Supermium

[ED_Sln]

13 hours ago, D.Draker said:

Fellas, need your assistance, can't choose either "CPU support" or any other from that row.

Downloaded the list of supported CPUs, you can download the Excel spreadsheet there. https://www.upload.ee/files/17540532/H110MHV3__CPU.zip.html

[j7n]

On 12/16/2024 at 10:49 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I have an immense dislike for the "modern GUI".

Supermium is already modern. All pages are white as a hospital wall and completely flat. Preferences are an unorganized long list. Menus compacted under a master hamburger button. What's even more modern than this?

[D.Draker]

20 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

Downloaded the list of supported CPUs, you can download the Excel spreadsheet there. https://www.upload.ee/files/17540532/H110MHV3__CPU.zip.html

Thank you, I was trying to get the BIOS, and the main reason I wrote here, I wanted to find out whether it's only Supermium's fault.

[VistaLover]

23 hours ago, D.Draker said:

can't choose either "CPU support" or any other from that row.

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/eol/introduction.php?S_ID=832

23 hours ago, D.Draker said:

the fonts are weird.

FWIW, that site loads and behaves as expected here: 

Latest Sm-v126-r6_x86, "dirty" profile with several extensions and "chrome://flags" customisations; OS is Vista SP2 32-bit...

[VistaLover]

13 hours ago, j7n said:

All pages are white as a hospital wall

... If you are annoyed by that, you can always enable Supermium's dark mode, either via a cmdline switch (" --force-dark-mode") or internal flag "chrome://flags/#force-dark-mode" ; dark mode for web content can also be enabled via "chrome://flags/#dark-mode-settings" (Sm-v126-r6) ...

13 hours ago, j7n said:

and completely flat.

... Well, you can blame Microsoft for that, since they introduced "completely flat" with Win8 and later OSes; browser vendors had to follow and make their (browser) GUI blend with/appear native to the OS...

13 hours ago, j7n said:

Preferences are an unorganized long list.

... When I load "chrome://settings/", I do see a left sidebar, where prefs are divided into 13+ sub-tabs, so I'd say they're "organised in some way"  ; the prefs that do stand out/are easily discoverable are the ones Google deemed to be useful to the "average" Chrome user (i.e. the "masses", usually disinterested in even modifying the defaults ); settings an "advanced" Chrome user (like the MSFN members here  ) would like to change are, sadly, mostly hidden behind many clicks and submenus  ...

 If, OTOH, you're actually meaning "chrome://flags/" (aka "experiments"), then these are not supposed to be touched by "average Joe", they're akin to Mozilla's "about:config" (not to be touched, either), also presented in the form of a long list...

13 hours ago, j7n said:

Menus compacted under a master hamburger button. What's even more modern than this?

This has been a standard Chromium feature for more years than I care to remember , even emulated by Mozilla in the Australis GUI/framework (first in Fx29, released on April 29, 2014, more than 10yrs ago), so not modern at all; it's been inherited (from Australis) in Serpent 52/55, does that make them "modern GUI", too ?  You're simply being accustomed to the pre-Australis GUI of New Moon 28 (GUI of Fx24esr, released back on September 17, 2013), which is considered "legacy"...

13 hours ago, j7n said:

What's even more modern than this?

If you're in for a (nasty) surprise, try enabling Chrome Refresh 2023  flags in Supermium 124/126 ... In any case, there exist several "classic" flags in Supermium that restore some parts of the older Chrome GUI (e.g. trapezoidal tabs, rectangular omnibox, etc.) ...

At the end of the day, and this is just me, I prefer a (modern) browser that can properly render the sites that are meaningful for me (e.g. GitHub) to a "beautiful", customisable, GUI of a browser that can properly render only the MSFN and Pale Moon forums (exaggerating here, but you get my drift  ) ...

Happy Holidays  !

Edited December 21, 2024 by VistaLover

[D.Draker]

17 hours ago, VistaLover said:

FWIW, that site loads and behaves as expected here: 

Latest Sm-v126-r6_x86, "dirty" profile with several extensions and "chrome://flags" customisations; OS is Vista SP2 32-bit...

Thanks for the test, this time even your attachment works. Did you change the hosting?

Probably, the reason is the fonts I don't have.

 

[j7n]

The fonts are webfonts that are downloaded from the server. Everything works without them too.

I don't see that much difference in Chrome Refresh 2023. Some buttons are moved around, most noticeably the menu in the top-left corner. Well, if you enable the dark mode, then the hospital becomes a sooty chimney. Some of those Experiments are what would be normal options in past software. If people don't use then, it's because they can't find them in that list. Programmers have an excuse not to lay out a GUI and revise it to fit in new options. GUI-less software has existed before, all the CLI encoders.

[hidao]

On 12/21/2024 at 1:28 AM, D.Draker said:

Almost forgot, the fonts are weird.

it looks like well for me:

Edited December 23, 2024 by hidao

[UCyborg]

On 12/21/2024 at 6:47 PM, VistaLover said:

... Well, you can blame Microsoft for that, since they introduced "completely flat" with Win8 and later OSes; browser vendors had to follow and make their (browser) GUI blend with/appear native to the OS...

UXP apps adapt to the underlying theme, flat or not. Chrome's flatness is hardcoded.

6 hours ago, hidao said:

it looks like well for me:

These fonts kill my eyes, man...

Edited December 23, 2024 by UCyborg

[NotHereToPlayGames]

8 hours ago, hidao said:

it looks like well for me:

 

2 hours ago, UCyborg said:

These fonts kill my eyes, man...

 

Agreed!  Kills my eyes also.  The fonts are NOT rendered that way for me.  That screencrap's fonts are UGLY!

[VistaLover]

6 hours ago, UCyborg said:

UXP apps adapt to the underlying theme, flat or not. Chrome's flatness is hardcoded.

... (Official) UXP still supports "non-flat" Win7 SP1; I suppose this support also works (somehow) with "bring-aero-back" hacks under Win8+ ; official Chrome has abandoned Win7 SP1, and even Win8/8.1, support (in v110+), so "hardcoded flatness" is ALL they need to target "flat" (by default) Win10/11  ...

[UCyborg]

2 hours ago, VistaLover said:

I suppose this support also works (somehow) with "bring-aero-back" hacks under Win8+ 

Yup, I exploit it regularly. Mozilla threw it out in recent Firefox versions it seems.

And that support goes beyond title bar; context menus, checkboxes, buttons, menus, all these items are covered.

On Win11, even native themes don't bring back window borders. Maybe with WindowBlinds...but c'mon, might as well buy a Chromebook or run ChromeOS Flex. I miss the times when unique aesthetic meant something.

Edited December 23, 2024 by UCyborg

[D.Draker]

On 12/23/2024 at 1:48 AM, hidao said:

it looks like well for me:

Yeah, for you, yes, But I don't understand Chinese (or Korean?). I can't even distinguish those two.

Besides, I heavily damaged one of my eyes, and only one can see somewhat well.

Probably, will have to resort to the operation.

[D.Draker]

17 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

 

 

Agreed!  Kills my eyes also.  The fonts are NOT rendered that way for me.  That screencrap's fonts are UGLY!

It's not the renderring, it's the over-bright videocard, The output RGB signal is too bright, hence washed out.

Google AMD vs Nvidia brightness. Nvidia has gone insane lately. If you compare their card from 2013 with, let's say, 2017-2022, the brightness

increased like 3x times, while AMD was still somewhat fine in that terms up to 2016 or so. Intel is bright, too.

Supermium didn't work out for my needs, and I officially declare - I'm not going back to it, it's so sad, I had high hopes.

Now our path lies in different directions,

 

[D.Draker]

13 hours ago, VistaLover said:

... (Official) UXP still supports "non-flat" Win7 SP1; I suppose this support also works (somehow) with "bring-aero-back" hacks under Win8+ ; official Chrome has abandoned Win7 SP1, and even Win8/8.1, support (in v110+), so "hardcoded flatness" is ALL they need to target "flat" (by default) Win10/11  ...

Explain, what do you mean by non-fat? For me, non-fat was always without SP1. Thanks.