Dave-H

OK, enabling the "Click" option in the control panel and switching left and right click on works, the buttons immediately come back to life! They remain working after a reboot, but the Click option is no longer in the control panel.

OK, now I'm completely at a loss! I went through the new INF, and restored all the lines that were disabled by ;# at the beginning of them. I did that by copying them below the originals and removing the ;# on all of the copied lines. This was just so I could easily see what I'd changed. That should surely be OK? I then tried uninstalling and reinstalling again, and the touchpad "mouse buttons" still don't work! I must have missed something, but I cannot see what it is. Either that or something else is wrong with the INF with has nothing to do with the newly disabled lines. I've attached it, please can you check that I've not missed anything! ETDRestored.inf

You could well be right about a connection there. I've looked, and the corner tap function actually looks very unhappy at the moment, the corner adjustment bars are flickering around, and the corner highlights flickering on and off! I guess something has been disabled which it needs to function properly, so if that's affected the mouse click functions as well that would make perfect sense!

Thanks, but the touchpad isn't actually disabled, I can still move the cursor around with it, and tap to click. It's the "mouse clicking" function on the bottom left and right corners which isn't working, but the strange thing is that the animation on the system tray icon is still showing the clicks, they're just not doing anything!

Well I just tried another uninstall and reinstall, with those settings enabled, and the button clicks don't work again! Back to the drawing board.........

Well I haven't tried every single combination of enabling and disabling them, but the following entries seem to all need to be enabled for the touchpad "mouse buttons" to work - HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_Enable,%REG_DWORD%,0 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_Up_Range,%REG_DWORD%,400 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_Down_Range,%REG_DWORD%,25 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_Left_Range,%REG_DWORD%,800 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_Right_Range,%REG_DWORD%,800 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_IdleTime_ShowItem,%REG_DWORD%,0 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_IdleTime_Enable,%REG_DWORD%,0 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_IdleTime,%REG_DWORD%,3 HKLM,"%ServiceRoot%\Elantech\SmartPad",SmartArea_IdleTime_Unit,%REG_DWORD%,1000 The other entries in that section don't need to be enabled. As we never determined what the "SmartArea" settings were supposed to do, I now have a theory! I'm wondering if the "SmartArea" is actually the area of the touchpad where pushing down on it is registered to be a mouse click. As there is only one physical switch, the software has to tell when the front part of the pad is pressed whether it's a click, and whether it's a left click or a right click. If those settings are not present it could be that the touchpad "active area" for mouse clicking might be disabled completely, so no "clicking" on the touchpad is detected at all. Of course, the fact that the system tray icon still shows the "clicks" would seem to contradict that, but that's all I've got!

Thank you!

The problem appears to be in the "SmartArea" section, but I haven't yet determined which setting or settings in that section are the cause. I will carry on eliminating them and let you know the culprit or culprits!

Glad to hear it worked out for you!

Already tried resetting the control panel, no difference. Unplugging the USB mouse doesn't bring them back to life either. I just reinstalled using the original INF, and all is fine again.

Well I'll certainly have another go, but unfortunately there's now a rather more severe problem! How I didn't notice this until now I have no idea, I thought everything was fine, but the touchpad buttons are now no longer working! They show on the system tray icon animation when "pressed", but don't do anything! I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling again, but no difference. I could have sworn that they were OK the first time I got the new INF to work, surely I would have noticed immediately if something so fundamental was wrong. The problem is that I still prefer the mouse so much to the touchpad that I instinctively reach for that most of the time! I've checked the "Button" settings on the control panel and they seem fine, changing them does nothing though.

Must have been, it seems to be fine now, although i will try a few more uninstalls and reinstalls just to make absolutely sure! Still no luck with the magnifier I'm afraid, even on the two finger setting. I assume you press with two fingers and then tap or double tap with one of them? Nothing happens no matter what I do! It is significant I think that ETDMag.exe was not actually included in the 11.4.14.1 or 11.5.20.3 drivers. Perhaps the version of ETDCtrl.exe we're using just cannot invoke it, and the only way we could use it would be to run it from the Windows Start Menu as a standalone program.

When I installed the first time with the new INF, after uninstalling and making sure that all the files and registry entries had been deleted, I got the usual warning about general driver signing, then the usual warning about the Elan Input Device device signing, but then a warning popped up about Microsoft PS/2 Mouse not being signed, which never used to happen. After the copying process I then get a message that the install hadn't succeeded. On reboot, the Elan tab in Mouse Properties was all greyed out with its device list empty. and Device Manager still showed Microsoft PS/2 Mouse. If I ran ETDAniconf.exe, it was a completely blank white window just with the buttons at the bottom and the copyright header. The files had been copied to the Elantech program folder, and ETD.sys was in the Drivers folder. Now here's the really strange thing, when I tried the install again, without uninstalling first, the install then worked, and everything was fine! I then uninstalled, and installed again, and everything was still fine, and now I can't fault it! Very odd! I will check out the options now being offered by the control panel, and confirm that they work as intended (or otherwise!)

OK, the INF file is attached. I have made a few modifications to it, to allow the copying of ETDMag.exe and ETDDeviceInformation.exe to the program folder. Also I changed "WHQL" to "Custom" in the driver ID string, as it surely isn't WHQL now after being modified so much! I deleted those registry keys, and all still seems to be working fine. However after a reboot, the Pointstick entry in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Elantech\ had come back! The one in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Elantech\ hasn't. Cheers, Dave. ETD.inf

OK thanks. Good to know that the options installed by default by the two versions' INFs are not that different. I do wonder why some functions which actually work are not offered on a default install, presumably using either INF.

I've been following the Otter project for a long time, after being a total fanatic for Presto Opera 12, still the best browser ever IMO. I still have it installed, and still use it on Windows 98! Along with many others I was absolutely gutted when it was suddenly abandoned in favour of yet another Chromium clone. Otter works well, and supports XP, but as you say its development is extremely slow, I suspect because it's now virtually a one man project.

Yet again I am completely in awe of the amount of effort you're putting into this! However, surely if the settings to control the presence or absence or functions interact with each other, it's going to be incredibly difficult to determine what the maximum number of simultaneous working functions it's possible to have with this setup without a surely completely unjustifiable amount of time and effort?! The problem as I see it is that we are using the files from driver version 11.4.14.1, but the installation routine is based on the INF file from driver version 11.5.20.3. Now presumably an install using the INF from 11.4.14.1, if it worked, would only put into the control panel the functions with are supported by the files from 11.4.14.1. By using the INF from 11.5.20.3, we have surely potentially added some functions which won't be supported and maybe lost some functions which would be. Did we ever try just modifying the default INF from 11.4.14.1 to add support for my hardware, instead of using the 11.5.20.3 one? If we didn't, I can't remember why we didn't do that. Surely all we actually need is an install of 11.4.14.1 which recognises my touchpad?

Yes, it's not a pleasant experience, but really glad to hear that it did work for you!

Don't worry, my installation of Office 2010 said exactly the same thing, but when I rang the activation number it still worked fine! Do you have the activation number for your country?

I've still got all the SmartPadDisplay settings at "1" and I'm not seeing this! Is it possible that others do actually have to be at "0" for some of the functions to actually display, as some settings are mutually exclusive?

As RainyShadow said, speakerphone is certainly another good alternative if you haven't got access to a traditional landline phone! Personally I'd still rather have the headset to my ear in case the line is bad and/or there's a lot of background noise. It's not worth the risk of having to start all over again if you mishear something! Good luck!

I've used telephone activation in recent months, both for Office 2010 and for the reactivation of Windows XP, and it was very tedious to do, but it did work. That was in the UK though, it may not be available everywhere. Give it a try if you have a number, it may just work! Try to do it on a landline phone where the keypad is separate from the handset, you will find it much easier. Anyone who's done this procedure will know why!

I merged your three files into the registry, and the "Clicking" display is now as you're seeing, and the single-finger setting does work to select the corner click functions, but I can't see what the top (non-selectable) function represents. I guess that is the equivalent function for the "Button" function on touchpads that don't have two physical button switches. The multi-finger version doesn't seem to work though, nothing happens no matter what it's set to. Setting three finger tap to invoke the magnifier works fine. There's no sign of the "Free Typing" function you're seeing.

Well I couldn't get the magnifier to appear whatever finger gymnastics I performed! I guess perhaps it needs more than just the presence of ETDMag.exe in the program folder. I set all the xxxx_ShowItem keys in the registry to "1". Unfortunately, when I rebooted a lot of the ones in HKCU\Software\Elantech\SmartPad had reverted to "0" again! The ones in the HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Elantech\SmartPad had stayed at "1" but there is no difference in the control panel options or display. The "Chick" function is still as before - The version under the "Multi-finger" tab is still completely empty!

The yellow shield in the system tray does appear for me, eventually! Your best bet is just to get the updates from the MS Update Catalogue and install them manually.