Dave-H

Well all I have in the Program Files\Elantech folder now is - ASUS_UI.exe 10.0.0.26 ETDCtrl.exe 11.0.0.13 ETDUn_inst.exe 10.0.0.9 ETDApix.dll 11.0.0.8 ETDCmds.dll 11.0.0.8 ETDFavorite.dll 11.0.0.7 ETDMcpl.dll 11.0.0.10 ETDUninst.dll 10.0.0.1 That is it, nothing else, and the driver works fine with the Asus control panel (without any videos, but who cares!) ETDMcpl.dll is only there to support your icon in the Windows Control Panel, I don't think it's needed otherwise. Actually I think the sluggishness of the control panel could very well be being caused by the fact that if you remember I'm using a very basic graphics driver at the moment, where the refresh rate is extremely poor. I'm sure if we can ever magic up a proper working graphics driver it will be a lot better! Only ETDSimpleUI.exe works well with its videos, so would be the only other one I'd want to use, but it's missing a couple of three finger options which are on the Asus control panel. I actually think that's OK, it does the job, and at least as far as I'm concerned I won't be changing the settings at all anyway once I've got them the way i want them (basically that's everything on the touchpad disabled apart from the basic mouse functions!)

The files from the Toshiba driver don't work even if ETD.sys remains the older version. ETDCtrl.exe is running but there is no system tray icon and the settings have reverted to the defaults. The error in Device Manager has gone away though, so I guess that was being caused just by the incompatible ETD.sys. I've put the original versions back. With the registry entry at "7" I now have an Elan style icon in the system tray instead of the Asus style one, which is working, and an Elan tab on the Mouse Properties, which is also working. I moved the ToshibaTp.exe file into the Elantech folder and removed the others, and all its video files, replacing the others. I had to add ETD_DLL.dll to the Elantech folder as the control panel said it was missing. That control panel is very slow and unresponsive though, and seems to be missing some items. There is no check box beside the "tapping" label for instance. It's also not showing any videos, like the Asus control panel. The Elan Simple Control Panel seems to be the only one where the videos are actually working. Frankly I don't think what I've got now is any improvement on what we had before.

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I'm now really convinced that the ETD.sys that we're using (11.0.0.31) is the only version that will actually work for us on XP. I don't think we've had any functional driver at all on XP with any other version. I think it's possibly the one and only version at the very start of the 11.x series that happens to work on XP and can also talk to my hardware. Possibly all the earlier ones won't talk to the hardware, and all the later ones just don't work on XP. Whether it works on XP by accident or design I don't know, I'm just glad that it does! I will try experimenting with the other files.

No luck with the files from those newly discovered drivers I'm afraid. I replaced the two exe files, the five dll files, and the etd.sys, and the result was the same with both. In both cases ERDCtrl.exe is running fine, but there is no icon in the system tray and Device Manager is showing a corrupted driver message, and the touchpad is dead.

OK, I'll try substituting the files from those later drivers, and report back!

As I'm sure you've already determined, neither of those drivers have ETD0108 in their INF files, so definitely won't work on my system without modification I wouldn't have thought. I guess I could try just substituting the files we're using from 11.4.14.1 with the equivalent files from either or both of those drivers to see if it still works. That would be justified I think as we will then be used later XP compatible versions.

Yes, I have been very puzzled throughout this exercise just how the stated versions of the various drivers seem to have no correlation at all to the versions of the files contained in them! Anyway, now we have a working version I'm not too anxious to go into trying other versions, even if they might be a bit newer. Unless they install and work properly on XP without modification, which I'm happy to try but I feel is very unlikely, my vote would be to stick with what we've got, if we can perhaps get the INF down to a more sensible size and then produce a package which works as is with no unnecessary files included and with easy access to a functional control panel, that's "job done" as far as I'm concerned.

OK, I restored everything back to the way it was first thing today. and the errors have gone away. I tried different versions of Asus_UI.exe, and the version 10 ones seemed to be pretty much the same as each other. 10.0.0.16 was perhaps marginally the most responsive. The one thing that does kill it I've found is trying to get its videos to work. Moving the avi files across to the Elantech folder from the same version as Asus_UI.exe came from does not make the videos display, but the UI slows to a crawl, as if its trying to find them or something. Maybe, unlike the ETDSimpleUI, it needs more than the video files' simple presence in the folder to make them work.

Setting it to "4" produces a "Touchpad" tab (Samsung branded), but not an "Elan" tab. EDIT: Setting it to "0" does produce an "Elan" tab.

Asus_UI.exe (all versions) is also starting to throw .NET errors every time it's closed now. I think maybe it's time to restore the registry and the Elantech folder back to how it was before we started doing all this!

I'm afraid that the Elan tab on the Mouse Properties is still obstinately refusing to appear even with all the registry entries in place, and ETDMCpl.dll in the Elantech folder. I tried rebooting, and that didn't bring it back either. The "UI_Theme" entry is still set to "5", I assume that's OK.

Sorry, I have no Elan tab anyway at the moment, which is why the test was invalid! How should I restore it to do the test again, which registry value?

I think it's probably just running better as it's a different version of Asus_UI.exe. The version in 11.5.20.3 is 11.6.0.0, the version in 11.5.2.1 (the version with agesture.dll in it ) is 10.0.0.16!

No it isn't. The key was already there, I deleted it and your reg file seems to have just put back what was there before.

Sorry, I really messed up the formatting on that previous post, I ended up with nested quotations for some reason, and I can't see any way to correct it! I hope it's still clear enough.

The Mouse Properties comes up, with the "Touchpad" tab. Selection "options" brings up the ETDSimpleUI interface, as you say. It disappears if ETDMcpl.dll is disabled.

OK, with all the files in place, the results of the different registry settings were - 0 -Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). The Mouse properties has the Elan tab, and selecting "options" runs a complex non-functional Elan control panel. 1 - Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). The Mouse properties has the Elan tab, and selecting "options" runs a simpler non-functional Elan control panel. (This may have happened before as well, but I didn't notice that the two control panels were different!) 2 - Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). The Mouse properties has a "Dell Touchpad" tab which seems to be non-functional (dead links as before). Still a memory exception from RunDLL32.exe when it's closed. 3 - Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). The Mouse properties has an "UltraNav" tab. The "Trackpoint" section settings button brings up a simple Trackpoint control panel, the "Touchpad" settings button brings up another instance of the simple Elan control panel as in "1". Still non-functional, settings are not changed by it although the UI says they are. 4 - Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). The Mouse properties has a "Touchpad" tab (Samsung branded). The "options" button brings up the ETDSimpleUI.exe control panel, which is functional. 5- Double clicking the system tray icon runs Asus Smart Gesture (Asus_UI.exe). No extra tabs on the Mouse Properties. So now the system tray icon always brings up the Asus Smart Gesture control panel.

Yes, in details view it was exactly as you said. Adding that string to the registry has given it a title. I don't think later versions of the Elan driver had a Windows Control Panel icon anyway, only the earlier ones did. The later ones get to the settings via the Mouse Properties tab, so instead of the system tray icon directly invoking the touchpad control panel, as the Asus drivers do, it invokes the Mouse Properties and you then have to go the Elan tab and select "Options". A rather more roundabout way of doing it, I'd much rather that double clicking the icon brought the touchpad control panel straight up! The very latest Asus Smart Gesture drivers, which I've used on 8.1, do have a Windows Control Panel icon again, so there seems to be no consistency as to whether they do or don't, I guess it depends on different manufacturers' specifications for their customisations of the drivers.

The icon in the Windows Control Panel has the correct image, but no text underneath it as it should have. Hovering the cursor over it does produce a popup saying "Customize the Smart-Pad Multi-finger Setting". ETDMcpl.dll is in the Elantech folder. I'll check out the other options and get back to you later on. I've copied the necessary files. The asgesture.dll file doesn't seem to exist in 11.5.20.3, so I've taken it from 11.5.2.1, along with its associated Asus_UI.exe file. I have to say that the Asus control panel is now running a huge amount better with those files, to the extent that I'd now be happy to use it! There are some settings which the Elan simple control panel does not include.

I tried the various options on that registry key, with the following results (it was set to 5) - 0 - Double clicking the system tray icon still invokes the Mouse Properties, but the Elan tab is now there and functional. Clicking "options" brings up the full Elan control panel, but changing its settings appears to do nothing. 1 - Appears to be the same result as 0. 2 - Double clicking the system tray icon now produces a Mouse Properties window that has a "Dell Touchpad" tab at the very left, showing a picture of a touchpad, which makes it look completely different when first invoked! The picture is a link, and there is also some link text ("Click to change Dell Touchpad settings"). They may well link to the same thing, but neither of them do anything when clicked. Closing the Mouse Properties now throws a memory access error from RunDLL32.exe. 3 - Double clicking the system tray icon now produces a Mouse Properties window that has a "UltraNav" tab at the very right. There are settings for "TrackPoint" and "Touchpad". Trackpoint if you remember is the strange button in the keyboard that according to RainyShadow some people think resembles part of the female anatomy! Obviously I don't have that. Selecting the "Touchpad" options brings up a message that it can't find ETDAniConf.exe, so now we know what that file is for! Putting that in the Elantech folder results in the settings button bringing up yet another Elan control panel, but again it appears to be non-functional, in that changing its settings does not actually change the "live" settings. 4 - Double clicking the system tray icon just brings up the normal mouse properties again, as being set to 5 did. Interesting!

Sorry for the delay in responding. I tried your INF, and I now have an unlabelled icon in the Windows Control Panel which invokes the Elan simple touchpad control panel. I assume that was the intended result. Double clicking the Asus icon in the system tray still just invokes the Mouse Properties.

It appears that I can run ETDSimpleUI.exe from anywhere and it seems to work fine, it can even find its associated video files wherever it's run from, I even tried running it from the root of the Windows 8.1 drive and it worked fine, with its videos and settings shown correctly. IIRC pretty much all of the Elan drivers (as opposed to the Asus drivers) had the tab on the Mouse Properties. If you remember, one of the sticking points was that the mouse was not appearing correctly there, just appearing as a "Standard PS/2 Mouse".

Renaming the file to ETDnotfound.exe or Lenovo.exe still brings up the Mouse Properties. Only naming it Asus_UI.exe seems to restore it to running from the icon, so that's the filename it seems to be pointing to, and nothing else.

I tried renaming Asus_UI.exe to ETDSimpleUI.exe and rebooted. Double clicking the system tray icon now just brings up the Mouse Properties window. This would be fine I suppose if there was a tab there to allow you to access the control panel, but there isn't! I seem to remember that some of the Elan drivers did actually work like that on 8.1, to access the touchpad control panel via the Mouse Properties.