dencorso Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Dave-H said: I agree, there will I'm sure be a dedicated thread or two or more about finally abandoning XP after next April Again? 30 minutes ago, Dave-H said: I personally have no intention of doing so! Neither do I. 4
FranceBB Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, dencorso said: Neither do I. Same here. If Microsoft really delivers TLS1.3 and no major security flaws are found, I have the feeling that we will still be around for quite some time. Not to mention that I am planning to ask Microsoft if they'll keep their Premium Support available after April 2019 and how much it would cost, 'cause if there are still a considerable amount of companies that are paying for it, they'll keep it and I would be more prone to pay for it rather than paying a W10 licence. After all, the US military services - including the navy and the air force - already said that they have specialised hardware and hand-written software running on XP-derivate and they didn't plan to upgrade anytime soon 'cause it would require a complete rewrite of the softwares and further tests before deploying them to the field. Imagine having to rewrite programmes written in C/C++ with the core in x86 ASM for radars, proximity controllers, navigation systems, airflow controllers, pressure stabilisers and many other things... I mean, it's possible and it would probably get some benefits from x64 and modern AVX512 intrinsics, but it would be a pain in the b- uh... I mean a nightmare to re-write, test and support. 1
wyxchari Posted August 26, 2018 Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Dave-H said: I agree, there will I'm sure be a dedicated thread or two or more about finally abandoning XP after next April. I personally have no intention of doing so! I will continue using XP after April 2019 even if I do not have updates. The most important thing for security is the browser and I use one for XP that is updated approximately every month: Mypal 27.9.4 (oldrac, Pale Moon based) https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/releases Other browsers for XP that are updated weekly: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser New Palemoon 27 (New Moon, Feodor2's patches based "Mypal") Also versions SSE or noSSE. KM-Goanna (KMeleon) Firfox 45ESR SSE (Nightly, Mozilla based) Basilik 52/UXP (Serpent, Basilisk based) PM28XP (New Moon, Pale Moon based, pre-release) Edited August 26, 2018 by wyxchari
Mathwiz Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 +1. I see no reason to abandon XP just because updates stop. I didn't abandon XP when they stopped the first time (and I didn't know about POSReady '09)! 4
wyxchari Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) No need to manually install any update. The bug of Microsoft seems to have been fixed and it does not take more than 5 minutes. Edited September 11, 2018 by wyxchari 1
Bersaglio Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Direct links for September 2018 updates: WES09/POSReady 2009 (7 updates, English only), .NET Framework 3.0SP2 - 4.0 (3 updates, international), IE8 cumulative update (English) and Office 2007 compatibility pack update (international) http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4338381-x86-embedded-enu_5e6168475c2fb6f8d78d9b639e6d9802f4b90917.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4457163-x86-embedded-enu_6079ca40413cb788b625ebc6c4b8b802fa3bca57.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4458000-x86-embedded-enu_cd9e39263c1b198b9d0a22529100434d3bd20e90.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4458001-x86-embedded-enu_b6ae71b9b58128d4c6a3221208c1e42d0d434f79.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4458003-x86-embedded-enu_a17d87d408201c9d690d726da04d09f717bc661e.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/09/windowsxp-kb4458006-x86-embedded-enu_e96b950633bde3636cffe6629b30f424acc90daf.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/windowsxp-kb4458318-x86-embedded-enu_d2751e7d4cd301c51c010f1d193d909e64ba8466.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/09/NDP30SP2-KB4457058-x86_BCE0BA79F1762A58060AE546882B4E2A1EDDC4AA.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/09/NDP40-KB4457046-x86_407A3EFB88F4BDF4974375F288761502E1683155.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/09/NDP40-KB4462774-x86_3D9D6CC17C34A22B9F1421BF8A8CDBBE9EDE2B5C.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/08/ie8-windowsxp-kb4457426-x86-embedded-enu_5dac5caee0807d17ca37c8837a81d80c7f25f36a.exe http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/B/6/5B6BA120-99ED-4BA3-A6FD-B6C1A116C6B1/xlconv2007-kb4092466-fullfile-x86-glb.exe 3
SD73 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 A manual run of the MU picked up all the updates and they all seemed to install fine. However, kb4458318 popped up again after a second run of MU. I manually downloaded that one and ran the trusty /overwriteoem switch and that took care of that.
Dave-H Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Yes, I had to do that too! I also can't install KB4457046. It throws error 0x66A every time on Microsoft Update, and when I try the standalone installer, I get "KB4457046 does not apply, or is blocked by another condition on your computer." Anyone any ideas about that? I can't find any reference online to that specific problem. The other .NET 4.0 update installed fine.
SD73 Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave-H said: Yes, I had to do that too! I also can't install KB4457046. It throws error 0x66A every time on Microsoft Update, and when I try the standalone installer, I get "KB4457046 does not apply, or is blocked by another condition on your computer." Anyone any ideas about that? I can't find any reference online to that specific problem. The other .NET 4.0 update installed fine. Hey Dave, until you get some replies from the heavy hitters I'll add I do my installs with my virus protection disabled. Also have you tried clearing your temp folder for your updates? The last thing I can think of is check your logs for a clue.
FranceBB Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Yes, the lovely yellow shield is back. There's no need to manually install updates anymore, Microsoft Update it's back and it works as it should.
Dibya Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Holy moly my laptop installed all security patches automatically . I am so happy. Yellow warrior is back
Bersaglio Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 @Dave-H It seems that KB4457046 is a critical security update for .NET Framework 4 Extended only. If You have only .NET Framework 4 Client Profile installed on Your system then this update is not required for You and this is a Microsoft Update error if it appears again and again.
Dave-H Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Sorry for the delay in responding, I don't seem to be getting any e-mail notifications of replies again. Yes, I only have Client Profile installed on the machine with the problem, so that would certainly explain it!
dencorso Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 @Dave-H: you may want to visit Aaron Stebner's wonderful Unified .NET Framework Troubleshooting Guide page:https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/astebner/2005/08/22/unified-net-framework-troubleshooting-guide/ once there you might download the Setup Verification Tool and the Tool to Gather Logs and run them... you'll get a wealth of info about your setup without harming it, and as a bonus, you get familiar with one of the most useful single pages on the web! We have cross posted... well, I'm glad my suggestion is unnecessary, in view of your latest post. Then again, I still recommend a visit to Aaron's page, just to get familiar with it and his powerful tools.
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