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Of course, when it comes to browsers, everything is going to be a matter of preference. After a lot of trial and error I've decided to make the leap to Windows 10 (I was testing LTSC 2019 for a while, but as I'm using an old HP S5-1020 I want to see if I will get better performance with LTSB 2015). I have found Chromium, and its related forks, to be absolutely perfect for my needs. Recently I was testing a bleeding-edge version (110) and the last 'official' for Win 7/8.x (109). They seem to run well enough on my PC, but I felt like I could get better performance. With the latest version as of now being 110, I've decided to go back to 90, and my new personal rule (which should also apply just fine for users of other browsers) is to keep track of whatever the current stable version is and, if possible, stay 20 versions behind it. This should strike a good balance between performance on older hardware and compatibility with the modern Web. I learned a long time ago that you don't need the most bleeding-edge version of any browser to be able to get by on the Internet, but if a browsing engine is too old you will run into problems sooner or later. For the longest time I used XP, but had to make the switch when I found that some 'essential' sites would no longer work properly in 360 v13.5, Mypal68 or the latest Serpent. Originally the plan was to switch to 7, which I have tested with good results, but it seems almost anything that can run 7 will run 10 and in all its releases is much more future-proof. Right now my plan is to slowly work through the LTSB/C releases all the way to IoT LTSC 2021, but if LTSB 2015 is still performing well enough on my PC when extended support ends, I'll probably stick with that for as long as I can, until/unless it starts to run into any major problems.

The next problem we face, is people stealing other peoples software, which was a big problem during the 1980's......I might have been kid but I wish it was like the 1980's still. I miss the early 1990's also. I miss the hair, the legs, the suits, the cars, the buildings, I even miss the Amiga, Atari, Amsterdam. and even when the Mac we fun to use. I miss paint programs, I miss the way things made sense, instead of now. I miss it so much. I know our medical is high, and our technology is greater for it, but I feel like the world is so disconnected with itself. I am happy for some things but I am sad for others. While I feel sad, it is almost like the world of dumb people keep getting dumber but at the same time they are happy for that stupidity.

That seems to be a very good range for performance, especially on older PCs. Just to have everything perfectly 'round' I decided to go back and try Chromium 90 (Hibbiki has a build for that one), and it works GREAT. Actually, I'm writing this from Chromium 90. Now that I think about it, I think you can even go back 20 versions and still get good results. Remembering old experiences with Firefox before I started to focus more on Chromium-based browsers, I remember that back when 30 & 31ESR were still current most sites still worked in 10ESR. When 52ESR was current most sites still worked in 31ESR & 32. It seems that going back 20 versions may actually be the ultimate performance/compatibility compromise: you are now at a point where many 'fancy' websites will start to run into problems, but your version is still recent enough that over 95% of sites will still work as things now stand. And you can use the 'jump up five versions' trick if any 'critical' sites are not working properly, and keep jumping up until they do. Having 95% of today's Web working is a high enough percentage for me--to me, it's not worth having the latest, even if it does work, to get that 100% compatibility when you will lose so much in performance. It's better to slowly work your way towards these newer versions...it can't be avoided that upgrading is inevitable, but giving yourself 20 versions' worth of leeway gives you more room to work with, and many more years of good and fast Web browsing. For anyone using a pre-10 version of Windows, the '20 versions' rule will guarantee them at least two more years of excellent web browsing...they would not have to look at upgrading to 10 until version 130 is the current stable release.

I seem to recall that either 92, 94, 96, or 97 was my "fastest", but cannot recall offhand.

I'm not 100% tied to GDIChromium at this stage (for Win7 it's a must but GDI vs DirectWrite isn't as big of a concern for me on Win10). Hibbiki is a new one I've not heard of. I balance across four different Win10 machines and primarily use https://browserbench.org/Speedometer2.1/ and run with the browser that all four computers score the highest average. So it's not always the "fastest" for one of the four, but that's the balancing act.

I'll have to try that version out...it's amazing how many Chromium forks there are. Being on Windows 10 makes it possible to run just about everything, and staying behind the latest version works out in multiple ways (better performance and the knowledge that what you're using will run well in an earlier OS too, at least until we get to version 130 and 20 versions behind that is now 110). I'm glad GDIChromium works well for you--if it gets your stamp of approval then I have no doubt it'll be more than enough for me! Ungoogled Chromium does work well, and I can see myself tinkering with it and other forks, but I've actually decided to switch to Hibbiki's Chromium x64 builds...and to amend what I mentioned earlier, I think the best rule is actually to stay, as much as possible without fail, 20 versions behind the newest stable release. (This reply was sent from Chromium 95, which works great on my PC, as does 90!) If you find a site is having issues, then you can jump up 5 versions and see if that fixes it. If it's still not fixed, jump up 5 more versions. This rule tends to work well not only with browsers but with most software, though not everything is updated on the same time table.

111.0.5535 works just great on Win 7x64! The only thing I noticed it can't draw the top border in windowed mode.

Product keys being put into the BIOS only started with Windows 8. Named OEM Vista install suppresses activation, so it would not ask you for a product key (or you could skip it) when installing with the OEM's recovery media and it will show activated. MS changed named OEM COA with Windows 8 to not have a product key on it, whereas 7, Vista and XP still did even though they were not used. NOTE: Named OEM COA is the type of COA that has the manufacturer/OEM's name printed on it.

My Win10-preferred is GDIChromium v96. I run LTSB 2016 at home and the work computer says "Windows 10 OSD combined 2102" in Device spec's and "Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2" in Windows spec's. OS Build here at work says "19042.2486". I also PREFER to be SEVERAL versions below "bleeding-edge". I run GDIChromium v96 both here at work and at home. Partly due to Ungoogled Chromium will not stream one of my Live TV web sites at work and I prefer to use the same profile on all computers, be it work or home or garage.

Here is what is happening. This .css file is where it starts -- https://www.skyrc.com/catalog/view/javascript/font/caiseicon/iconfont.css That .css file is using a font declaration in a manner I've not seen before (does't mean it's not common, only means I've not seen "woff2" fonts defined this way). Break this ONE woff2 font and leave all other "remote" fonts intact and this web site works in 360Chrome v13.5 build 1030 on XP. This is how that one .css file is defining the one woff2 font causing the issue - @font-face { font-family: "caise"; /* Project id 3673278 */ /* Color fonts */ src: url('data:application/x-font-woff2;charset=utf-8;base64,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format('woff2'), url('iconfont.woff?t=1675305988561') format('woff'), url('iconfont.ttf?t=1675305988561') format('truetype'); }

There are two main ways to obtain it that I am aware of. If you are talking about "just getting the OS" meaning it is installed onto a PC, then the license cost is less than $200 plus whatever the price of the computer you get it on. You do not get recovery media in this way and you also do not get the product key. The way to get the installation media is a bit different. Microsoft does not sell one-off media + COA for IOT Enterprise SKUs. You have to buy the "kit" from an Embedded Partner. The kit is the DVD9 Master and support documentation and I'm thinking that comes to somewhere in four figure territory. The product keys are a separate cost and come in minimum quantities in the tens of thousands.

Thanks for sharing that story, Tony! We still miss him daily around here as well. Hopefully he's in a better place and still suffering from the desire to know more!

If you ever say "Oh God or my God" around Rudy he always had a sense of humor and respond "YES". Always made me smile when pulls that line. Im his step son Tony and there is not a day goes by I dont think about him in someway or thought. Im 51 and I knew Rudy since a child at around 7 or 8. Rudy's grave is in Greenfield Cemetery in Uniondale NY. Thank you for your kind words and your concern about my dad I never realized he had many friends in this community, and now I understand who he might have been on the phone with when I catch him on the phone speaking throughout the years or hear the telephone ringing. Must have been one of you guys here.

Yes, WiseVector StopX require SSE2 (tested on a computer with a Duron 1,6 Ghz last year). Regards I think whether WiseVector StopX requires SSE2 or not is no longer important. It has been abandoned by the developers. Their interests now seem to be focused on an enterprise version to make money.

With the Vista extended kernel, I have managed to get up to 111.0.5520 working with sandbox, and up to about 111.0.5550 without sandbox. However there is some problem with shared memory brokering that has broken it in both cases. Couldn't map an API change to it yet, as this code is well abstracted from the win32 API.

ie 6.05 for XP works ok

I might update my Firefox 96.0.3 to the latest 109.0, this version changed font rendering to be more consistent with system ClearType settings, like the old versions did and Pale Moon, SeaMonkey and other forks have done for the long time. Will have to look into updating my mods 'cause the rest of the browser looks all wrong! That's why I hate updating that sort of software 'cause customizations break all the time and can't be bothered with constant hassle of keeping up with "the latest and greatest". https://i.redd.it/gt4oiy8byvx61.jpg Aaanyway... Firefox 96.0.3 Firefox 109.0 I still have Edge 94 installed for reference, but continue to despise the way Chromium's engine renders fonts on Windows and they still don't look right to my eyes, even with contrast altering extensions or the enhance contrast flag, I get slight pain in my eyes while reading. Seems that change with font rendering in Firefox may not last because most people just want another Chrome clone...https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/10ed7o2/firefox_1090_released/ Speaking of fonts, there's a mod for older Windows 10 (and 11 with old taskbar) to have weather widget in the taskbar (ExplorerPatcher), which uses Edge WebView2. The fonts' blurriness make it stand-out in a bad way. https://i.imgur.com/sUCxEHF.png Will continue to use Pale Moon on the somewhat sane (read compatible) websites, which are fortunately still the most that I visit. There's not much on the modern internet for me anyway.

I'll be testing with UBO when I get home. When I last used UBO, I was thoroughly UNIMPRESSED relative to uMatrix. That MAY have changed.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm kind of not a fan of resorting to "hundreds" of flags (no, I didn't count how MASSIVE that list is, but it is GIGANTIC, and I will check via that list eventually). My general philosophy is to find the "best performing" in a 'default state'. Generally speaking, the fastest in "default" will also be the fastest in other configurations, provided the same configurations are being compared to each other. I applaud the user-base and we all have our own preferences, but I myself prefer my Proxomitron and uMatrix setup and will "never" resort to anything UBO. So far, my preference is leaning towards GDIChromium v96 x86 (even on x64 OS). There are "newer" versions of GDIChromium, but I do not subscribe to always using the "newest" possible (I think we only shoot ourselves in our own foot when we fall prey to always wanting "newer"). I also like X-Chromium v105 x86 but it removes the ability to disable the "side bar" which I am NOT a fan of that added "clutter" in the toolbar. I may be able to disable/remove that "clutter" once I start modding X-Chromium. So far, I have opted to use GDIChromium but use it inside X-Chromium's "loader" (which may also be usable for 360Chrome, as far as that goes, the two loaders are very similar [360Chrome's is "smaller"]). The GDI is not that big of a deal-maker/deal-breaker for me on Win10 - but GDI is a MUST for me on Win7 (which I rarely ever use nowadays anyway). Either way, my next step is to "ungoogle" GDIChromium v96 and X-Chromium v105. Odds are very high at this point that v96 will serve me well for the next couple of years before web sites start telling me to start using something "newer". Technically, NONE of my web sites require anything "newer" than v86 - but there are much "faster" alternatives for Win10 without resorting to "cutting edge new".

I would have to concur :D TY!

I miss the good things of childhood, and there were some things that were better then, but a lot only looks better because I was too naive to understand what was bad. Everything has its benefits and losses. If you spend life looking at the rear view mirror, you'll find yourself missing everything that lies ahead (and might get in a fender bender).

I also miss the good old days - I was never tied to a computer back then - heck, I didn't even have a cell phone until the mid 90s. I do think it sad that the younger generation is tied so heavily to their devices and are (perhaps) lacking social interaction in real life apart from virtual life.

It has nothing to do with being older, it is just logic of how things are. People do not pay for efermiral data, high end business users do not, children wanting to breifly listen to music, or old people wanting to watch Netflix. Then "hitting on girls" and "flirting" is replaced by the computer. It is sooo frickin boring to see people on the internet all day sending messages threw facebook, instead of making it with somebody who is right next to you. People just spend all day talking on the phone, argueing, and being annoyed for no reason at all. Like the way me and my parents would argue and then we stop, but with the celluar phone it is like the same conversation can go on for ages. When do these people work??? With all of these distractions, people are calling it another form of ADD, while I see it for what it is. People who are not usted to a product and has no self control. Like cable televsion, air conditioning, cars ( yes cars ), and even music. Right now thanks to the internet everybody is sooooo **** direct and keep quoting the **** Wikipedia, which is not real data for the most part. Like when you look up WIkipedia while the data is great it is boring. I just wish that all electricity would go away and we would go back to wind-up devices and telegraph machines.

The good ole' days when the laundry was done without lifting a hand or food miraculously appeared in the refrigerator. I remember that place, it is called adolescent-ville, it sounds like you may have departed - as my dad once said to me, "son, welcome to adulthood, been waiting for you." Let me guess, I bet I know what category you don't put yourself