a7c) - Issue #2165 - Follow-up: Always build ICU as shared lib in Windows. (18e43fad2) - Issue #324 - Follow-up: Remove more traces of *INTL_API. (9ff14017e) - Issue #2165 - Disable LNK4217 and LNK4286 warnings when linking ICU as they're too spammy. (f09b0002e) - Issue #62 - Always build Spidermonkey as shared lib in Windows. (66eaa872f) - Issue #1831 - Add an option to enable TLS 1.3 "compatibility" mode. (ca93d4b42) - Issue #2180 - Add pref to control NSS TLS 1.3 protocol downgrade sentinel (dc4bf9b82) - Issue #2180 - Follow-up: Move sentinel check up a bit. (f6f0a495a) Official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build: - [Pale-Moon] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#61 - Add gkmedias back to package-manifest (d7a120958) - [Pale-Moon] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#2165 - Support ICU as shared library in packaging. (f284afab4) - [Pale-Moon] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#2165 - Follow-up: Simplify OS detection for MOZ_SHARED_ICU check. (64bc4788e) Official Basilisk changes picked since my last build: - [Basilisk] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#61 - Add gkmedias to package-manifest (e6ed122e1) My changes since my last build: - [Basilisk] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#2165 - Support ICU as shared library in packaging. (09138ab01) - gkmedias: add missing `_moz_cairo_scaled_font_get_hint_metrics` export, fix linking (68d130e55) - [Basilisk] Issue MoonchildProductions/UXP#2165 - Follow-up: Simplify OS detection for MOZ_SHARED_ICU check. (c867bd4fe) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Yes, I read that yesterday.

I mean, I feel sorry that you lost trust and hope in Malwarebytes, despite being an old customer of Malwarebytes.

You can give Notepad++ extension Compare a try, too. https://sourceforge.net/projects/npp-compare/files/ Last Notepad++ for XP is 7.9.2. Yes, I also like and use WinMerge.

Modify 360chrome.exe Program needed: Resource Hacker Source: http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/#download Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application Copy 360chrome.exe to a temporary working folder Open temporary folder's 360chrome.exe in Resource Hacker Expand Version Info and select 1 : 1033 Edit VALUE "FileDescription", "360极速浏览器" to VALUE "FileDescription", "360Chrome" Edit VALUE "ProductName", "360极速浏览器" to VALUE "ProductName", "360Chrome" Edit VALUE "ProductShortName", "360极速浏览器" to VALUE "ProductShortName", "360Chrome" Select Action dropdown menu and select Compile Script Select File dropdown menu and select Save Exit Resource Hacker Program needed: HxD Source: https://mh-nexus.de/en/downloads.php?product=HxD20 Open the 360chrome.exe in the temporary working folder that was created in the above Resource Hacker step in HxD Search Unicode for User Data\safemon Replace 55 00 73 00 65 00 72 00 20 00 44 00 61 00 74 00 61 00 5C 00 73 00 61 00 66 00 65 00 6D 00 6F 00 6E 00 with 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Search Non-Unicode for SignalIfShowCrashDialog Replace 53 69 67 6E 61 6C 49 66 53 68 6F 77 43 72 61 73 68 44 69 61 6C 6F 67 with 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Search Non-Unicode for SignalInitializeCrashReporting Replace 53 69 67 6E 61 6C 49 6E 69 74 69 61 6C 69 7A 65 43 72 61 73 68 52 65 70 6F 72 74 69 6E 67 with 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Search Unicode for http://chrome.360.cn Replace with hxxp://chrome.360.cn Select File dropdown menu and select Save Exit HxD Copy the 360chrome.exe just saved and replace the 360chrome.exe in ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application Delete temporary working folder

Create Base Folder Structure Source File: https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Description: 360 Extreme Explorer 13.5.2036.0 (Repack & Portable) Create Folder Execute _Unpack Portable.cmd to create base 360Chrome folder structure I rename the 360Chrome folder to ! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled so below instructions will use this name as reference Delete files and subfolders / Create zero-byte files Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\User Data\Default Delete file Google Profile.ico Delete file Secure Preferences Delete file Top Sites Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application\components Delete folder download Delete folder npflash Delete folder ppflash Create zero-byte file download Create zero-byte file npflash Create zero-byte file ppflash Create zero-byte file widevine12 (optional) Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application\13.5.2036.0 Rename subfolder Locales to locales (optional) Rename file libEGL.dll to libegl.dll (optional) Rename file libGLESv2.dll to libglesv2.dll (optional) Delete folder plugins Delete file 360base.dll Delete file audiomute.dll Delete file change_wallpaper.zip Delete file eacl.dat Delete file errorpage.zip Delete file last_tabs.zip Delete file MobileAdapter.dll Delete file newtab.zip Delete file nocoin.dat Delete file SnapPlugin.dll Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application\13.5.2036.0\locales Rename en-US.pak to en-us.pak (optional) Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application\13.5.2036.0\swiftshader Rename file libEGL.dll to libegl.dll (optional) Rename file libGLESv2.dll to libglesv2.dll (optional) Navigate to ..\! 360ChromePortable_13.5.2036_rebuild_1_ungoogled\Chrome\Application\13.5.2036.0\skin Delete file jisu9_chrome.srx Delete file jisu9_dark.srx Delete file jisu9wallpaper.srx Delete file jisu11.srx Delete file jisu13.srx

This Malwarebytes “crisis” appears to have been precipitated by ONE user who reported not getting any updates!? The screenshot he posted wasn’t even from a Vista or XP system because “Ransomware protection” (which never supported XP or Vista) was shown as “On” rather than greyed out! (Another possibility: He attempted to activate that feature on Vista with a registry hack, rendering MB 3.5.1 incapable of updating.) Perhaps you should post to tell that user that 3.5.1 is working fine on XP and Vista, and that newer versions are available for Windows 7? Imacri would rather point out errors in the removal of XP/Vista documentation from their forum it seems.

Thank you, guys, I'll be fine just, been a bit rough I think. Don't worry I'll try again tomorrow. Not so much sad but more numb, I guess. Just going to have to avoid all news today and you may know already and filter what I watch. I don't know. Thank you for asking and that means a lot and I'll be back tomorrow and going to put on my headphones.

Hey i found a typo, v5.3

Hi @XPerceniol, how are you, friend?

It's alright, i've seen most people saying "legacy windows is dead" a lot of times (not just in MSFN, in other forums too), but at last, nothing happens, because it's people's choice to use whatever OS they want.

ya I should of not been so down when I said that (it not good to be sad!) and legacy windows is not dead!

Valve dropping support for 7/8 , enjoy Steam while you can. https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

There's a patch by Dibya that claims to allow up to 128GB of RAM to be usable, however I've never tested it myself so I can't verify whether or not it would be useful for your case. I didn't see it mentioned in the thread so far but figured it would be worth noting.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release: https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.4.7-Goanna-20230401.7z Changelog: Out-of-tree changes: * update Goanna3 to git 03c3a2ab87...09c7525bc8: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 448064 - Add crashtest. (d7e9a3f9bb) - Minor cleanup (cbab3e1ede) - Bug 1222829: Remove URIChecker. r=mcmanus (74c16ae58c) - Bug 1220682 - Clear exceptions on single-arg init. r=bz # Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting (4736e0fb57) - Bug 1229237 (part 1) - Make nsIWidget::{Create,CreateChildren}() take a LayoutDeviceIntRect. r=botond. (992ec123ff) - Bug 1229237 (part 2) - Make nsIWidget::DrawWindowUnderlay() take a LayoutDeviceIntRect. r=botond. (ad4f13440d) - Bug 1229237 (part 3) - Make nsIWidget::Invalidate() take a LayoutDeviceIntRect. r=botond. (19f10846a3) - Bug 1229237 (part 4) - Make ThemeGeometry::mRect a LayoutDeviceIntRect. r=botond. (5f17f6be14) - Bug 1228125 (part 1) - Remove nsIWidget::GetBoundsUntyped(). r=botond. (5e4d0811e7) - Bug 1228125 (part 2) - Remove nsIWidget::GetScreenBoundsUntyped(). r=botond. (3ac4b3271b) - Bug 1228125 (part 3) - Remove nsIWidget::GetClientBoundsUntyped(). r=botond. (7163a1a6e6) - Bug 1229237 (part 5) - Make Update{Opaque,WindowDragging}Region() take a LayoutDeviceIntRegion. r=botond. (907aafd4c0) - missing bit Bug 1229237 (part 1) (c160f227b3) - missing bit Bug 1229237 (part 1) (edc4237028) - Bug 1215959 - (GeckoCaret2) update experimental prefs, r=snorp (df3a19e142) - Bug 1168881 - Enabling AccessibleCarets crashes Firefox when trying to input text, r=tylin (abbd401672) - Bug 1215959 - (GeckoCaret2) Remove experimental bits added to Touch/Selection carets, r=tylin (291385ad0e) - Bug 1219236 - Part 1: Flush throttle styles for all descendant sub documents and *root* document itself. r=roc (b6c4d4c815) - Bug 1153130 - Prevent FireFox crashes when pointer events are enabled. r=smaug (a7093fae15) - Bug 1226041 - Remove mFirstPaint hack for JPZC when the C++ APZ is enabled. r=kats (6af6102f1f) - Bug 1223228 - Remove unused nsFrameManagerBase::mStyleSet. r=dholbert (9145f9cb38) - Bug 1189353 - Change NS_ macro prefix to MOZ_ in AccessibleCaretEventHub. r=mtseng (820920546e) - Bug 1210315 - Use preference to control whether to use long tap injector. r=roc (00ee7e8874) - Bug 1206545 - Store nsIPresShell pointer in constructor instead of Init(). r=roc (6a9f8216f7) - Bug 1194063 - Update link to point to the diagram directly. r=mtseng (3d627f37da) - Bug 1225701 - Update comments in AccessibleCaret files. r=mtseng (fe1d296655) - Bug 1211365 - Remove NS_IMPL_STATE_UTILITIES. r=mtseng (79713764b9) - Bug 1211365 - Make deleted functions in class State public. r=mtseng (da2df347b3) - Bug 1211365 - Delete wheel event handling. r=mtseng (7bacb7e8f5) - Bug 1200194 - Tweak formatting and debug logging. r=roc (148a22ce3c) - Bug 1082425 - Commit composition string before changing focus by long tap. r=masayuki (1452e46511) - Bug 1196176 - No need to test mLastUpdateCaretMode. r=mtseng (fc93c83698) - Bug 1196176 - Hide carets for mouse down reason. r=mtseng (3c13762b86) - Bug 1209841 - Merge test_selectioncarets2.py into test_selectioncarets.py. r=automatedtester (35575914b9) - Bug 1209841 - Simplify functions related to select word. r=automatedtester (56bf6052e1) - Bug 1209841 - Send synthesized mouse long tap to gecko. r=automatedtester (e83509d49b) - Bug 1210315 - Inline selectors in carets tests. r=automatedtester (cebad9b688) - Bug 1163490 - Remove SpecialPowers from marionette carets test. r=jgriffin (fd1e4b6442) - Bug 1210315 - Use pref utilities in test_selectioncarets.py. r=automatedtester (09efee2a80) - Bug 1207934 - Add marionette test for appearance changing. r=automatedtester (6e1c5aea60) - Bug 1210315 - Use pref utilities in test_touchcaret.py. r=automatedtester (a17a92808e) - Bug 1200364 - Fix AccessibleCaret jumps when dragging. r=roc (66c36347f7) - Bug 1203074: Move caret to end of textual input field before sending keys (1a8cf55bd7) - Bug 1164233 - Enlarge the timeout margin from 1.5x to 3x. r=mtseng (188b17550d) - Bug 1196176 - Fix CaretStateChanged not dispatch on empty content. r=mtseng (5d6930c1e1) - Bug 1196176 - Do not fire extra CaretStateChanged event when typing. r=mtseng (93f4ccdc97) - Bug 1211365 - Add test case for scrolling in selection mode. r=mtseng (bfd69f4337) - Bug 1212732 - Update caret in cursor mode on scroll-end if it was logically visible. r=roc (07ddba2c15) - Bug 1215959 - (GeckoCaret2) Upgrade Core and AccessibleCaret, r=smaug (fe388a4b37) - Bug 1216857 - Notify selection dialog to update its position if carets are logically visible. r=TYLin (e759cbe5cd) - Bug 1215798 nsContentIterator::Init(nsIDOMRange*) should not skip empty start node when mPre is true r=smaug (013857d99d) - Bug 1215816 nsContentIterator::Init(nsIDOMRange*) should not include end node if it's an empty element and the end offset is 0 when mPre is true r=smaug (5276c84afb) (d64e96b4a0) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1132213 - Remove newChannel2 and asyncFetch2 calls in the "jsdownloads" folder. r=paolo (15afbc22f6) - Bug 1223437 - Use channel.asyncOpen2 in toolkit/components/jsdownloads/test/unit (r=sicking) (62de0552b6) - Bug 1225641 - Change default security flags within NetUtil.newChannel (r=sicking) (f04a8d6a1d) - Bug 1224467 - Add a preference for controlling whether oneCRL blocklists are updated via AMO. Also add a test. r=keeler,mossop (06c4ce13f9) - Bug 1170760 part 1. Introduce a PromiseCapability struct. r=baku,efaust (068615a4cd) - Bug 1170760 part 2. Pass in the 'this' value to Promise static methods. r=peterv (170fd5de55) - Bug 1170760 part 3. Add an @@species getter on Promise. r=peterv (182a90f4ee) - Bug 1170760 part 4. Change Promise::Constructor to run in the Xray compartment when new Promise happens over Xrays. r=peterv (ac9bf8968b) - Bug 1170760 part 5. Implement NewPromiseCapability which can either return a PromiseCapability as in the spec, or one that has a native promise and maybe resolve/reject functions if the consumer asked for them. r=baku,efaust (6c74f4ebdf) - Bug 1170760 part 6. Fix GetDependentPromise to deal with a situation when someone called then() and passed it the resolve/reject functions that come from a promise's constructor. r=baku (fa6504ca29) - Bug 1170760 part 7. Add subclassing support to Promise::Race. r=baku,efaust (d43c0782d6) - Bug 1170760 part 8. Add subclassing support to Promise::All. r=baku,efaust (37d8577256) - Bug 1170760 part 9. Stop using Promise::Resolve in the bindings for PromiseDebugging. r=baku (3c3073d0fa) - Bug 1170760 part 10. Add subclassing support to Promise::Resolve. r=baku,efaust (22a5f2b385) - Bug 1170760 part 11. Add subclassing support to Promise::Reject. r=baku,efaust (c696a0a9fe) - Bug 1170760 part 12. Rip out the promise-resolved-with-promise fast path. r=baku (a1815842e2) - Bug 1170760 part 13. Add subclassing support to Promise::Then/Catch. r=baku,efaust (3fd8f2502d) (09c7525bc8) * Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses. A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

So, what you are trying to say is, it doesn't matter to you anymore if you are an old customer or not, right?

Is it possible to get the lastest version of Telegram working? Nothing happens when launching the installer.

Which must be the consequence of not driving as much. I refill on average at 23-day intervals. The best fuel economy I've managed is 4.5 l/100km (52.27 mpg). So I also beat your neighbor with my less fuel-efficient car. Though it can't be fair comparison since we don't have all the data laid out.

neither do I.

So further on from my post in the XP forum, I decided to play around on Windows ME to see if I could get the new Java based Spotify client working and to my surprise it works and plays! Steps included installing Java 6 then Java 8 as per the instructions on the forum. I have manually set appdata in command line to a folder called appdata in C root however I need to test if this is required or not. I don’t believe there has been a spotify client up to now for Win 9x so this may be quite a novelty for some!

Yes the link mina7601 posted is the download link. I haven't tested the latest 1.6 version. After getting kernelex installed you need to get the core updates. Once these are setup you should be along the right path to then get Java going. You need to install Java 6 first which I believe is the last installable version and then download jre8. Once downloaded and extracted (the instructions are on the forum) you need to set the exe's to WinXPSP2 compatibility as per firefox. Once java is set you need to add a path in msconfig. The path for msconfig is essentially just to redirect the appdata folder for the app as it uses this location to store config data. I kept things easy and made a folder called appdata in my c: root. Msconfig has the environment tab which allows you to then set this variable. After, start the jar app using jre8 and not the version 6 you installed earlier. Once done you should be good to go

See this: https://reactos.org/wiki/Installing_ReactOS#System_requirements Also, this: https://reactos.org/wiki/Supported_Hardware

Sure, no worries. I even wrote yesterday that I wouldn't be surprised if the updates get pulled now.

What can I say now about Artificial Intelligence? Each calculation is primitive as much as possible. Nature shows in last 4.5 Billion years, that this concept with Hidden Layers is more sucessfull than any other. It is strict sequential. But parts can run at the same time. Interesting here is, that those artificial Neurons always fire. So, not all good from natural Neuron is still in compi as today, 31 March 2023. When you know Gauß "Methode der kleinsten Quadrate" and Matrix Multiplication, thats all. But: With enough computing power, no more invention is needed. Those machines can recognice every pattern, if there is one. For example I noticed, that in the Prime Numbers are more stored in, than only its divisibilty. So, in principle we already build a Super Intelligence, which is more capable than any human will ever be. Only the enormous power consumption gives as at the moment a chance to survive: 10.000.000.000 more power need any cpu, compared with Human brain. This problem will only be solved with Quantum Computers. The same Algorithm are there already. Until now, a machine with Intelligence of normal human person, needs all US power plants Dietmar

Thanks! But which loss do you mean? There is personally no serious loss. If Malwarebytes really stops rolling out fresh definition updates, the current state will be good enough for a while. Of course, no new definition updates would be a great pity and another setback for all users on Windows XP and Vista. But my license is also valid for the most recent 4.5.25 or upcoming versions, i.e. versions targeting Windows 7 or 10. It's a lifetime license, whatever lifetime means, of course especially according to the recent experiences made.

Yeah sorry about that i forgot to mention the version, the minecraft version 1.19.2, its java 17 and up, with the extended kernel youre able to just run the game but you cant join servers or worlds

Update: I managed to do a modified Firefox 3.0b4, and Firefox 3.0b5 build, but the most notable problem with the builds is the absence of EnsureDeviceContext() in nsDocShell.cpp which is responsible for setting the font size for the menu bar to ~128 pixels. Also, most of the text in the context menus have font sizes ~1-2 pixels in size, which is too small to read, and at the moment, I'm unsure of how to remedy that problem. My Firefox 3.0b4 Visual C++ 6.0 mod: My Firefox 3.0b5 Visual C++ 6.0 mod: My last successful build of Firefox 3.0 was 3.0a4, so I think I want to revert more of the code in suspicious directories (layout/* ?) to what existed in Firefox 3.0a4. @roytam1 I assume you know about comparing changes between files using diff file readers. Can you recommend some diff file viewers that are compatible with Windows 2000 and/or XP (specifically one with support for viewing multiple files)?

@XPerceniol?

W... What happened? Why are you sad?

I hope you're doing better than I am

I'll be looking at Steam. I'll hope to at least make something work after the last client, but seeing as how everything in modern Steam is a webview of sorts it's probably going to be impossible unless it still just works with the old CEF.

to install .NET 4.8 on Win8.0 and their .net 4.8 updates, look in this thread from another forum and here too (need to be a member there to view links) that is not the case as Mozilla recently decided to extend Win7/8.x support and the upcoming Firefox ESR 115 release WILL support those versions until late 2024. not necessarily true for 8.1 w/out the bypass tool it's not like with newer server 2012 rtm updates on win8.0; not quite the same as newer server 2012 r2 updates on win8.1 what has worked with win8.0 doesn't quite work the same with win8.1, Jody yup. fails with "we couldn't complete the updates undoing changes" error message part way. conducting my own tests with the Feb. 2023 & Mar. 2023 w8.1 embedded / server 2012 r2 updates, they fail to install on normal win8.1 editions including win8.1 core/home edition, thus agreeing with Jaguarek62's assessment. that's why that bypass tool is needed to fully install Feb. 2023 & newer updates for "client" Win8.1 edition OSes (bypass not needed for win8.1 embedded industry edition yet as that one gets support until July 2023) I know because I use a win8.1 core/home os on my father's old 2013 Toshiba satellite c55a laptop on a backup hard drive

... Like I said: "We" have built resilient communities here at MSFN, consisting of people on, so called, "legacy" Windows OSes their vendor no longer supports (or, even tries to sabotage nowadays ), but outside of such communities hostility, FUD, fake facts, etc. is the rule ... That's why I find it useless now in 2023 to "argue" with app authors about extending/continuing their support on older OSes; I did do it in the first years after Vista's EoS (2017); even at that time, most of them (especially on GitHub) were under a firm conviction my Vista laptop had already become part of the botnet... And, as you said, there's no way you could talk them out of such convictions... Alas, we have to help each other now ...

Call it a case of misunderstanding. Despite Iron's about page showing that it was updated and a current date stamp in the settings, the version was not in fact updating. It seems that it doesn't update ever or perhaps it didn't because of some setting. I had expected Iron to update the same way Chrome does. Alas, my Iron was at v77 and after updating to v109 the issues I was experiencing have gone away... BUT Ebay still is slower on their newer view than the older view (some pages have it, some don't. I'm talking US Ebay, I have not seen the new mode on international Ebays) but not unusably slow as when on v77.

Hopefully, yup.

... Many thanks for testing this ; so, it proves it can still successfully update its definitions, the same way as on WinXP ... But this finding of yours contradicts with the linked discussion in the MB Support Forum ; not that sterling of a "support", is it? I bet no-one there actually tried that "legacy" 3.5.1 version on either XP/Vista - yet, they were quick to disseminate what they were probably trained to say: "Every WinOS below Win10 is a security menace" (and what I found particularly distasteful was their suggestion below: ; I'm not a native English speaker, but, surely, "by crook" doesn't imply pirated versions, does it? ) ...

@VistaLover Here's a picture of Malwarebytes Legacy 3.5.1.2522 on Vista SP2 x64: As you can see, the update package version is 1.0.29424, which is the latest at the moment.

XP (and Vista) users should really keep an eye on that thread ; things look grim ... The opening post there displays a picture of what Dave described in a previous post here: However, this time the MB staff aren't interested in "resolving it"; according to the reporter (and confirmed by a staff member), Malwarebytes Premium Legacy 3.5.1.2522 can no longer receive def updates under Vista/Win7 - thanks to user feedback in this thread, we do know XP installations still receive these ; but all the MB staff can, apparently, do is endlessly recite ad nauseam the "inherent perils of running Microsoft unsupported Windows versions like XP/Vista ; as per @lmacri's post 3hr ago, MB staff have started wiping out Forum references to "Malwarebytes support for legacy Windows XP and Vista Operating Systems"; what comes next ? OT: @mina7601; Since you seem to have a Vista SP2 VM installed, could you be so kind as to try MB Legacy 3.5.1.2522 there and check whether its defs can be updated? Thanks in advance ...

I tried running this, works just as described. But, I noticed that this version of office is a beta version. This is version 14.0.4730.1007, where the RTM is 14.0.4760, and build 4734 is the OEM distributed version that is pretty easy to obtain. This portable version is packaged with Thinapp, I guess that if we come up with a solution to either extract the thinapp to make it install / get a 14.0.4730.1007 installer, it would run properly.. Edit : The file name to hunt for is "14.0.4730.1007_Select_volume_ship_x86_en-us.rar". (Can be found from https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11012 and some others)

I got a copy of the 111 builds, but never got a chance to grab the 112 build before it was removed.

Probably the last 100% working stable version at this point is 110. On the other hand, from the "dev/canary" channel I managed to run probably build 5545 as the last one with the help of a user who unfortunately "escaped" from the forum....

That's my screenshot actually Nonetheless, 2019 was extremely unstable

Is it true that a 2018 version of Kaspersky is the only antivirus known to work with this extended kernel? If not, please post details here or reply to: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184427-best-windows-vista-antivirus-with-the-extended-kernel/

I reviewed the entire thread without noticing any mention of antivirus software. A separate thread might be warranted whenever Microsoft stops providing definitions for Security Essentials. (I presume that many are still using MSE.) Meanwhile: Avira officially ended support for Windows 7 and 8.1 on December 31, 2021, yet still has a Windows 7 download page that would presumably give you a legacy version. Bitdefender says they will continue support until January 14, 2024. Emsisoft no longer supports new installations on Windows 7 or 8.1. ESET ended support for Windows 7 and 8.1 after Version 16.0 (a little surprising since ESET supported Vista longer than most non-Chinese AV vendors). McAfee ended support for Windows 7 and 8.0 May 4, 2021, but still supports 8.1 AFAIK. Sophos sells Extended Support licenses for Windows 7 and 2008 R2.

Something else is definitely needed, although I’m surprised if you can’t turn on real-time protection even with sufficiently old definitions installed. I’m not sure what to suggest, as I think some of the legacy antivirus products required XP SP3 x86, but there has been a lot of discussion in another thread: https://msfn.org/board/topic/177099-which-antiviruses-are-known-for-a-fact-to-be-working-on-xp-sp3-as-of-2019/

I was attached to Malwarebytes Free 2.2.1, but definition updates ended nearly a year ago so there is no point in reminiscing about versions older than 3.5.1 (which is nearly 5 years old itself). Malwarebytes Free was a very good PUP removal tool, but - unlike Kaspersky Free or Avast Free - it was simply not an antivirus. I never paid for Malwarebytes Premium because better antivirus solutions were available for free, but I still wonder if it works with the extended kernel.

Have you actually used Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1 on Vista with extended kernel? (Of course it is well-known to have supported vanilla Vista.) Malwarebytes Free is not a real-time antivirus, but even that would be interesting to hear about - particularly since you would have to use the same installer IIRC.