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Welcome back, @cmccaff1! I'm glad you like Windows 10. I started to like Windows 10 beginning version 1903.

Of course, when it comes to browsers, everything is going to be a matter of preference. After a lot of trial and error I've decided to make the leap to Windows 10 (I was testing LTSC 2019 for a while, but as I'm using an old HP S5-1020 I want to see if I will get better performance with LTSB 2015). I have found Chromium, and its related forks, to be absolutely perfect for my needs. Recently I was testing a bleeding-edge version (110) and the last 'official' for Win 7/8.x (109). They seem to run well enough on my PC, but I felt like I could get better performance. With the latest version as of now being 110, I've decided to go back to 90, and my new personal rule (which should also apply just fine for users of other browsers) is to keep track of whatever the current stable version is and, if possible, stay 20 versions behind it. This should strike a good balance between performance on older hardware and compatibility with the modern Web. I learned a long time ago that you don't need the most bleeding-edge version of any browser to be able to get by on the Internet, but if a browsing engine is too old you will run into problems sooner or later. For the longest time I used XP, but had to make the switch when I found that some 'essential' sites would no longer work properly in 360 v13.5, Mypal68 or the latest Serpent. Originally the plan was to switch to 7, which I have tested with good results, but it seems almost anything that can run 7 will run 10 and in all its releases is much more future-proof. Right now my plan is to slowly work through the LTSB/C releases all the way to IoT LTSC 2021, but if LTSB 2015 is still performing well enough on my PC when extended support ends, I'll probably stick with that for as long as I can, until/unless it starts to run into any major problems.

The next problem we face, is people stealing other peoples software, which was a big problem during the 1980's......I might have been kid but I wish it was like the 1980's still. I miss the early 1990's also. I miss the hair, the legs, the suits, the cars, the buildings, I even miss the Amiga, Atari, Amsterdam. and even when the Mac we fun to use. I miss paint programs, I miss the way things made sense, instead of now. I miss it so much. I know our medical is high, and our technology is greater for it, but I feel like the world is so disconnected with itself. I am happy for some things but I am sad for others. While I feel sad, it is almost like the world of dumb people keep getting dumber but at the same time they are happy for that stupidity.

You're right! It was Serpent 55 - D'oh!

You're welcome.

Oh, I didn't see that, thanks.

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That is true! Compared to 10, it would definitely be a baby, but I can imagine many 11 users are happy with it by this point. I'm just a bit reluctant to make the jump, not just because my PC falls a little bit short of the requirements but because it isn't very mature yet. I recall that Windows 10, over the first few years, still had its fair share of random crashes and major bugs. By the time LTSC 2019 came out a lot of that had been ironed out, and though there are still some strange quirks and minor bugs it's a great and stable OS all the way around. With my '20 versions' rule (I'm still on Chromium 90--the latest is 110), I could still be quite comfortably on Windows 7, but 10 is more future proof (and LTSC brings it very close to 7, by allowing you to disable most 'extras' in the initial install and with all future updates being strictly security-based; its performance is also a bit closer to 7 than 'regular' 10, at least in my experiences). By the time I have to even think about moving to 11, it'll probably be even more stable than 10 is now!

Windows 11 has been released on October 5, 2021 (officially October 4), though.

That seems to be a very good range for performance, especially on older PCs. Just to have everything perfectly 'round' I decided to go back and try Chromium 90 (Hibbiki has a build for that one), and it works GREAT. Actually, I'm writing this from Chromium 90. Now that I think about it, I think you can even go back 20 versions and still get good results. Remembering old experiences with Firefox before I started to focus more on Chromium-based browsers, I remember that back when 30 & 31ESR were still current most sites still worked in 10ESR. When 52ESR was current most sites still worked in 31ESR & 32. It seems that going back 20 versions may actually be the ultimate performance/compatibility compromise: you are now at a point where many 'fancy' websites will start to run into problems, but your version is still recent enough that over 95% of sites will still work as things now stand. And you can use the 'jump up five versions' trick if any 'critical' sites are not working properly, and keep jumping up until they do. Having 95% of today's Web working is a high enough percentage for me--to me, it's not worth having the latest, even if it does work, to get that 100% compatibility when you will lose so much in performance. It's better to slowly work your way towards these newer versions...it can't be avoided that upgrading is inevitable, but giving yourself 20 versions' worth of leeway gives you more room to work with, and many more years of good and fast Web browsing. For anyone using a pre-10 version of Windows, the '20 versions' rule will guarantee them at least two more years of excellent web browsing...they would not have to look at upgrading to 10 until version 130 is the current stable release.

I may have to try that one! I'm honestly open to trying all the different builds of 10 on an experimental basis...I don't think you can go wrong with any of them, though I'm sure you will hit less bugs after a certain point (though new ones will be created that may not have been there earlier). For now, I've settled on LTSC 2019, though I was briefly considering LTSB 2015. I am sure both will run fine on my hardware, but it's hard to argue with extended support until January 2029, and the few quirks/bugs I've found aren't an issue. 10 has a little bit of a learning curve connected to it, and the performance isn't quite what I was getting with XP and 7 (even with a fair number of tweaks), but 10's kernel absolutely blows anything before it out of the water. Aside from the many years of extended support that still remain, on capable hardware 10 smokes everything (though XP & 7 should run faster than 10 on older hardware). I anticipate that when the time comes that we all have to look at using 11, spoofing the version string should get most 'incompatible' software running perfectly fine on 10. I plan to keep using 10 until I can't use it anymore. I see there's a project called 'Tiny11' in the works, but I'm going to wait for that to get mature, and to see what else is available by then. 11 is still a baby--10 has gone from being a baby to a fairly mature OS by now. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was in the early days. I think it will be remembered almost as fondly as XP and 7 when it's all said and done...history will paint it in a better light.

I seem to recall that either 92, 94, 96, or 97 was my "fastest", but cannot recall offhand.

I'm not 100% tied to GDIChromium at this stage (for Win7 it's a must but GDI vs DirectWrite isn't as big of a concern for me on Win10). Hibbiki is a new one I've not heard of. I balance across four different Win10 machines and primarily use https://browserbench.org/Speedometer2.1/ and run with the browser that all four computers score the highest average. So it's not always the "fastest" for one of the four, but that's the balancing act.

I'll have to try that version out...it's amazing how many Chromium forks there are. Being on Windows 10 makes it possible to run just about everything, and staying behind the latest version works out in multiple ways (better performance and the knowledge that what you're using will run well in an earlier OS too, at least until we get to version 130 and 20 versions behind that is now 110). I'm glad GDIChromium works well for you--if it gets your stamp of approval then I have no doubt it'll be more than enough for me! Ungoogled Chromium does work well, and I can see myself tinkering with it and other forks, but I've actually decided to switch to Hibbiki's Chromium x64 builds...and to amend what I mentioned earlier, I think the best rule is actually to stay, as much as possible without fail, 20 versions behind the newest stable release. (This reply was sent from Chromium 95, which works great on my PC, as does 90!) If you find a site is having issues, then you can jump up 5 versions and see if that fixes it. If it's still not fixed, jump up 5 more versions. This rule tends to work well not only with browsers but with most software, though not everything is updated on the same time table.

111.0.5535 works just great on Win 7x64! The only thing I noticed it can't draw the top border in windowed mode.

Product keys being put into the BIOS only started with Windows 8. Named OEM Vista install suppresses activation, so it would not ask you for a product key (or you could skip it) when installing with the OEM's recovery media and it will show activated. MS changed named OEM COA with Windows 8 to not have a product key on it, whereas 7, Vista and XP still did even though they were not used. NOTE: Named OEM COA is the type of COA that has the manufacturer/OEM's name printed on it.

My Win10-preferred is GDIChromium v96. I run LTSB 2016 at home and the work computer says "Windows 10 OSD combined 2102" in Device spec's and "Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2" in Windows spec's. OS Build here at work says "19042.2486". I also PREFER to be SEVERAL versions below "bleeding-edge". I run GDIChromium v96 both here at work and at home. Partly due to Ungoogled Chromium will not stream one of my Live TV web sites at work and I prefer to use the same profile on all computers, be it work or home or garage.

Here is what is happening. This .css file is where it starts -- https://www.skyrc.com/catalog/view/javascript/font/caiseicon/iconfont.css That .css file is using a font declaration in a manner I've not seen before (does't mean it's not common, only means I've not seen "woff2" fonts defined this way). Break this ONE woff2 font and leave all other "remote" fonts intact and this web site works in 360Chrome v13.5 build 1030 on XP. This is how that one .css file is defining the one woff2 font causing the issue - @font-face { font-family: "caise"; /* Project id 3673278 */ /* Color fonts */ src: url('data:application/x-font-woff2;charset=utf-8;base64,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There are two main ways to obtain it that I am aware of. If you are talking about "just getting the OS" meaning it is installed onto a PC, then the license cost is less than $200 plus whatever the price of the computer you get it on. You do not get recovery media in this way and you also do not get the product key. The way to get the installation media is a bit different. Microsoft does not sell one-off media + COA for IOT Enterprise SKUs. You have to buy the "kit" from an Embedded Partner. The kit is the DVD9 Master and support documentation and I'm thinking that comes to somewhere in four figure territory. The product keys are a separate cost and come in minimum quantities in the tens of thousands.

Been a while since I posted here! Sorry to bump the topic, but I find it very interesting. It took a bit of trial and error, and a lot of consideration, but after giving it thought I decided to migrate to Windows 10 LTSC 2019. So far I can't say I have any complaints. It is definitely a transition compared to XP and 7, which I became used to and was able to learn the ins and outs of, but I've had some experience working with Windows 10 before, and have figured out to a certain extent how everything works. The only big interface modification I had to make was installing Classic Shell...I can live with everything else in terms of how it looks and sounds. I don't want to make it feel like XP or 7, because I honestly like the Win10 look. I've loved it in every single version I've tried. It is smooth, refined, and still feels refreshingly modern compared to every version of Windows that came before. I definitely miss the performance of XP and 7, and wish everyone well who is still trying to keep those OSes alive. The big reason I went to 10 is because I'm no longer bottlenecked by the OS in terms of how many programs I'll be able to run. I appreciate the LTSC versions in particular for being more focused on security and stability, and having less bloat than regular 10. LTSC 2019 seems to be a good 'future-proof' option, with extended support up to January 2029. Aside from the really old/esoteric stuff, a good number of the programs I used in XP and 7 still run fine in 10. It also supports all the drivers on my 'daily driver' out of the box--I only had to update the card reader, ethernet and sound drivers. (For what it's worth, LTSC 2019 seems to be the last LTSC/LTSB version that can be properly burned onto a classic single-layer DVD in both 32-bit and 64-bit releases; 32-bit LTSC 2021 can also be burned to single layer DVDs, but goes out of extended support before LTSC 2019 does, so the older release is the winner. Of course, I'm not counting any unofficial/modified versions that trim the excess.) I might transition to IoT LTSC 2021 when LTSC 2019 goes out of support, but it'll be quite a few years before that even becomes an issue (and even then it would simply be a matter of buying a pack of dual-layer DVDs, if you're like me and you prefer the nostalgia factor of old-school optical media). Honestly, I think I could be happy with any version of Win10, once it is properly tweaked. Even when Windows 10 starts going out of support, the 'final' forms of each release, with all updates applied, from the early 2015 releases to the latest ones, should serve users admirably for years to come. If you are careful with your option selection on an initial installation, many of the things people complain about are avoidable or can become non-factors. I'm happily using Ungoogled Chromium and plan to stick with it as my main browser for the foreseeable future, but I am definitely open to trying other browsers out. Win10 gives you a lot of room to experiment, as almost everything you can find still targets it (though Firefox still supports Windows 7 for the moment, which is absolutely amazing). Unless I find myself using a PC that is prohibitively ill-equipped to handle 10 (and even then, lite versions may be an option before I absolutely have to go back to XP or 7) I plan to stay on Windows 10 as long as I possibly can. It ain't perfect but it's close enough.

Thanks for sharing that story, Tony! We still miss him daily around here as well. Hopefully he's in a better place and still suffering from the desire to know more!

If you ever say "Oh God or my God" around Rudy he always had a sense of humor and respond "YES". Always made me smile when pulls that line. Im his step son Tony and there is not a day goes by I dont think about him in someway or thought. Im 51 and I knew Rudy since a child at around 7 or 8. Rudy's grave is in Greenfield Cemetery in Uniondale NY. Thank you for your kind words and your concern about my dad I never realized he had many friends in this community, and now I understand who he might have been on the phone with when I catch him on the phone speaking throughout the years or hear the telephone ringing. Must have been one of you guys here.

Yes, WiseVector StopX require SSE2 (tested on a computer with a Duron 1,6 Ghz last year). Regards I think whether WiseVector StopX requires SSE2 or not is no longer important. It has been abandoned by the developers. Their interests now seem to be focused on an enterprise version to make money.

With the Vista extended kernel, I have managed to get up to 111.0.5520 working with sandbox, and up to about 111.0.5550 without sandbox. However there is some problem with shared memory brokering that has broken it in both cases. Couldn't map an API change to it yet, as this code is well abstracted from the win32 API.

ie 6.05 for XP works ok

I might update my Firefox 96.0.3 to the latest 109.0, this version changed font rendering to be more consistent with system ClearType settings, like the old versions did and Pale Moon, SeaMonkey and other forks have done for the long time. Will have to look into updating my mods 'cause the rest of the browser looks all wrong! That's why I hate updating that sort of software 'cause customizations break all the time and can't be bothered with constant hassle of keeping up with "the latest and greatest". https://i.redd.it/gt4oiy8byvx61.jpg Aaanyway... Firefox 96.0.3 Firefox 109.0 I still have Edge 94 installed for reference, but continue to despise the way Chromium's engine renders fonts on Windows and they still don't look right to my eyes, even with contrast altering extensions or the enhance contrast flag, I get slight pain in my eyes while reading. Seems that change with font rendering in Firefox may not last because most people just want another Chrome clone...https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/10ed7o2/firefox_1090_released/ Speaking of fonts, there's a mod for older Windows 10 (and 11 with old taskbar) to have weather widget in the taskbar (ExplorerPatcher), which uses Edge WebView2. The fonts' blurriness make it stand-out in a bad way. https://i.imgur.com/sUCxEHF.png Will continue to use Pale Moon on the somewhat sane (read compatible) websites, which are fortunately still the most that I visit. There's not much on the modern internet for me anyway.

I'll be testing with UBO when I get home. When I last used UBO, I was thoroughly UNIMPRESSED relative to uMatrix. That MAY have changed.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm kind of not a fan of resorting to "hundreds" of flags (no, I didn't count how MASSIVE that list is, but it is GIGANTIC, and I will check via that list eventually). My general philosophy is to find the "best performing" in a 'default state'. Generally speaking, the fastest in "default" will also be the fastest in other configurations, provided the same configurations are being compared to each other. I applaud the user-base and we all have our own preferences, but I myself prefer my Proxomitron and uMatrix setup and will "never" resort to anything UBO. So far, my preference is leaning towards GDIChromium v96 x86 (even on x64 OS). There are "newer" versions of GDIChromium, but I do not subscribe to always using the "newest" possible (I think we only shoot ourselves in our own foot when we fall prey to always wanting "newer"). I also like X-Chromium v105 x86 but it removes the ability to disable the "side bar" which I am NOT a fan of that added "clutter" in the toolbar. I may be able to disable/remove that "clutter" once I start modding X-Chromium. So far, I have opted to use GDIChromium but use it inside X-Chromium's "loader" (which may also be usable for 360Chrome, as far as that goes, the two loaders are very similar [360Chrome's is "smaller"]). The GDI is not that big of a deal-maker/deal-breaker for me on Win10 - but GDI is a MUST for me on Win7 (which I rarely ever use nowadays anyway). Either way, my next step is to "ungoogle" GDIChromium v96 and X-Chromium v105. Odds are very high at this point that v96 will serve me well for the next couple of years before web sites start telling me to start using something "newer". Technically, NONE of my web sites require anything "newer" than v86 - but there are much "faster" alternatives for Win10 without resorting to "cutting edge new".

I would have to concur :D TY!

I miss the good things of childhood, and there were some things that were better then, but a lot only looks better because I was too naive to understand what was bad. Everything has its benefits and losses. If you spend life looking at the rear view mirror, you'll find yourself missing everything that lies ahead (and might get in a fender bender).

I also miss the good old days - I was never tied to a computer back then - heck, I didn't even have a cell phone until the mid 90s. I do think it sad that the younger generation is tied so heavily to their devices and are (perhaps) lacking social interaction in real life apart from virtual life.

i miss the good old days of windows back in the time that windows xp was just released and vista was soon to be release back in a time that microsoft cared about its users and made good products but have now turn into a we need your money or you dont get updates thing i miss it

It has nothing to do with being older, it is just logic of how things are. People do not pay for efermiral data, high end business users do not, children wanting to breifly listen to music, or old people wanting to watch Netflix. Then "hitting on girls" and "flirting" is replaced by the computer. It is sooo frickin boring to see people on the internet all day sending messages threw facebook, instead of making it with somebody who is right next to you. People just spend all day talking on the phone, argueing, and being annoyed for no reason at all. Like the way me and my parents would argue and then we stop, but with the celluar phone it is like the same conversation can go on for ages. When do these people work??? With all of these distractions, people are calling it another form of ADD, while I see it for what it is. People who are not usted to a product and has no self control. Like cable televsion, air conditioning, cars ( yes cars ), and even music. Right now thanks to the internet everybody is sooooo **** direct and keep quoting the **** Wikipedia, which is not real data for the most part. Like when you look up WIkipedia while the data is great it is boring. I just wish that all electricity would go away and we would go back to wind-up devices and telegraph machines.

The good ole' days when the laundry was done without lifting a hand or food miraculously appeared in the refrigerator. I remember that place, it is called adolescent-ville, it sounds like you may have departed - as my dad once said to me, "son, welcome to adulthood, been waiting for you." Let me guess, I bet I know what category you don't put yourself