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I think it's unlikely. My understanding was that versions after 13.x would not be XP compatible, and in fact would be 64 bit only. Be very careful if you do run that installer and it works, I tried one installer (13.6 I think) and it installed a lot of unwanted crap on my machine!
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If the program's installer needs a later version of Windows Installer than is supported on XP, is the program itself compatible with XP? This wouldn't be unknown, but if the program will work on XP but won't install on XP the only answer is probably to install it on a machine with a later version of Windows and copy the installation over to the XP machine. How difficult (or possible) this is varies from program to program of course.
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The other way around actually, they work but won't install as the installer became XP incompatible. 8u152 is the last with a working installer as you say, but versions up to 8u241 do work on XP if you do a rather tedious manual install process. 8u251 contains one XP incompatible file (sunmscapi.dll) which has to be replaced with the version from 8u241, but otherwise works. After 8u251 the file incompatibilities got so much worse it wasn't worth the trouble of trying to get it to work anymore!
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ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use
Dave-H replied to AstroSkipper's topic in Windows XP
So what does the ProxHTTPSProxy.exe file actually do in ProxyMII? Does it just run the ProxHTTPSProxy.bat batch file? I must say that I was puzzled as to why it was there, and I did wonder if it was there for compatibility reasons with other versions.- 922 replies
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FWIW, I found it still worked fine with 'localhost' instead of the actual IP address, the same settings as my existing ProxHTTPSProxy in fact.
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Off-topic of course, but I concur. POSReady updates have never given me any problems, but they did give me an extra five years worth of security updates!
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I didn't download it. Don't worry, I'll wait for the replacement version.
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Where is the 'archive' now? I thought the original was pulled because of licencing problems.
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks for that @rereser, I didn't know they had an international site. I guess they haven't got around to 'updating' that one yet!- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Well I'll have to make the move sometime, but not quite yet! When Firefox 52.9 ESR becomes unusable I will have to. Frankly I'm surprised that Mozilla still allow 52.9 ESR to use Firefox sync, browser companies usually stop older versions using their syncing systems, citing security risks.- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, good to know that there is a possible workaround. Personally I have Firefox 102 and Edge 103 on Windows 10 to fall back on with my multi-boot machine, so it wouldn't be worth it going to that trouble. It's annoying, but I can put up with it. It's just good to know what the problem actually is! The main problem will be when sites that I use all the time start failing in 360Chrome. I've already found more failing in Firefox 52.9 ESR, the latest being https://forums.digitalspy.com which suddenly started just producing a blank white page unless JavaScript was disabled. This is a site I use all the time. Some functionality is lost with JavaScript disabled, but at least I can still read the forums there! It's still OK in 360Chrome, touch wood!- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks so much guys, especially @VistaLover, great detective work! So, it appears that 360Chome 13.5, which I thought would be pretty much OK at least in the short term, already isn't! How would Proxomitron fix this? Certainly using ProxHTTPSProxy seems to make no difference to the problem.- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Interestingly it doesn't appear to be a JavaScript problem, which is what it looks like I agree. If I switch JavaScript completely off in Firefox 102 and go to the site it still looks fine, apart from a few missing images. So the poor formatting doesn't appear to be caused by a JavaScript failure. Curiouser and curiouser........- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, thanks for that. This is off-topic here of course, but I've been very impressed how the developer of Otter has stuck with it all this time. Its updates are few and far between, its user forum is dead, and it seems to now be completely just one person's project. It was of course specifically intended to be a replacement for my much beloved Presto Opera, as was Vivaldi, but the latter went the Chromium route of course, and that was the end of it as far as XP was concerned. It never occurred to me that the LNER site might work in Otter, and when @AstroSkipper pointed it out, I was amazed! As far as this thread is concerned, I'm more concerned that the site won't work in 360Chrome 13.5, and it's the first site that I've seen completely fail to render properly in that browser. I can only assume that the site now needs a Chromium version newer than 86, or there is some JavaScript incompatibility. It's not a site I use very often, but it was certainly fine the last time I used it, so they must have done some code changes. Looking at it in Firefox 102 it looks to me exactly as it did before, so it hasn't actually been redesigned, something's just been done in the background. Can anyone see it correctly in any version of 360Chrome?- 2,340 replies
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This thread is specifically for discussing the Vista extended kernel. Discussion about other drivers is off topic and should be done in dedicated threads please.
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thank you so much for that! I've actually had Otter Browser installed for years, and I've always kept it up to date, although I never actually use it! It never occurred to me to even try it with the LNER site, but as you say, it works (almost)! It's not quite right, I can't get rid of the cookie warnings for instance, but it's not the horrible mess that it is on 360Chrome. It didn't surprise me that it had failed on Firefox 52.9 ESR, as more and more sites are starting to have problems on that, but not working on 360Chrome 13.5 was a big surprise, and quite worrying! I guess it's a JavaScript problem, but I'm not expert enough on site coding to diagnose that.- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, this is very strange. I wonder what they've done to make it so incompatible? Annoying, because I can't use it on any browser on XP now.- 2,340 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
Dave-H replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Could someone do me a favour and check out this site for me (it's nothing dodgy, I promise!)? https://www.lner.co.uk/ It's always worked fine before, but now on XP in Firefox 52.9 ESR, and more worryingly in 360Chrome 13.5, it's just a mess. It's the site of one of the major rail operators here in the UK. It works fine in Firefox 102 on Windows 10. It looks to me as if the JavaScript isn't working, and I'd just like a confirmation that it isn't just me with the problem! Using or not using a local proxy server makes no difference. Thanks, Dave.- 2,340 replies