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We have no way of telling/knowing what portable loaders you used to achieve that, and we have no way of proving/disproving it works or doesn't work in your case, I run this browser with my personally written starter App on Vista, so I don't care about that entries. @AstroSkipper doesn't run fully portable version, there's no reason to accuse a higly respected member of MSFN, and simply a good man, of trolling!

Of course not! But the amount of times we read it, oh boy... Besides, telling it simply makes no sense since it's already publicly known we're on old "insecure" OS. P.S. I want, and always preferred, strictly about the subject posts.

Ethics on this forum doesn't allow to use such references in regards of old OS, MSFN is a home for old OS fans. Probably, you still don't know that? For example DAVE, our respected moderator, uses XP on his daily basis, I use Vista.

Unless you're suggesting that all this is an elaborate ruse, all you need do is watch the vid or ask me. The only loader i'm using is the batch file included with Thorium, the one I'm clicking in the screencap (THORIUM_PORTABLE.bat). It simply starts Thorium with the following flags, thusly: START "" "thorium.exe" --user-data-dir="%~dp0%\USER_DATA" --allow-outdated-plugins --disable-breakpad --disable-encryption --disable-machine-id. Now, I know what you did. You are using the flag --disable-encryption which is unsecure and not recommended. This is a flag which makes Thorium more portable, though. I do not use it.

Registry is there for a couple of main purposes. It includes tracking, logging for devs, surveying the legitimacy of software (trial timers, etc), simplifying police/forensic investigators.

Commercial logos, commercial websites in bio (in both cases) don't count?

It's more of a trend, not a bug, It happens in new Chrome, also.

Wasn't trying to inform, simply to put "--disable-encryption ... is unsecure" in due perspective.

So do i, daily, which says nothing about "XP is insecure and not recommended." being factually incorrect. Apologies if feelings were hurt.

Many issues in Windows are caused by corrupted or missing registry entries. From the very first in the 1990s, I learnt to correct such things. Especially, the installer and uninstaller of that time were often badly programmed and caused problems on a regular base regarding the registry. My Windows XP partition was created from scratch in 2004. It has existed since then without reinstallation only because of my maintenance and corrections. And the registry is particularly affected by this. For 100% portable use of Thorium, I have also backed up its registry entries and would create them if Thorium were to be run on another Windows XP computer.

Ok. Then I'll be a little clearer. When I write something technical or computer-related here, it's certainly not to tell any anecdotes or to troll. I'm happy to leave that to our specialists. Here is a little food for thought. If an application writes values to the registry, it is certainly not doing so to make itself important or to fool the user. Thorium is not a purely portable application. It does what other Chrome browsers do. And recently I had to unfortunately realise that these registry entries play a role. And BTW, they are not stored in the main folder as this version of Thorium has not been made portable. Just that simple. PS: Further information what a portable application is or not can be found in @VistaLover's post here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/186133-thorium/?do=findComment&comment=1267361

I give you a risk-free way to verify my claim [export the key before deleting it, import it if it doesn't reappear]. You respond with a quaint anecdote about your past Thorium woes. Can only assume you're trolling.

The effort to install complex programmes that need to access data in different locations in Windows is probably too great and probably in certain cases not possible, either. I therefore have no problem with certain programmes having to be installed correctly.

Did you specifically try Driver signing bypass dseo13b.exe?

Yes, I was too under the impression we shall be seeing our dear friend @Nokiamies more often!

Signing tools also don't work?

Hi there, I'm installing win2k server in a VMware machine. It booted okay, but when I tried to install VMware Tools, it says Update Rollup 1 is required. The installation is in Chinese, but when I searched M$ official website -- https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=891861, the only available download is English. Where can I get other languages of this rollup (or other workaround like a bunch of standalone patches)? A quick Googling returned nothing. Thanks---

Yes, well, @AstroSkipper likes UXP browsers very much and they don't encrypt their databases.

And you want a medal for it? You think that makes you special?

Isn't this encryption thing Windows only? I'm almost sure you can move Chromium based browser profiles around on Linux by default. Almost because last time I tried it was with Edge around version 94 era and I just replaced the distro (Arch-based -> Debian-based) on the same machine and kept Edge's profile folder from somewhere under .config folder. Likewise, there's no registry on Linux, so how do extensions' settings survive there? No Thorium at hand at the moment, but I tried getting rid of Supermium's registry key, launched the browser, extensions and their settings survived. Just the picture showing the extensions so I don't have to write them down.

Tihiy: not sure if this is something you can fix, but I noticed that the classic Alt+Tab dialog box (shown if you hold down Alt, tap the other Alt key, and then press Tab, or if you set HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer→AltTabSettings to 1) doesn't work any more on 24H2 (Windows 11 Pro 26100.268, Windows Server 2025 26100.560) – the dialog box doesn't appear at all, and Windows instead behaves as if Alt+Esc was pressed. Is this something that could be fixed by StartAllBack?

XP is insecure and not recommended. If not this batch file (Thorium portable), what where you talking about?

Unless you're suggesting that all this is an elaborate ruse, all you need do is watch the vid or ask me. The only loader i'm using is the batch file included with Thorium, the one I'm clicking in the screencap (THORIUM_PORTABLE.bat). It simply starts Thorium with the following flags, thusly: START "" "thorium.exe" --user-data-dir="%~dp0%\USER_DATA" --allow-outdated-plugins --disable-breakpad --disable-encryption --disable-machine-id. As suggested in my previous posts, you have a trivially simple way to verify it works in *your* case: 1. Run THORIUM_PORTABLE.bat & close Thorium, taking note of installed extensions, configuration, and open tabs 2. Delete the Thorium key i delete in the screencap vid 3. Run THORIUM_PORTABLE.bat 4. Observe the key mysteriously restored to the registry & thorium open to its last state.

Due to the regular maintainence of my Windows XP, there is no need to reinstall the OS. It is even faster than in its early days. I did so much to it that even Thorium runs well under Windows XP. I also have a well thought-out image system and can return to a previous state at any time. Even to the very first one.

Another example, they simply include their business model in the account name, and their site in the bio, new (?) form of spam. Recently joined. https://msfn.org/board/profile/441166-pacific-lubrication-consultants/

This PreferenceMACs key is the strange one, extensions' data it holds are all binary, but it's always brought up when profile migrations are brought up. I don't know about registry in general either, I prefer a static set of programs for main Windows install so things don't get deleted constantly from registry. It would be interesting to have some reproducible way to "gunk it up" to make computer slow. There's a lot of snake oil out there for registry, "leaving it alone" works for me, I only mess with it if I know about some user program's setting I want to change or if I want to alter Windows behavior in some specific way. I definitely never went out of the way to block programs from writing their stuff there if that's how they were programmed. I ran NTRegOpt every once in a blue moon, but the impression I got was that in my case fragmentation was always low and not worth the bother. Windows itself (re)writes stuff there all the time, can't say if it really makes things slower with time.

Yes, Windows 10 2015 version already uses a 16 MB partition.

navy seal copypasta And yet, it magically reappears. Not sure why facts and reality misalign with your 38 years of DOS registry experience. And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well. I just don't understand it.

You can assume whatever comes to your mind. I couldn't care less. I have had negative experiences, and that was not so long ago (only a month). Therefore, there cannot and will not be any anecdotes here.

sure. http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/firefox38-tls13-xprtm-vc10hack.7z BTW next is backport NM27 changes to this, as vanilla 38esr doesn't that capable to view modern web.

I know that these settings are not just there for fun. I lost nearly all my installed extensions at the beginning of my tests with Thorium due to these registry settings. I'm not going to play around with it again. I have installed 14 extensions. Not all are enabled, of course. Some of them are permanently enabled and some only on demand.

You are using a different version of Thorium than mine. Yours is an SSE4 release, mine is the SSE2 variant. And why do you have two icons with uBlock Origin in your browser? Strictly according to the motto twice is better?

Oh look! P.S. If not obvious, these exist in USER_DATA folder & are written to registry when Thorium opens. Delete yours (from the registry), see them magically restored next time you open your browser; be amazed

Thorium SSE2 122.0.6261.168 WINXP x32, which is actually the version 122.0.6261.169, stores extension settings in the registry. That you cannot replicate it is unfortunately not my problem. And I don't believe that this version does it only for me. Or do you think I created all these entries by myself just to confuse you? Here is a screenshot:

... A more in-depth analysis of the term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_application A "portable" app installation is also called "stealth" when the portable app is being launched from an external (to the host) storage media (e.g. HDD) but when the app is exited and the media detached from the host computer, NO TRACE whatsoever related to the app is left on the host's file system and registry; I guess you can also call the app "stealth" even when "installed" on an internal (host) disk, when it doesn't leave any of its 1. associated files outside of its assigned "portable installation" directory 2. associated registry keys on the host OS once exited... Many apps can be made "portable", but it takes a lot of effort to additionally make them "stealth"; sometimes, that isn't possible at all, even with app virtualisation (e.g. Microsoft Office and most of the Adobe Suites); in those difficult cases , the application is very complexly intertwined with the OS it runs on ...

I cannot replicate what you are seeing, Astro. This could be YOUR Thorium and not "everybody's" Thorium. Even without my "loader", I can carry my EXTENSIONS, settings and all!, from one computer to another - even to one that has NEVER had Thorium on it and does NOT have Thorium's registry-writes. You just might be "adamant" about something that is only true for you. Again, even without my "loader", I cannot replicate your notion that extensions are tied to registry-writes. You keep pounding the table with this, over and over. I've asked for extension examples in the past and you declined to provide, claiming it is with all extension. Again, I cannot replicate. This may be YOUR profile and yours ALONE. Or just ONE of your extensions and you won't reveal that to us for us to verify. I cannot replicate your claim.

But without the extensions' settings. They are stored in the registry.

1. 32 GB is too small for a retail SKU IMO. The smallest (with newest) OS I have used is a 40 GB VM with Server 2008 R2. For that small size, you would use either an Embedded SKU or an older OS like Vista or XP. Or perhaps a non-Windows product. 2. Dell Recovery DVD for Windows 7 should install fine on another brand, but it won't activate on a non-Dell system. 3. In either case, you can attempt to activate with the old key, or a key from the shop, but you may have to use Telephone Activation (Slui 4) in both cases. You won't know until you try. 4. You can certainly run a small size hypervisor on a system. I don't know the names of any of those options, I've only use ESXi and Hyper-V. You can also look into VDI type or terminal setups. Do not mention the name of any warez on this forum. This includes modified Windows versions that are able to be downloaded from archive.org.

Those two look also like the whole purpose of the accounts creation is far from technical aspects. https://msfn.org/board/profile/441008-c-care-preschool/ https://msfn.org/board/profile/440995-mike-lund-painting/

trying to import NSS 3.42 Beta in this, it builds but CORS seems to be broken and it refuses to load many https sites like ddg. EDIT: the problem is not in NSS, but 38esr's HTTP/2 encoding is too old. EDIT2: changes pushed. https://github.com/roytam1/firefox38-vc2010 and works even on a 486: binaries for testing: original NSS from 38esr: http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/firefox-38.8.0-vc10-nss319.7z updated NSS from retrozilla (TLS 1.2): http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/firefox-38.8.0-vc10-nss321.7z updated NSS for TLS 1.3: http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/firefox-38.8.0-vc10-tls13.7z

So, long time no update on Browser support for Windows 8(.1) I just tested the latest versions of Firefox (edited with CFF Explorer) and Opera (with DWrite.dll from W10) and that's what I found out: - Firefox 128 Nightly works on Windows 8.1. This version is going to be the next ESR branch, which means that we will be able to browse the web safely for another year (EOL: August 2025) without the need of an Extended Kernel what so ever EOL was Firefox 115 Proof: imgur.com/a/firefox-128-windows-8-1-GSvRMpu - Opera 112 (based on Chromium 125) works on Windows 8.1: Opera isn't as leightweight as it was anymore. I'm not a fan of that browser, however it still works with the same method that was already discussed a year ago (--no-sandbox). I don't think any other Chromium based browser is still working on 8.1. In fact, when it comes to Chromium, Windows 7 users are definitly having an advantage with VxKex. They can install the latest Chrome or any Chromium Embedded Framework Programs (e.g Spotify) without disabling the sandbox. EOL was Opera 95 Proof: imgur.com/a/opera-112-windows-8-1-wOrVyOx