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No worries. I like "test" and "benchmark" sites but in the end it is usability that trumps test/benchmark "results". There are some "benchmarks" out there that when you see the "results" you simply have to roll on the floor in laughter. A FF-based browser which is quick and snappy and renders all 500 top-500 sites with ease will score 20,000 but an equally quick and snappy Chrome-based browser which again renders all 500 top-500 sites with ease will score 40,000 on the same exact OS and hardware. "Yeah, right!"...

== Multi-boot Windows 9x with current GNU/Linux == If anyone wants to dual boot older Windows 9x hardware with current GNU/Linux and experiences graphic issues, this works here. Install GNU/Linux system, here Debian-based (Devuan) is used with netinstaller and wired connection. Install Xorg, favourite window manager and correct graphic driver from repository. To clarify hardware install and run 'lshw', example. sudo lshw | less Launch graphics, 'startx' if system boots to text mode with no graphic login manager installed. startx If graphics start with desired resolution stop here, otherwise run 'xrandr' to see what's available. xrandr If 'xrandr' lists desired resolution then use system's GUI to modify resolution, if you have a desktop environment like Xfce, stop here. Otherwise set up a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf file similar to example at the bottom, deleting the 'Modeline' and 'PreferredMode' entries in the 'Monitor' section and fleshing out the 'Screen' section similar to the example snippet below. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1152x864" EndSubSection EndSection To force a resolution not listed by 'xrandr', use the 'cvt' command with your desired resolution parameters to get a 'Modeline' specific to your hardware, example: cvt 1152 864 On this system, above returns: Modeline "1152x864_60.00" 81.75 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 867 871 897 -hsync +vsync Create a basic /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, pasting the 'Modeline', customizing the driver and other entries as desired, example below. Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" Modeline "1152x864_60.00" 81.75 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 867 871 897 -hsync +vsync Option "PreferredMode" "1152x864" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nouveau" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" EndSection Restart graphic mode to test. Note: If you can't start graphic mode at all then use 'vi' or 'nano' file editors from TTY. First try the Vesa driver to get basic graphics then upgrade the driver (subsitute 'nouveau' with 'vesa', max resolution 1024 x 768). Note: Graphics on hardware ~2010 and newer usually just works but this old Windows 9x hardware now requires special attention. There are occasional regressions in GNU/Linux too. Not usually intentional, like Microsoft or Apple, moreso because not many still use, test or bug report this old hardware.

KbdTray Display keyboard layout in the system tray. This utility may be used as standard language bar replacement, which has some bugs on XP (occasionally loses position, increases taskbar height). The language bar should be disabled in "Control Panel" → "Regional and Language Options" → "Languages" → "Details…" → "Language Bar…" → uncheck "Show the Language bar on the desktop" (disabling it via toolbar menu may cause language bar to show again after logout). Download: kbdtray-1.0.7z SysTrayUtil Preserve system tray icon order. Note, that this program doesn't allow to move icons, it only preserves the order! Here are recommended programs to move them: Taskbar Shuffle — Drag taskbar items and tray icons. Shell Tray Info — Display system tray information, move icons using buttons within program's window. Download: systrayutil-1.1.7z WPA Supplicant Manage wireless network connections. WPA/WPA2 supplicant. This program is useful on XP SP1/SP2, which don't support WPA/WPA2. It has supplicant service and GUI utility to manage connections. There are some alternatives, like (probably the most shilled here) Boingo Wireless, but they all are proprietary and have ugly GUI. I was surprised to find that WPA Supplicant was maintained for Windows decades ago, but faced some problems when tried to use it. So, it's not my project, I just added some bug fixes and cosmetic patches. All these patches are included into the archive. Download: wpa-supplicant-0.7.3.7z -------------------------------------------------- I made/modified these programs just for fun. I doubt I'll seriously maintain them, but I thought they might be useful for someone here (it seems to be a pretty large XP users community). There is README.txt file in all archives with further instructions to install programs or build them from the source code (included into the archives). All links are archived on web.archive.org (just in case somebody will want to use these programs in 2030, who knows). I didn't try to use these programs on Windows 2000, but they probably will work.

Page 1, of course. Very heavy. Sorry for doubled response Now, I see in CrowdInspect (it's portable so you could download it and see you too): 360Chrome.exe has two processes (among its many other running processes) that use DNS of yandex.ru and another of front.kp.yandex.net

Never used any non-portable soft , but thanks for the warning . Yet the question remains open . Several members reported inbound traffic , even though I have all "chromecast router" junk disabled.

I had this piece of crap disabled since ages . BTW , your flag is of no use . This is the right one: --load-media-router-component-extension=0 (not my invention , credits to and suggested by @Dixel).

Be cautious. Most other Chrome-based browsers add to your firewall rules for you. This one doesn't do that because we don't use any "installer". I do think what you guys are seeing is present in several other web browsers. I love the vigilance!

Why you " minimize programs to the systray instead of to the task bar ", please?... Tell me please And in CrowdInspect I see too 360Chrome.exe on UDP listening on ALL IPv4 local IP connections oh uh

Not sweeping under the rug. I believe I requested the file in question to be scanned by TWENTY anti-virus programs and that if all TWENTY flagged it, then we have a problem. But only one and my sky isn't falling. I used to use a "portable wrapper" called JauntePE, unsure if MSFN folks are familiar with it, almost everything flagged it as a "suspicious" because it "hooks" onto .exe files. Same goes for several systray utilities I've used over the years to minimize programs to the systray instead of to the task bar.

I get 369/15 in 12 M. But my 12 r 8 tops it for me ==

No , I don't , I can't read russian anyways , I just know how their language sounds , from the times of the yellow vests protests and from my Paris visits. But arcticfoxie said he made his version from the russian repack you're talking about , ain't that true , arcticfoxie ?

We really don't need the anti-Russian rhetoric, folks. This is an international community. Yes, Russia is in the "Top 10" of hackers around the globe - so is China, so is the USA, so is Turkey, so is Poland, so is Brazil, so is India, so is Germany, blah blah blah...

Hi ! I was saying about the executable you checked there , the launcher for this browser was made by russians , not about CrowdInspect.

Thanks for your report! Windows 8.1 on the other hand still works as of this time. (12.1.1 works just fine)

Newer versions of iTunes on Windows 7 won't launch with a missing function in ntdll.dll and dgxi.dll (fixed by using the dgxi.dll from Windows 10) iTunes up to 12.11.3 works on Windows 7 with the version check bypass

In Serpent you could do this: bookmark a duckduckgo page, then menu-> bookmark->right click the duckduckgo item under "recently bookmarked"->properties, this will bring up edit dialogue: Modify as above (you could choose another keyword other than "d"), then you could type "d <query word>" in the address bar.

Exactly so and that´s the reason why StartAllBack will be much better. I also didn´t know that till i tried StartAllBack two days ago for the very first time. OldNewExplorer never had that compatibility and stability right from the beginning. Thanks for that Tihiy.

Now that was reported as OldNewExplorer conflict

it is not compiled in NM releases.

Now well wait until Microsoft will release Windows 12 and start hype it like crazy how it will revolutionize computing forever and is way better than Windows 11 . Then soon after it they will release windows 13 that will be unlucky release resulting MS go bankrupt because it requires quantum computer (that is only to load desktop that will still lag) that are not consumer market and google and others who got one refuses touch MS software on supercomputer . I am afraid Microsoft will jump to rapid release bandwagon and start bumping Windows version way Apple and Google does with IOS/Macos/ChromeOS/Android. F-91W is still best watch ever. It is dirt cheap and does what most new watches fails to, show me what time is it

you can if got support for hardware virtualisation. I have run 64bit devuan linux inside XP using virtualbox

Linus Thorvalds! I think he uses being raised "Finnish" wisely as a reason to be able to speak up more directly. It's all due to the cold weather! You can't afford to be sensitive I guess! For me, problems with graphics cards are the most common reason for a badly performing Linux installation. Some models don't have a good driver at all on Linux. On desktops, you can exchange the graphics card, but on laptops, you might be unlucky with what's built-in. Fortuneatly Live-CDs show problems with the graphics driver beforehand. With all the advantages that Linux has, the graphical performance on the desktop is far off what an old Windows can do. No problem if enough GPU power is there, but we are speaking here about 15-20 year old Windows 98 computers with a dual-boot option. Very important on my low-end computers was the option to disable drawing the window when pulling and dragging it across the screen (which is possible in Xfce for example). The Windows 98 or Windows XP had no performance issues with that option, drawing the window fluently on screen. It's 20 year old stuff, I know, but is it that foolish to expect improvements in modern developments? Okay, it's not all bad: Tabbed browsing in the file manager, sticky windows, mutliple desktops. Xfce on Linux is nice to use, but why the heck does it need so much power compared to Windows XP? @Wunderbar98: What's your experience with the graphical performance? Are you happy with your Linux installations compared to the Windows on the same machines? ...writing these words on a CRT monitor. They are fantastic for making an old computer setup look even more odd. Big monsters. Sounding like blowing up every time they are switched on by their massive button. Shaking the whole electricity grid. Heating in the winter (no energy is wasted). And then the "Shhhhhhhhh" when being switched off, sounding like the waves of the ocean, ending a computer session on a calming note. But unfortuneatly, the LCDs are the more practical choice it looks like! Still, my beauty award goes to the CRTs. Currently, the prices are very low for CRT monitors and you can still get free working scrap when searching for it, but these times will be over soon, when people have cleaned up their basments from these bulky monitors.

webrtc is not enabled in NM28, it is enabled in SP52.

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211009-fae40c10f-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211009-fae40c10f-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20211009-fae40c10f-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20211009-fae40c10f-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1180500 - Update web-platform-tests expected data to revision 87398b8448f699e3e324148795891658f2fa16dd, a=testonly (b8306d55a) - Bug 1180500 - Disable several unstable web-platform-tests tests, a=testonly (022b078ae) - Bug 1169334 - Fix missing braces in Java thread profile; r=mstange (c53f8fbbf) - Bug 1172157 - Save malformed profile JSON to file to help debug. (r=BenWa) (b63d41fb1) - Bug 1167895 - Escape JS engine SPS profile strings to UTF8 properly. (r=djvj) (53d61099c) - Bug 1168265 - Clean up ChunkedJSONWriteFunc. (r=mstange) (fe9fd26fd) - Bug 1171240 - Avoid copies when splicing inside ProfileJSONWriter. (r=mstange) (dd9640548) - Bug 1194131 - Update web-platform-tests expected data to revision b54dddfdcc4761d2f8a892fd783d60353949992d, a=testonly (1b755f73d) (683a3a074) - import change from tenfourfox: - add inetloc and webloc to potentially executable extensions (7363964ad) - #648: M1663836 + update TLDs TZs HSTS (4821d63d2) (da1635889) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1204422 - IonMonkey: MIPS32: Make more MacroAssembler functions can be shared. r=arai (80c0d8b68) - Bug 774364 - Part 3: Move Math.random() to macro assembler. r=sstang,hev,nbp, f=rankov (fd583477e) - Bug 1190454 part 1 - PCCounts use uint64_t instead of a double to count the number of hits. r=evilpie (296eb512b) - Bug 1190454 part 2 - Only compute code coverage of jump targets. r=bhackett (1ba5bb320) - Bug 1190454 part 3 - PCCounts: Collect throw/catch hit counts. r=bhackett (bde4a31b6) - Bug 1190454 part 0 - Remove unnecessary use of AppendArrayJSONMProperties. r=bhackett (de089baf9) - Bug 1189112 - Part 1: Use TraceableVector to simplify tracing of ScriptsAndCountsVector; r=nbp (79f881588) - Bug 1189112 - Part 2: simplify rooting of ScriptsAndCountsVector with PersistentRooted; r=nbp (1b76e8e46) - Bug 1193032 - Part 1: Rename GCRuntime::sliceBudget to defaultTimeBudget; r=jonco (42b59d6b4) - Bug 1193032 - Part 2: Make unlimited SliceBudget initialization explicit; r=ehoogeveen,r=mccr8 (76229de4a) - Bug 1164294 - Implement a linear-time ephemeron marking algorithm, r=terrence, r=jonco (60d4a6791) - Bug 1190454 part 4 - Use mozilla::Vector in js::ScriptCounts. r=bhackett (dda4cd822) - Bug 1190454 part 5 - Update GetPCCountJSON to consider jumpTargets and Throws. r=bhackett (ab0f0d6c4) - Bug 1140059 - Stop leaking mThreadNameFilters in the profiler. (r=mstange) (eaf075fd4) - Bug 1191289 part 1 - Add a JSFriendApi function to produce LCOV information about the current compartment. r=bhackett (c321eebfa) (fae40c10f)

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20211009-ff37858d8-xpmod.7z Win64 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20211009-ff37858d8-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import change from tenfourfox: - add inetloc and webloc to potentially executable extensions (7363964ad) - #648: M1663836 + update TLDs TZs HSTS (4821d63d2) (ff37858d8)

New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20211009-id-f0915f3-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20211009-id-f0915f3-ia-c642e3c-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20211009-f94c0da-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20211009-f94c0da-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20211009-f94c0da-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.4a1.win32-git-20211009-ba47fad4d-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.4a1.win32-git-20211009-ba47fad4d-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.4a1.win64-git-20211009-ba47fad4d-uxp-25114ddf5-xpmod.7z No official UXP changes since my last build. No official Basilisk changes since my last build. No official Pale-Moon changes since my last build. My changes since my last build: - import change from tenfourfox: - #648: M1663836 + update TLDs TZs (4821d63d2) (25114ddf5) * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of now-dead MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. MCP Basilisk/Pale-Moon rev after datecode will be removed later.

@Mr.Scienceman2000, thank you for the advice ! Unfortunately I won't be able to install , because that mobo is acting up ! If I set it to IDE mode , it won't detect HDDs with small size (like 160-250GB) , weirdly enough , 8TB and UP are detected !!! I'm not ready to use an 8TB HDD for win98 , lol. I'll search for another mobo.

@sharicov@gmail.comtry try normal windows setup instead. @Sonic Yes, Ctrl+S works for this option, too.

A free advice from an old school dude : 1- Just buy a dedicated network card [not intel] and this will prevent ME from going online . I can send you a link to a good German store (approx. 5-12 Euro). 2 - Also , you need to disable the onboard intel LAN in your BIOS. 3 - Realx and Enjoy . P.S. Not sure if this trick will still work with the modern systems. I do not have any. My "latest" is from from 2013 and the trick works on it.

i still wear casio digital watch who needs this modern crap

From what I can see there's nothing more going on than a few eye candy changes. In fact, it looks like just another update to Windows 10 that says 11 in a few key places. Win 11 seems to run even the most complex Windows software developed pre-11 without changes. There's nothing terribly wrong with evolution, and certainly compatibility is nice to have, but calling something a major new version when in fact it's just another set of patches is purely marketing. So we can probably just ignore this new moniker without too much trouble. If it's like e.g., Windows 8 they'll move the needle on the look and feel during the various prerelease builds. In a larger sense, everything I've seen tells me that new updates to post-Windows 7 versions just keep getting slower and slower and more and more complex to do the same things. Remember back in the "old days" when it only took less than 30 processes to support an empty desktop? What are we really getting having 150 of them now? Yeah, I know about the 20 or 30 that were added because services were split up. That still leaves what, 90 more? 90! What do we have that's truly new, even though our computers are capable of executing hundreds of times more code? Are they more autonomous from online servers? Are they able to give us more personal service? Oh, wait, I can now plug in headphones and automatically have the sound output switch to them. Whoop whoop! My needs for computing haven't really changed. I was doing reasonable hands-free teleconferencing going back to the beginning of Skype which released, around the time of Windows Vista? What have we really gotten besides bloat to soak up the billions more available CPU cycles and quadrillions more bytes of data storage? -Noel