Dave-H

Understood. Yes, you could well be right about integrated graphics hardware being the issue. That could well explain why a driver that apparently supports the hardware and the operating system, and appears to install normally, then doesn't work. What can be done about this I have no idea! I did find a reference to the 0x000000EA BSOD in another forum, which although it related to a different card, suggested that turning "fast write" off might fix it. Apparently on later drivers it's on by default, and can cause problems with some hardware configurations. How you would try turning this off without the control panel I don't know, I can't find any reference to it in the registry. Congratulations on your 20,000th post BTW!

Thanks, I will once again be monitoring that thread!

I'd be interested to know how to do this if it's possible with Opera 12 on Windows 98SE! Sites are starting to fail now as they can't establish a secure connection. I've looked at Burp, and I assume it's sort or equivalent to Prox HTTPS Proxy MII, but presumably it runs on ME (and hopefully 98SE)? Off-topic for this thread of course......

OK, I gave it a try, with not quite the expected results. I tried first using the files in folder B166713, which appeared to be newer than those in B166496. That just produced the BSOD when rebooted. I didn't try to change any settings. I then uninstalled with Device Manager in Safe Mode, and tried again with the files in B166496. That apparently installed OK, overwriting all the newer existing files, but on reboot did not BSOD. However in Device Manager, the device shows the ever-popular "Cannot start (code 10)".

That is certainly bizarre! How about trying a Device Manager install using Forced3001, but with the INF from ATI3005? I'm sure it will produce the same result, but you never know!

NT 3.51 on my 1993 system! Just because.

Both!

No joy I'm afraid, same BSOD after installing just the graphics driver using the INF.

I'll let you know!

Update. I went to Device Manager and it said that the graphics driver was disabled. I enabled it, and it appeared to enable fine and said it was working properly. The refresh rate was still very poor though, so I went to the Display Properties and it was set to a very low resolution and colour depth (even though the display resolution and depth actually looked fine!) I then set it to the settings I wanted, and it tried to set them, but then the BSOD came back "The device driver got stuck in an infinite loop" 0x000000EA.

OK, sorry for the delay. I did a complete ISO backup of the machine, and then tried installing ATI3005. It appeared to install absolutely fine, but as expected, it doesn't work. When I boot up, I get a message saying "No AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning. Please install the AMD driver appropriate for your AMD hardware". Rather strange considering that the installer recognised the HD8180 absolutely fine, and apparently installed the driver with no errors! I had to install the whole thing unfortunately, just running CX178340.msi gives the message "This package requires AMD Catalyst Install Manager to install. Would you like to launch AMD Catalyst Install Manager to install this package?" So like a good boy, I did!

Agreed on the naming! I will try installing ATI3005 and report back.

What a mess!

Well I did have my doubts about the Vista compatibility of that driver! I guess the only way to know is to try and install it on a Vista machine. I guess the install will fail at a very early stage if it isn't compatible. Anyone with a Vista installation brave enough to try?! I was only hoping that, as with the touchpad driver, it might be possible to combine elements from two different drivers. Of course the fundamental difference is that there were official XP drivers for Elan touchpads, but there were never any XP drivers for the HD8180 graphics hardware.

Let's hope they haven't broken anything more for XP users!

Thanks, that's a lot more sensible! FWIW, here is the driver I found which (despite the file name) is supposedly Vista compatible, and contains my hardware ID. It's the only apparently Vista compatible one which had the ID I could find, all the rest are Windows 7 or later. I downloaded it in case i did decide to switch from XP to Vista on the notebook but of course I've never tested it. https://www.amd-drivers.com/download-RadeonHD8180-mobility-driver-for-WindowsVista-32bit.html It takes forever to download BTW! Maybe Doctor Frankenstein could use it along with the XP one..........

Two more today, KB4484382 (Outlook) and KB4484458 (Word). All OK!

This is the one, claims to be an XP compatible version of Catalyst 14.4. AFAIK it's the last version of any ATI Catalyst software that's XP compatible. https://download.cnet.com/ATI-Catalyst-Software-Suite-Windows-XP-32-bit/3000-2108_4-10159621.html After adding my hardware ID to the INF, this appears to install fine, but it BSODs on reboot.

Yes, that's the machine! cdob said it was a Kabini right back at the end of March, but I'm not sure what he based that on. The driver we came closest with was the Catalyst 14.4 package, which seems to be the very last version that's compatible with XP. I'll have to see if I can find where I downloaded it from, it's so long ago! Its INF file has entries up to and including Kabini PCI\VEN_1002&DEV9838. My hardware is of course PCI\VEN_1002&DEV9839! The INF has no mention of "Temash".

@jaclaz So, are you prepared to take up this fight again now?! We seemed to be so close, just the wretched BSOD which we never resolved, if indeed it is possible to do so. Is it worth exploring any other options, if there are any? Cheers, Dave.

OK, here's a new version with the ETDDeviceInformation shortcut description amended. I also took the opportunity to add a Start Menu shortcut for ETDAniconf.exe, so there are now three ways of launching it, from that shortcut, from the Windows Control Panel icon, and by double clicking the system tray icon! http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=52037400405643044948

Thanks to a suggestion from dencorso, I've uploaded it here, at least as a temporary solution. http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=16043508572974155299 Do check it out and make sure that it's OK for you. Do you want to leave the description on the ETDDeviceInformation.exe shortcut as it is?!

I've done my first packaging effort. Unfortunately it's 11.5MB and I can't attach it here!

Thanks, I did know that, in fact I was in PM conversation with dencorso about it a week or two ago, but it's hardly as convenient as having numbering which is clearly visible on each post, as almost every other forum I use has!

OK, I will get to this later today. I will start a new thread for the "final result", with a link to this "experimentation" thread, if that's the usual convention here. Then I'll have to ask dencorso to split off the earlier posts relating to the graphics hardware into a separate thread for that. This is not made any easier by this forum's annoying lack of post numbering!