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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251011-3219d2d-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251011-3219d2d-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251011-3219d2d-uxp-b709881389-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251011-d849524bd-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251011-d849524bd-uxp-b709881389-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251011-d849524bd-uxp-b709881389-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251011-d849524bd-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251011-d849524bd-uxp-b709881389-w7plus-avx2.7z No official UXP changes picked since my last build. No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - mailnews: fix OAuth2Providers path (16dc4c9168) - Add support for HTMLSlotElement.assignedElements() (#2) (169c949e49) - Merge pull request #37 from ClassicNick/Merge-20251005 (f24e68da7b) - style: color-mix: when either color resolves to NS_COLOR_CURRENTCOLOR, it will cause color value reevaluation and cause stack overflow. hack it to use parent color instead. (702d61e68e) - caps: hack - check `mCSP` RefCount to avoid circular calls (b709881389) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251018-3219d2d-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251018-3219d2d-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251018-3219d2d-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251018-d849524bd-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251018-d849524bd-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251018-d849524bd-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251018-d849524bd-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251018-d849524bd-uxp-861967f98e-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - No issue - Set title for about:logopage (89ee61a746) - No issue - Improve compiler compatibility. (ac993f4fb3) - Issue #2855 - Fix rule node tracking for NAC (cc331e8e01) - [devtools] Remove newline kludge from "Copy as cURL" on Windows (4abf0b3f21) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - caps: follow-up of rev b7098813 - enlarge CSP's RefCnt value limit to prevent crashing in multiple process mode. (9ad9a88955) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

This may be of some use for Win XP users in today's world with Win XP being phased out more everyday ... this service is also listed to work with Windows 98 SE / ME also. I used it about 6 years ago myself and now am being forced to use it again in Oct 2025 to be able to get my Win XP computer on the internet with a VPN. The paid service I was using has finally cut off all Win XP connections. They warned two years ago it was coming and the service still works for my Windows 7 computer but I still mostly use my Win XP computer for everyday connecting. As I said above ... I used this free VPN about 6 years ago and I have hooked the XP computer up to the service again. I will say that they have really improved things and the service is great in 2025. Perhaps some of you know about it already but if not ... then you can check it out if you need a VPN for Win XP. https://www.vpngate.net/en/ https://www.vpngate.net/en/download.aspx VPN Gate - Public Free VPN Cloud by Univ of Tsukuba, Japan Welcome to VPN Gate. (Launched on March 8, 2013.) - You can get through your government's firewall to browse restricted websites. (e.g. YouTube.) - You can disguise your IP address to hide your identity while surfing the Internet. - You can protect yourself by utilizing the strong encryption while using public Wi-Fi. More Details... - TunnelCrack protection implemented in SoftEther VPN Client (August 31, 2023) Supports Windows, Mac, iPhone, iPad and Android. Compatible OS: Windows, CPU: Intel x86 and x64 (Windows 98 SE / ME / 2000 SP4 / XP SP2, SP3 / Server 2003 SP2 / Vista SP1, SP2 / Server 2008 SP1, SP2 / Hyper-V Server 2008 / 7 SP1 / Server 2008 R2 SP1 / Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 / 8 / 10 / Server 2012 / Hyper-V Server 2012) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It looks complicated but it really isn't. Spend some time reading everything and you should be good to go. I'm impressed from using it 6 years ago to how it has improved. One word about connecting, if you need an US connection for banking, Tubi or whatever ... they are not always there, just at various times. You will figure all this out as you get familiar with the service. ...

@nicolaasjan : https://3dyd.github.io/pyinstaller-builds/ Your prayers have been answered! https://github.com/3dyd/pyinstaller-builds https://github.com/3dyd/pyinstaller/tree/6.16.0-xp

Support for EJS is now implemented in yt-dlp master branch. https://github.com/nicolaasjan/yt-dlp/releases/tag/2025.11.01.082330

Here is another test version, using the PR fork with EJS support (also works on Vista). Instead of Deno, Windows 7 (and Vista) users can install QuickJS.

I was never able to correctly open all *.???x files with either Office XP or Office 2003 using the Compatibility Pack. As a result, I moved to Office 2010 with UBitMenu. Another problem with Excel on these previous versions of Office is that they were unable to correctly handle more complicated spreadsheets, such as Glenn Reeves' Excel IRS Form 1040.

Detailed explanation of this issue on WinXP SP3: https://github.com/3dyd/pyinstaller-builds/issues/2#issuecomment-3464525813 Excerpt form PyInst-6.0.0 documentation: https://pyinstaller.org/en/v6.0.0/CHANGES.html#incompatible-changes The psapi.dll in question (with the missing function) is the system one, while the one inside the "_internal" dir (which isn't being loaded when PyInst-6.16.0-xpmod has been used) is PSAPI.DLL, one of the four wrapper DLLs (kernelXP.dll, ntextl.dll, psapi.dll, ws2_xx.dll) that are used to backport py3.11.4 to XP ...

My Office is 2007, so I may not be of much help. But maybe this will fix your issue (article cites your exact issue but on Windows 2000) -- https://superuser.com/questions/1504407/office-2003-cant-open-newer-office-files More specifically, solution was to use "version 2" of the compatibility pack (linked in superuser article) -- https://www.malavida.com/en/soft/microsoft-office-compatbility-pack/download

Most sadly, this is only part of the story ; probing the v20.19.2 (32-bit) binary (a whooping 61.3 MiB in filesize) with DependencyWalker, I found a total of six (6) Vista-incompatible function calls: in advapi32.dll: EventSetInformation in kernel32.dll: K32GetModuleBaseNameW K32GetProcessMemoryInfo ResolveLocaleName TryAcquireSRWLockExclusive TryAcquireSRWLockShared The first one can also be a thing on a partially updated Win7 SP1 install (see this); thank you for already raising a Vista-support issue with Vladimir ...

I guess the extra features fulfills the plus part of Vista+. I understand the desire for targeted features and size reduction though. Now, with a known working configuration we can certainly remove features. That part will be easy. I can start with the items you listed for a future build. The libfdk-aac external functionality is included for parity with the XP version and of course the dll is not required to run the FFmpeg binaries. This functionality can also be removed if desired.

FFmpeg shared for Vista x86.

Yes WS addressed that and the court case being dismissed. I have searched the WS Reddit page but all that has been pushed further back with newer questions and replies. From memory it was the fault of the company supplying the server. They were in the process at the time of changing servers over to a 'no logs' policy. Then the court case was thrown out this year. They have been growing in the last ten years, people seem to like the company. They still do offer 10 GB free every month on the free plan. That's why I signed up 5 years ago ... at the time they had a nice Win XP app which went away about 1 1/2 years later but people already signed up could still use Win XP for the 'free' or 'pro' service. https://old.reddit.com/r/Windscribe/ For newer computers you might want to check them out. Then I just came across another company that also offers free 10 GBs every month also but they have nothing for Win XP that I can find, but it may be of value for newer computers or phones. https://privadovpn.com/ Download Free VPN App for Windows Get 10GB of data for free every 30 days No payment details required, no strings attached, and no hoops to jump through PrivadoVPN is committed to protecting your privacy for free Is PrivadoVPN a no log VPN? Yes, we ensure that we never log browsing history, traffic destination, data content, IP addresses, or DNS queries. We encrypt all data over our VPN connections, and we do not inspect or record the contents of what you are viewing, browsing, or doing through the PrivadoVPN connections. Free VPN (10GB/month) | Unlimited Devices - PrivadoVPN https://privadovpn.com/freevpn/ So that may be another option for some people. I still like the Japan VPN that I mentioned in my first post. It sets up everything very easy and Win XP works very good plus in 2025 support for people still using Windows 98 SE can be a plus. Most of the servers are located in Japan but there are others scattered around other locations ... but most seem to be in Asia. ...

Yes, I've already tested it and everything is working. 🙂 However, now the question is ; how long will yt-dlp on XP keep working?... 🤔 Soon, an external JavaScript runtime will be needed. Deno is out of the question on older systems and yt-dlp-getpot-jsi gave me errors on both Windows XP and Windows7 (see Issue 9 ).

and you can change general.useragent.compatMode.version that reports to websites in about:config.

Thanks a lot for your reply ; as I wrote, Vista SP2 32-bit here; from 2016-2018 I used to use MABS (MSYS2/MinGW) to compile locally non-free ffmpeg builds; after that time, several MSYS2 components went Win7+ (e.g. "make") and by 2021, the compiler itself stopped being available for the 32-bit architecture; needless to say, latest MABS is meant for a recent version of Win10 64-bit; yes, you probably can still compile 32-bit binaries with it, but those won't run on Vista, possibly not on Win7, too ... The AnimMouse ffmpeg builds used to be Vista-compatible, but broke at some time (early 2022); as a Vista user too, you probably know those things already ... I'm not closely following current FFmpeg development ; at one time I was aware that the FFmpeg code itself continued to be NT 6.0 compatible (as opposed to NT 5.x), so that a "no-libs" compiled binary would launch normally under Vista; but a lot of the third party (external) libs built normally into FFmpeg are the main culprits for breaking Vista-support (x265 comes to mind, with its NUMA Win7+ functions ) ; it must be quite an enormous task today for you to restore NT 6.1/6.0 and even 5.x support on your custom FFmpeg builds; you are to be highly praised for this feat ... On a 32-bit, under-resourced (by today's standards ) machine, I practically have little use of most of those extra libs (especially video encoders); I rarely do video transcoding here, mostly audio transcoding is being performed; it's those many optional external libs that inflate static binaries' filesize and are the cause for broken NT 6.0 support, for all I know... Thanks for your intention! User Reino here (now on Win11) used to offer both static+shared 32-bit builds, targeting WinXP SP3 and an SSE-only CPU, ca. every 4 months ; it'd be very sweet from you if you managed to offer something similar, but for more recent CPUs (e.g. SSE2+) and on Vista+... FWIW, this thread started a long while ago and mentions "winxp" in its title, but is actually frequented now by members of various WinOSes ; so I hope you posting Vista+ FFmpeg builds will be OK ; of course, there's always that ... "Willing to test? " -> Simply throw "them" at me ... Best regards.

No idea. My homebrew Python 3.14 Linux standalone executable is even 51.7MB. 😮 Almost 100MB unpacked in the /tmp folder.

Don't the standalone Linux builds work (they have newer Python embedded)? yt-dlp_linux or (for 32bit) my yt-dlp_linux_x86.

Updated FFmpeg for Windows XP. Same libfdk-aac.

EssentialPIM 12.0.6 29/08/2024 still works on WinXP https://essentialpim.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/11039320139922-EssentialPIM-versions-11-2-12-2 https://www.essentialpim.com/download/old/EssentialPIM120.exe EssentialPIM 12.5.2 26/09/2025 don't works on WinXP Other email client OAUth2, tested in Winxp: https://www.gammadyne.com/email_client.htm https://support.google.com/mail/answer/16604719?hl=en Starting January 2026, Gmail will no longer provide support for the following features: . GMailify: This feature allows you to get special features like spam protection or inbox organization applied to your third-party email account. Learn more about Gmailify. You won’t be able to get specific features in Gmail applied to your third-party account. . Mail Fetcher, Set up automatic forwarding (web) ... Gretings

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20251018-e2f63f387-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20251018-e2f63f387-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: No issue - Improve compiler compatibility. (ac993f4f) (88149f721) - import from UXP: Issue #2855 - Fix rule node tracking for NAC (cc331e8e) (1b577a8b4) - import from UXP: [devtools] Remove newline kludge from "Copy as cURL" on Windows (4abf0b3f) (1c307b192) - import from `custom` branch of UXP: caps: follow-up of rev b7098813 - enlarge CSP's RefCnt value limit to prevent crashing in multiple process mode. (9ad9a889) (e2f63f387)

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251018-40a79c75-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251018-40a79c75-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251018-id-656ea98-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251018-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-861967f98e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Yes I have used Windscribe service for six years now. I went a few months with their 10 GB monthly free plan and paid for a year Christmas special and then a 3 year Black Friday special twice. A paid service is better but I still have over a year of time left on the plan and I am not paying for another service. The 'free service' will be OK in my situation. I went to the VPNBook web site and will check that out more. It might be better. I like the one that I mentioned earlier. My Win 7 notebook still works with the paid service. My time with Win XP is slowly coming to an end anyway. I had four Win XP notebooks in 2010 and now I only have one left ... the best of the four which I rarely used till the last few months. When my paid subscription finally runs out next year, I will just use 'free' service. I have heard from customer service several times but I am not able to connect. They sent this info ... not sure what the 'extension tunnel' is ... might not be for my situation. ..................................................................................................... Our browser extension tunnels your browser traffic, not your entire device. That means your Chrome (or Firefox, Edge, whatever) traffic goes through Windscribe’s servers, while your other apps (Steam, Netflix app, etc.) use your normal internet. But it’s not just a mini VPN - it’s loaded with cool features, like: Ad & tracker blocking (because ads are the fungus of the internet). WebRTC Slayer - prevents your real IP from leaking. Time Warp, Location Warp & Language Warp - fakes your timezone, GPS and language to match your connected location. Cookie Monster & Split Personality - nukes cookies and rotates your browser’s fingerprint so trackers lose you faster than your last ex. It pairs beautifully with the desktop app for Double Hop, where traffic goes through two separate Windscribe locations for extra privacy. You can read more about the extension here on our website. (Scroll down until you see it) You can also get the extension from here: Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/windscribe-free-proxy-and/hnmpcagpplmpfojmgmnngilcnanddlhb Firefox - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/windscribe/ Edge - https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/windscribe-free-proxy-a/dkkdbpgldnmkhcliffjpajcfdjkcaddf For windows XP, you can probably get our old MV2 version browser extension to work. But this is not guaranteed. ...................................................................................... Maybe some others need a 'free VPN service also so they have this information now. Monroe ...

@Monroe For simple things ,where a no logging policy does not be of any interest, free VPN services may be used. BTW, VPNBook is another one. However, I personally prefer paid VPN services. Luckily, I own several lifetime licenses which have been working for years. Even though not all their servers can be used under Windows XP due to modern protocols, my VPN providers still offer older connection protocols on some servers as I prefer the L2TP/IPSec or in second place the PPTP protocol under Windows XP. Unfortunately, OpenVPN puts too much strain on my system.

it hits a "MOZ_CRASH(IPC FatalError in the parent process!)" intended crash with message "IPDL error [PContentParent]: Error deserializing 'Principal'". maybe the RefCnt knock out value is too low, tried to enlarge it a bit: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/9ad9a88955775ce04f7bd070e09ddc31c7868a3f

No, both yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe versions were built on Windows 10 64bit with 32bit Python. yt-dlp_win7.exe (and zipped) versions are built on Windows 7 64bit with 64bit Python. I think so. 🤔 Yes. And it was built with 3dyd's PyInstaller 6.15.0.

There is a new release available. The Win7 builds should now work again on Vista. They are now built with PyInstaller 6.16.0 (Vista compatible) . I forked 3dyd/pyinstaller-builds and changed the workflow file (trial and error...). https://github.com/nicolaasjan/pyinstaller-builds/releases

I'm sorry. I have no idea... ... At least I got this figured out, as it was seriously bugging me ; the "what" is hidden inside a changelog: https://github.com/adang1345/PythonVista/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md Your v2025.09.23.052315 yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe binary has been compiled with a flavour of 3.13.7 which, at that time, supported only Win7+ ; Vista support for 3.13.7 came on Sep 25th, 2 days after v2025.09.23.052315 was built, but in time for the v2025.09.27.071342 to be built with a Vista-enabled 3.13.7 interpreter (this assumes you manually updated to the Vista-compat flavour of 3.13.7) ... What is still unclear to me is: a) were both versions built on the same OS (Win7 SP1 ?) ? b) were both versions packaged with "official" PyInstaller-6.16.0 ? v2025.09.27.071342: [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.09.27.071342 (win7_x86_exe*) [debug] Python 3.13.7 (CPython AMD64 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.0.16 11 Feb 2025) and v2025.10.05.061237 [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.10.05.061237 (win7_x86_exe*) [debug] Python 3.13.7 (CPython AMD64 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.0.16 11 Feb 2025) have been both compiled on a 64-bit OS, with the 32-bit build of Vista-compatible 3.13.7; why, then, is the next v2025.10.13.80600, built on a Vista-compatible 3.14.0, broken on actual Vista SP2 32-bit? I have a hunch, based on adang1345's notes: https://github.com/adang1345/PythonVista/blob/master/README.md So, the same 3.14.0 CPython will behave differently when run on a Win7 machine to when run on a Vista machine; likewise for the PyInstaller-packaged resultant yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe binaries; but this theory doesn't explain builds v2025.09.27.071342+v2025.10.05.061237 (which run OK on Vista), unless they were also compiled on a Vista SP2 64-bit VM ... FWIW, adang1345 has made a new release of 3.13.9 less than an hour ago, https://github.com/adang1345/PythonVista/tree/master/3.13.9 and issued a re-release of 3.14.0 along with the above: https://github.com/adang1345/PythonVista/tree/master/3.14.0 His changelog only mentions the addition of 3.13.9, though ... This one launches OK: [debug] yt-dlp version local@2025.10.13 [eafedc218] (win_x86_exe) [debug] Python 3.14.0 (CPython AMD64 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.0.18 30 Sep 2025) Was a Vista SP2 64-bit VM used in this case? And which PyInst version? This one launches fine : yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe -v [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.10.13.080600 (win7_x86_exe*) [debug] Python 3.14.0 (CPython AMD64 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.0.18 30 Sep 2025) [debug] exe versions: none [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.10.05, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1834 extractors Usage: yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe [OPTIONS] URL [URL...] yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe: error: You must provide at least one URL. Type yt-dlp --help to see a list of all options. Less puzzled now , but still with unanswered questions ... Time to call it a night, regards...

It does. Thank you! I can confirm, the binary works on Win11 Pro (on my brand new Framework Desktop).

Updated yt-dlp_Py3.14.0_x86_Vista. (with IOS patch ) @Reino; Please test if this still suits your needs.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251011-40a79c75-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251011-40a79c75-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251011-id-656ea98-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251011-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b709881389-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Fortunately, my main system (Linux Mint) didn't have any issue compiling Brotli "automagically" when installing the dependencies for my newly compiled Python 3.14 (altinstall; that is, it is installed without interfering with system Python). Compiler is shipped with the distro. No problem, I was suspecting that already. It is.

Thanks ; they note: Hopefully, the brotli py3.14 wheel (file brotli-1.1.0-cp314-cp314-win32.whl) you kindly shared remains Vista-compatible; though, TBH, I'm not aware of any tests (within the context of yt-dlp or otherwise) I can submit it to ... Other than that, thank you for the details of the compilation procedure ; I agree it's not for the faint-hearted (or those lacking access to recent OS+H/W); when I, regrettably, find that PyPI misses wheels for a specific "module+module version+CPython+architecture" combination, I usually issue: python -m pip install module==specific_version and then let pip do its job in invoking setuptools+wheel to compile from module source; in the meantime, I cross my fingers for things to go as expected , which isn't always the case ; if the compilation succeeds, then pip will store in its cache a copy of the generated wheel, for easy re-usage; the local path to that wheel is being displayed in the command prompt window, so I always grab a copy from there ; of course, this is for pure Python modules, for ones with C/C++ extensions, a compiler must be made available to CPython (as you detailed yourself); CPython > 3.4 requires VS2015+, not compatible with my current OS ... Huh??? The above was meant to be written as: ... are compiled with adang1345's py3.13 (branch) implementation so that was a typo/oversight on my part ; apologies... Ofc I'm aware you've been using 3.13.7 for the win7 (+Vista) yt-dlp variants, that's why I wrote an update was due to recently released 3.13.8 ... ... That's your call, surely, but I'm more of a conservative person myself , who doesn't believe "the latest is the greatest"; however, if you're absolutely certain the yt-dlp code is fully compatible with recently released py3.14 (and the CPython itself doesn't come with any major bug), then go for it ; personally, I'd stick with the minimum CPython version mandated by yt-dlp, soon to be py3.10 (but it's also nice I can experiment with higher versions here, all thanks to adang1345 ) ... Best regards.

I used this: https://github.com/mstorsjo/llvm-mingw The 32bit build was compiled with Python 3.14.0 (x86) from adang1345 on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC. The 64bit build was compiled with Python 3.14.0 (x86-64) from adang1345 on Windows 7. To let Python use this compiler, place a file named `distutils.cfg` (see below) in `.\Lib\distutils` in Python install directory (create folder `distutils`). [build] compiler = mingw32 Build Brotli: Download source tarball and extract. In source directory run: python setup.py build_ext --compiler=mingw32 install Build wheel: python setup.py build_ext --compiler=mingw32 bdist_wheel In the directory where the built wheel is, run: pip install --force-reinstall brotli-1.1.0-cp314-cp314-win32.whl Huh??? .\yt-dlp_win7.exe -v [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1252, fs utf-8, pref cp1252, out cp1252 (No VT), error cp1252 (No VT), screen cp1252 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.10.05.061237 (win7_exe*) [debug] Python 3.13.7 (CPython AMD64 64bit) - Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 (OpenSSL 3.0.16 11 Feb 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg git-2025-10-04-e05f8ac-ffmpeg-windows-build-helpers (fdk,setts), ffprobe git-2025-10-04-e05f8ac-ffmpeg-windows-build-helpers, phantomjs 2.5.0 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.08.03, curl_cffi-0.13.0, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets, curl_cffi [debug] Extractor Plugins: NSigDeno (YoutubeIE) [debug] Plugin directories: C:\Users\Nico\AppData\Roaming\yt-dlp\plugins\bgutil-ytdlp-pot-provider\yt_dlp_plugins, C:\Users\Nico\AppData\Roaming\yt-dlp\plugins\yt-dlp-YTNSigDeno\yt_dlp_plugins [debug] Loaded 1833 extractors And the next Win7 builds will be Py3.14 based.

Hi ; well, cmalex's py3.11.4 assemblies (one compatible with just XP and one with Vista+) aren't currently being hosted on GitHub (AFAIAA), but they can be ; OTOH, adang1345's py3.13.7 assembly is already hosted on GitHub, and so is 3dyd's custom PyInstaller build used to make the Win7/Vista yt-dlp distributions; it may be possible, at least in theory, to author a modded GA workflow file to point to the custom implementations of CPython+PyInst necessary to package the Win7/Vista builds; e.g., upstream are using their own, custom, build of PyInstaller to create the "official" yt-dlp releases; perhaps a consultation with your "AI friend(s)" (or a question on SO, etc.) could prove beneficial in fully automating even the (currently) manually created release assets ; just a thought from a dedicated (hardly intelligent ) friend of yours... Best wishes !

IMO the internet got 'bad' once 'normal' people found it. But I think that is more nostalgia for the most part. As for when that happened, I'd say (at least in the US) that happened once Classmates came around. Everyone who was in high school or college went onto there to keep touch afterwards. That site got stepped on by Facebook which was originally designed for college students, but became so popular that old people joined it to keep in touch with those who were on it. For the current generation that is moving into the world, Facebook is seen as a site for old people which is a quote I've heard from multiple people of the younger generations, an insight I am afforded since I 'moonlight' at an arcade. This is only my perspective on things, but normal/old people from 20 years ago were basically computer illiterate, and astonishingly, people of that same stereotype in the current day are still mostly computer illiterate despite having grown up in with computers in a fully connected world. Combine that with the mentality that corporations have of treating adults (employees) like children and you end up with web technologies designed to protect the computer illiterate but in a fashion doesn't feel like the correct way to do it. I find it amusing that the link to this article on the Guardian brings me to a page where half of it is covered by a blue privacy/cookie notification. But overall I think that there are certainly many good points about how the internet has evolved and it is actually better in many ways now than it used to be. It is certainly more useful, something I didn't really grasp because I never had a mobile phone that was new enough to do anything cool until just recently. I think it will get better and we will figure out how to evolve it to deal with the current issues it has. There are more eyes on it now than ever before and that means more ideas of how to do things will occur. But that doesn't mean that there won't be some new dumb trend that everyone adopts that we'll have to deal with. We may end up looking back and laugh about how we were all bent out of shape about captchas and cookie banners in the face of whatever annoying thing we'll be having to deal with.

I think I am past point of missing old internet. Just trying cling to past and not saying I am missing old internet wont going to help. There were also evil things there like "Only viewable on internet exploder 4 or worse" I admit I used to also fall into that. What is typical problem there is that you keep doing things you totally disagree with and keep saying it. Then one day it hit me. What if instead of trying clinging to past memories I bring past to current. Nobody says you must use Spotispy, or any other things. What if instead of just using what everyone else is using to communicate (whatsapp) or do other stuff you use what you want to use and can be used on systems you have. If you really hate smartphones you don't have to have one, you can get still basic handsets even if live in country where GSM is killed, they are cheap ones usually sold for elderly people. If you hate modern Windows don't use it. Use something like linux mint to do "modern" stuff like filling out tax card, doing banking etc then outside that use whatever system and OS you feel good at. There are many projects that makes them usable. For example Windows 98 can totally be used for tasks with help of Pidgin, Retrozilla 2.3, proper codecs, putty win32 legacy etc. And if you think all your friends will stop talking to you if change way then ask are they really your friends if they will end friendship at that point. Sure there are some limits for what can be considered tolerable. If you would say now I will only communicate with smoke signals then it would be understandable that they are upset. You might think I just lack any friends and I got handful of them only but they are good friends I talk almost daily or hang with whenever just can. Most "friends" I had were just burden to me. If work requires them then you use during working hours as you should always keep work and personal life separate. I use whatever phone and computer employer tells me to during hours my wage is running and when hours are filled I leave them at the office or if home switch off power until next shift. I do not do any of personal work on company laptop or phone since security and not wanting mix up my personal and work life. If you are being your own employer you should still separate work and personal devices for security reasons as having one of them compromised compromises both. As for the web, you don't have to make site that forces SSL, bot protection, requires complex CSS and scripting etc. You can make one very basic. Just don't fall into wannabe 90s geocities site trend. You do not want but million animated gifs and annoying embedded midis into your site or write it with Microsoft RuntPage. I hated those site back then and hate whenever I see one of them today. You should prefer minimalism and avoid going over HTML4 strict. Something like Mozilla composer with css disabled is good starting point if you suck at coding or just want streamline doing site and then just do small fixes by hand with text editor. World is not going to change is nobody does nothing and just sit on their a** and complain. It starts change by making difference yourself.

The main thing I miss about "older" goods was the in-built design decisions, for repair-ability. I think, by the time I was born, food stuff had already started declining in quality. There was already information that farming soil was nutritionally depleted, in the 1940's. Clothing was certainly still better, but likely worse than what had previously existed. One of the more notable tragedies is the decline in vehicle quality. If I could pick the era of quality, for a vehicle, it would probably land between the 40's to the mid or late 70's (something with a manual transmission). I think Amazon, as a focus for product decline, high-lights some areas of well deserved and needed attention. There are variables, existing in that scenario, that really only apply to Amazon. I think Amazon's methodology is just one example, of over all trends. In some markets there is very little option, for quality. In others, quality is only advertised/available where it is likely to be afforded. It seems to me that the decline in quality is an attempt to retain spending; this in the face of climbing inflation. If quality products replaced affordable ones the state of things would be more apparent, to the common individual. Instead, we see an increase in housing, some foods, energy, and transportation. With this increase we also see an increase in wages (depending on where you live), but this increase is "not" proportional to market inflation. There are different methods of offsetting (at least perceptually) the disproportional increase in these financial variables. At the grocer, consumers may have noticed the increase in meat and egg prices (maybe a little with dairy). But, that increase does not enough express the actual inflation versus quality of product ratio. The quality of the meat and eggs has decreased, while their price still increased. If you look outside, of the common grocer, these products are even more expensive; in the case of meat four times higher, when previously being nearer to equivalent. The increase in the cost of oats, as another example, is less dramatic. But that cost is offset by methods of growing. The use of pesticides is increased, to speed up the oat drying process. By this practice, the yield "per season" gained enough to offset the consumer unit cost. It kinda looks like (despite making more money, by transitioning to inferior products) that the overall goal is to slant consumer perspective, on the actual state of inflation. Some product actually remains at stable prices, helping secure a perspective of stability. Gasoline is a great example of this, as it's pricing gets lots of attention.

I've tested and verified it with v2.40.4519. Serpent 55 starts and runs.

Oh NICE, thank you, yes they do work! Tbh, i simply ignored them until now, as the plain yt-dlp executable always did the job. Edit: Now, as i wanted to copy/deploy Python-3.12.5 from my dev-disk to the main System i discovered, that i didn't only ,brew' the executable (of about 36MB) but also an additional Python-3.12 folder in /usr/local/lib - of about 287 MB! So i decide to utilize this (now even more appreciated) Py-integrated version in the nearer future. And i'm wondering a bit, how the new XP-Version can be so small in size!

It doesn't happen in my Win10's either! *ALL* (minus a garage laptop for tuning turbo engines) of my computers now run Win10. They *ALL* ran XP as recently as only two years ago. THEY ALL PERFORM LEAPS AND BOUNDS *BETTER* ON 10 THAN THEY DID ON XP !!! But a "debloated" 10, obviously. And I'm talking real quantifiable metrics, not some "gut feeling placebo effect". BUT they are *all* stuck at Win10 21H2. At least until the day I can "debloat" newer to also perform BETTER THAN XP. All (except one) of my computers are 15yrs old or older. Granted, that one exception is less than 2yrs old, but it too runs Win10 21H2 (and gets an ocassional Linux every once in a while, only to return to Win10).

I should add that when I say "can be", I am referring to *ALL* versions of 10 and at least *early* versions of 11. I will have to REINSTALL a newer version of VirtualBox and a Win11 25H2 VM to see if the "old tricks" still work for *all* versions of 11.

Windows Firewall CAN and SHOULD be DISABLED in Win10 and Win11. Not that difficult! You should also go one step further and disable one of its "dependencies" (ie, BFE Service [Base Filtering Engine]).

; and as I had suspected, just the "yt-dlp.exe" file was enough ; and if you 1. delete the 4 wrapper DLLs targeting XP (kernelxp.dll, ntext.dll, psapi.dll, ws2_xx.dll) 2. substitute files python311.dll, _overlapped.pyd, _socket.pyd with their Vista counterparts (thanks, cmalex ), you can even run the "onedir" distribution under Vista SP2 32-bit: yt-dlp -v [debug] Command-line config: ['--ffmpeg-location', '<redacted>\\FFmpeg', '--downloader-args', 'ffmpeg:-v 8 -stats', '-v'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.10.13.080600 (win_x86_dir) [debug] Python 3.11.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.5.2 5 Aug 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg n8.1-dev-630-N-121254-g635cb45 (setts), ffprobe n8.1-dev-630-N-121254-g635cb45 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.10.05, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1834 extractors Usage: yt-dlp_x86 [OPTIONS] URL [URL...] yt-dlp_x86: error: You must provide at least one URL. Type yt-dlp --help to see a list of all options. Best wishes ...

I think that must be because I built directly after the standalone one, i.e. without deleting the build directory and start over. After I built the `onedir` version today from a fresh source directory, I got: [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1252, fs utf-8, pref cp1252, out cp1252 (No VT), error cp1252 (No VT), screen cp1252 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.10.13.080600 (win_x86_dir) [debug] Python 3.11.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-XP-5.1.2600-SP3 (OpenSSL 3.5.2 5 Aug 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-121254-g635cb4543f (fdk,setts), ffprobe N-121254-g635cb4543f, phantomjs 1.9.8 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.10.05, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1834 extractors

YouTube's comments history & live chat, both claim NM28 to be "unsupported browser", which obviously misinformation / false claim by Google, because both of it would work if I simply override the user-agent .

Personally, I don't expect to be able to surf every website properly with UXP browsers. The bloated, modern and totally over-greedy websites simply have to be accessed with other browsers or devices. Since there's a lot of Googlised junk on them, such sites are thrown at my Android (Google) tablet. That works great. Spoken for me only, I don't like the modern web layout. In my opinion, the entire development of websites is going in the completely wrong direction. I would rather focus on fast page loading and compatibility than overloading pages with all kinds of bells and whistles.

Chinese installers are great! Aren't they?

Microsoft Knowledge Base (MKB) and their KB articles For getting information and solving problems in Windows XP, Microsoft Knowledge Base had been an important source for a long time. But unfortunately most KB articles relating to Windows XP were deleted by Microsoft on their servers some years ago. Now we need other sources to get these KB articles. One method is to use a Wayback Machine like archive.org. Here is the link: https://web.archive.org/ Insert the original link of a KB article and in a lot of cases it was already archived in the past. But there are other sources too. Here is the best alternative: https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Microsoft_KB_Archive And this is an offline database with more than 200000 KB articles: https://archive.org/details/MicrosoftKnowledgeBaseArchive200000Articles Good luck in searching KB articles, AstroSkipper

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