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Couple interesting/related articles: The Website Obesity Crisis Is software getting worse?

Make sure you have Enabled=1 and BuildNumber=7600 added and not FirefoxFix, as FirefoxFix has been removed since June last year. You also should make sure you're pointing at the right directory, see this to understand what I mean. (but remember to disregard FirefoxFix from that link)

This is the wrong link as it points to the meaning of "pH" in chemistry... Here is the right one -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_(disambiguation). @AstroSkipper under "Arts and media" -> article 3. kind regards soggi

actually there are a lot more win 7 users 3 years after EOL than there were XP users back then. according to statcounter.com, win 7 has a market share of 9.55% as of jan 2023 while XP was only at 5.26% in april 2017. I guess as long as Firefox still gets updates for win 7, it is simply not necessary to make an effort in getting newer builds of chromium to run on win 7.

... Well , if only members here had been following more closely the recent exchange between UCyborg and me, and, more importantly, if link(s) to the official Pale Moon forum had been actually clicked on, then there would have been no room left for disambiguation of the abbreviation "PH" UCyborg used in his reply to me : ... thus: ... It appears (drawing from a past recollection of mine) that the "crowd" here is hesitant to click links pointing to MCP's forum, for whatever "deserved" or "undeserved" reasons ...

Maybe my last post (half-joke, half-serious) was too far away from the previous one. It was in plain sight if you put them together. Funny how discussion on that particular website has lead to correction of a rather silly (but in the context of that website functionality on UXP still seemingly more or less unrelated) defect (regression) in the UXP platform. Edit: Hey, I did post about the mentioned "Software disenchantment" post back in October 2019! https://msfn.org/board/topic/180302-software-disenchantment/

Ive found that just over last year they joined eclectboard and have been posting over there https://forum.eclectic4un.me/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=109 alot of the big members of old from here are all on there as well as @WinClient5270

I'm wondering the same.

Glad to know this! Original poster OldAstroLandscapeGuy wrote: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP· 4d ago Second try over the past 2 years to get this right :-) Finally had clear skies here in So Cal and was able to get out and shoot my favorite part of the milkyway arch, the Winter part!! Equipment: Canon Ra, Tamron 35mm f1.4, iOptron SkyTracker Pro, Mecha Auto Pano Head, good tripod. Sky: 2 rows, 9 positions (shot 4x @ each position) each image ISO3200, F2, 65 Seconds Foreground: 1 row f4 x 9 positions @ ISO2000, 4 seconds each (cars drive by for lighting :-)) All images pre processed in LR, sky images then stacked in Sequator for each panel. Sky panels and foregrounds panels brought into PTGui for stitching the sky and foregorund panoramas. The 2 panos where then brought into PS for to combine into one image and final touches made... Hope you enjoy it! CW - A truly breathtaking photography work, this Winter Milkyway Arch over Red Rock Canyon, CA ! - so another work by this same OldAstroLandscapeGuy, you could use this vertical picture in your phone: Orion over the Trona Pinnacles Author's comment: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP·4d ago Finally got out to shoot the Winter Milkyway. This image is a combination of 60 x 65 second images stacked images for the sky and 6 images across for the foreground (while the moon was setting) all shot with an Astronomy Modified Canon camera and a 50mm Canon f1.2 lens on a star tracking mount (so no star trails). It was a REALLY beautiful night :-) Thanks for looking! CW Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathValleyNP/comments/10u037v/orion_over_the_trona_pinnacles/ His reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/user/OldAstroLandscapeGuy/

Because it's coupled in with the same context of YouTube.

Its 9PM on the dot and sorry guys I have to go -- sending all my love to you and find the white light and wrap yourself in it and then pass it along, the universe if full of love but its being overshadowed by darkness. Please use your mental firewall and filter out the bad ugly black BS. All the very best to you. See you tomorrow and sorry I missed you @legacyfan and @msfntor today but was a bit strange. I will report how things went and I can't chicken out sadly. Salvatore :)

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/02/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html Chrome 110 is released... any news for patching for 7? ............................

Were you unhappy over there? I never read over there all that much even. Good you can focus more time on here.

Great!

my account on wincert is now completely deleted (and my eclipse account deactivated) and will focus more on msfn

Quake expert: 'The worst kind of earthquake' Sky News 209,505 views Feb 6, 2023 Doom Tech | USA's earthquake weapon, Nikola Tesla's design, HAARP truth: conspiracy theory decoded editorji 128,953 views Jul 24, 2022

“I have decided to stick to love; hate is too great a burden to bear.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.

I was thinking of that as well. My answer to this is: Nope.

Theoretically it could also be "PistonHeads" (article 1 under "Arts and media") but none of the others as they don't make any sense in connection with UXP browsers. Hmmmmm... kind regards soggi

How did you know it's that one?

It's definitely not the negative, decadic logarithm of the concentration of hydrogen ions in a solution. But very funny, indeed!

https://media.tenor.com/o39EarauyJYAAAAC/palm-face.gif

you might be dealing with pump failure, so changing that to something new should be a priority (you can get an air cooler like the noctua nh d14 or 15 or even a coolermaster V8, the original one, that's what I use on an OC'ed QX9650 to 4Ghz and the max I saw was 87C while running the linpack "test" from OCCT which is pushing even harder than prime95)

ALX @alx BREAKING: Massive outages reported across multiple websites and apps — it’s not just Twitter 11:56 PM · Feb 8, 2023 · 2.3M Views BREAKING: YouTube joins the list of websites and apps currently experiencing issues "Not gonna lie, I was taking a nap... everything seems fine to me now."

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that's the some problem I'm having (with liking posts)

Now also got the download section to work, short version of the settings pages also, VPN works. @win32,the full version of settings still crashes. Otherwise the browser is pretty much stable and usable, since the flags section is available. And it is very fast, even on the ancient system from 2009.

I don't do plain chrome patching, not interested in it, sorry. I mostly patch Opera and similar. But I sent the instructions on what needs to be done to the creator of the ex-kernel for Vista @win32, and it will be implemented in the new kernel, so you all will be able to use the new Opera and Chrome. From what I see, no one's gonna do anything for windows 7.There's only talk, talk and talk.

no its not opensource and vista ExKernel is to nt 6.1 version so its to windows 7 changing that will be hard becouse it dont work like you are going to shell32.dl and change minor version to 1 or 0 if windows 10

Sad.

I'm fine. And you, XPerceniol?

Sup, Mina? How are you?

Hello.

Hi everyone

my new computer is out for delivery and should be here from the 14-16 (from canada)

What would you expect? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079470/quotes/qt0471984 jaclaz

Don't freakin' spam this thread with non-existent crap and absolutely off-topic vapourware.

I don't see many posting of the universe from you anymore?!

I don't think you understand the complexity of such a thing, besides that, I also don't think that win32 is going to let us down in the near future

Windows 8 Extended Kernel, based on Windows 10 build 9888, transformed to Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, which you can run apps which is compatible with Windows 10 or above on Windows 8.x.

I know the building ExKernel is hard (and i wanna help that much i can) but running windows 10 apps is even possible on Vista? more and more apps need secure boot or its just UWP so doing that needs a lot of work

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20230204-8a2a9d0991-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20230204-8a2a9d0991-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20230204-8a2a9d0991-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20230204-8a2a9d0991-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1173364 - support ARIA table and cell roles, r=marcoz (c6f9fc891e) - Bug 1205318 - make aria-owns loop alg more sophisticated, r=yzen (d287b1e41c) - Bug 1205476 - crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList(), r=smaug (bf920abdd3) - Bug 1205476 - crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList(), part3, r=davidb (675c3a0ee2) - Bug 1205476 - crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList, part2, r=davidb (a7cd835169) - Bug 1186786 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in accessible/ with iterators. r=tbsaunde. (172fcbe18f) - Bug 1219299 - rework aria-owns implementation, r=yzen (c297a84b41) - Bug 1219744 - no child_of/parent_of relations for aria-owns, r=yzen (38ea8be268) - Bug 1205341 - get rid of aria-owns provided relations, part1: remove ARIA combobox special support (bug 819273 backout), r=yzen (0ca03a27bd) - Bug 1219743 - remove special ARIA owns support for ARIA menus, r=yzen (64468fdfd1) - Bug 1200595 - Introduce TextureData and implement it for X11. r=mattwoodrow, Bas, sotaro (2e6bc3f02c) - Bug 1200595 - Buffer TextureData implementation. r=mattwoodrow (1cb3ffd937) - Bug 1227415 - Fix copy buffer size r=jolin (344130daec) - Bug 1200595 - Gralloc TextureData implementation. r=sotaro (a0726233ca) - Bug 1205725 - Add basic SidebandStream handling to HwcComposer2D r=mwu,nical (42bea59a5f) - namespace (ab69730d53) - Bug 1194775 - Paper over a crash in ContentClient. r=Bas (998051cee4) - minor (c24c0b069d) - Bug 1197315 - remove PR_snprintf calls in gfx/; r=froydnj (f153fed9c8) - Bug 1157664 - Initialize mozilla::layers::FPSCOUNTER::mIteratorIndex. r=nical (cf5d2203ee) - Bug 1157663 - Init mMap in the constructor to avoid half initialized structures. r=nical (d972306493) - Bug 1167370: Check for Map() call failing. r=bas (707eda52ff) - Bug 1221276 - Don't crash if we don't have a surface. r=nical (c53141ea3d) - Bug 1219230 - Use the valid region for determining buffer size instead of the visible region. r=mstange (f2d4783eef) - Pass the correct moz2d backend in CanvasClients. (bug 1212499, r=mattwoodrow) (c16688afbb) - Bug 1179987 - Simplify unlocking of tiled texture hosts. r=nical (781200f702) - Bug 1170189 - Fix tiling crash on Linux. r=jrmuizel (879bbfb506) - Bug 1170189 - fix a comment in the tiling code. r=BenWa (62b47f1bbd) - Bug 1179987 - Make tiled TextureSource recycling based on pointer comparisons rather than trying to do it geometrically. r=nical (7bde534929) - Bug 1189710 - Use correct offset for LayerRenderState in TiledContentHost. r=jrmuizel (cb93c2f98a) - Bug 1215050 - Make layerscope support TiledPaintedLayer when using HWC. r=mattwoodrow, r=cjku (6bffac30f8) - Bug 1186208 - Fix crash when tiling is enabled on linux. r=mattwoodrow (b2f2c85734) - Bug 1197713 - Add missing gfxPrefs.h include to TiledContentHost.cpp. r=nical (22bce4e071) - Bug 1143575. Async image invalidation does not necessarily need to invalidate the layer; LayerTreeInvalidation will do that for us. r=mattwoodrow (a6144b7127) - Bug 1219529 - Don't attempt to deallocate shmems after the ipdl protocol is shut down. r=sotaro (3bb89ef36e) - Bug 1143575. Add assertion for diagnostic purposes. r=nical (e4944dd72f) - Bug 1202175 - Guard GLX-specific call in SurfaceDescriptorX11. r=jgilbert (167a4aa49b) - Bug 1132528 - Handle non existent key r=nical (6c12df1446) - Bug 1137151: Marked destructor of |GrallocReporter| as protected, r=jmuizelaar (57605c4472) - Bug 1145389 - Add gralloc allocation requet size check r=nical (47c6065148) - Bug 1181197 - Fix null dereference in SharedPlanarYCbCrImage destructor. r=jgilbert (3f8c390a6f) - Bug 1195110 - Check if GLContext is destroyed before freeing resources in CompositingRenderTargetOGL. r=jrmuizel (8eac603d84) - bug 1178956 - Specify precision in OGLShaderProgram.cpp to fix compositor on iOS. r=kip (daa6d9db20) - Bug 1186725 - InitTextures should check if LockRect() returns an error, r=mattwoodrow (bc87f908a7) - Bug 1170143 - Add some error checks around the creation of dxgi ycbcrvideo frames. r=Bas (c96e4d9e79) - Bug 1170143 - Build fix. r=me (a9d0064bc3) - Bug 1202700 - Use d3d9 device to upload YCbCr surfaces on the client side if possible. r=Bas (3ccd0c68f5) - Bug 1199361 - Add texture memory reporters for YCbCr TextureClients. r=jrmuizel (723e9d4b10) - bug 1183967 - fixup correct case of mfidl.h (e9abd04709) - Bug 1133007 - followup - make CreateServerSocketRunnable's constructor explicit; r=bustage (5de0ec7900) - Bug 1195653 - Part1.1: Dump SecondaryEffects (EffectTypes::MASK) on Layerscope viewer. r=dglastonbury (v2, carry r+) (a6736ad381) - Bug 1195653 - Part1.2: Use sSentTextureIds instead of sTextureIdList and move HasTextureIdBeenSent into SendTextureSource. r=dglastonbury (v3, carry r+) (7e0b14bca6) - Bug 1195653 - Part1.3: Add isMask attribute field to LayerScopePacket.proto. r=dglastonbury (v2, carry r+) (510e50e09a) - Bug 1195653 - Part1.4: Generated file diffs from patched LayerScopePacket.proto. r=dglastonbury (v1, carry r+) (f1824afcb3) - Bug 1195653 - Part1.5: Send isMask info to LayerScope viewer by TexturePacket. r=dglastonbury (v3) (1722e5e6fe) - Bug 1205521 - Part1: (v3) Add texture/mask attribute fields in LayerScopePacket.proto. r=dglastonbury (0cca15f8f5) - Bug 1205521 - Part2: (v3) Generated file diffs from patched LayerScopePacket.proto. r=dglastonbury (6253724bcf) - Bug 1205521 - Part3: (v3) Dump texture/mask attributes on layerscope viewer. r=dglastonbury (31d346bad1) - Bug 1205521 - Part4: (v2) Align LayerScopePacket to fit changes in Bug 1211324. r=dglastonbury (712da0fe9c) - Bug 1177023 - Log the IsRootContent flag when dumping framemetrics. r=botond (9bea51f318) - Bug 1153724 - Only assert if the size was reasonable to start. r=mchang (c3d61bbee1) - namespace (edcce0a0b3) - Bug 1195857: Make nsPresContext::HasAuthorSpecifiedRules()'s arg 'const', to remove need for const_cast in callers. r=jwatt (274fe66dca) - Bug 1182414, part 1 - Fix printing crash with range input controls. r=dholbert (352a408a83) - Bug 1182414, part 2 - Add printing crash test. r=dholbert (0fc9bd4529) - Bug 1099103 - Prevent numbers input using a grouping separator from being mis-processed as if the separator was a decimal separator. r=dholbert (90276c2f6b) - Bug 1157142 - Support logical (inline/block) in addition to physical orientation for the <input type=range> element; make inline the default behavior so that range sliders respect writing mode. r=jwatt (2ec37cbba8) (89d38b5d7a) - some download library code fixes (f3443827c3) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1196785 - Alphabetically sort redirected about:pages. r=jst (ba0f254ae5) - Bug 1196785 - Make the common category style work in HTML. r=jaws (09b3f854e4) - Bug 1219494 - Part 1. TextureD3D11 and gfxDevCrash instead of MOZ_CRASH where appropriate. r=mchang (2ba6492c83) - Bug 1195531 - Don't discard d3d11 textures when we move the TextureSource to a new compositor. r=jrmuizel,nical (a4b9674552) - Bug 1176570 - Make sure all shared texture handles are opened correctly before attempting to use them. r=jrmuizel (75856f47a0) - misspatch Bug 1145513 (f4e6e6c52a) - Null-check D3D10 devices in a few places. (bug 1225645, r=bas) (2f7372a29d) - Bug 1200595 - D3D11 TextureData implementation. r=Bas (8935487dae) - Bug 1216366: Ensure D3D11 uploads the entire surface the first time for component alpha textures. r=nical (789985252d) - Bug 1194335. Disable partial present on Nvidia hardware. r=bas (3da45b4ce9) - Bug 1167326, fix up VR distortion constant buffer; r=bas (396b34e5da) - Bug 1204922 - Part 3. Report failed before HandleError call. r=bas (4f8ca8b0d6) - Fail gracefully when we can't get a texture sync handle. (bug 1207665 part 4, r=bas,vladan) (d8cbab3307) - Bug 1144136. Remove unneeded Flush() from D3D11 compositor. r=bas (8f49efa0aa) - Bug 1163840 - Lazy-init blocker stack in AsyncShutdown to save startup time; r=Yoric (89f728be0f) - Bug 1213280 - fix OSX font selection under 10.11. r=jfkthame (a5c21cacb0) - Bug 1167284 - implement localized name lookup for fontconfig font families. r=karlt (098cb7067e) - Bug 1173260 - support multiple families for generics. r=heycam (19bab2c23d) - Bug 1163487 - sniff LANGUAGE when determining language for lang group. r=karlt (207283f74d) - Bug 1224965 p1 - add pref for max substitutions for generics under fontconfig. r=m_kato (b64c53e636) - Bug 1224965 p2 - tweak the handling of generic substitutions. r=karlt (a5c2688808) - First version of patch 1469116, this helps fix patch 1209812 without skia. (dd570d1e71) (8a2a9d0991)

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #1382 - Remove incorrect assertion. (8f3badf88) - No issue - bump default platform UA compatibility mode to 102.0 (d89f4e145) - [xpcom] remove incorrect assertion. (8bf892d72) - Issue #2083 - Part 1: Make RegExpShared a GC thing. (3796c7c1e) - Issue #2083 - Part 2: Remove use of RegExpGuard. (d163d08cb) - Issue #2083 - Part 3: Fix RegExpShared rooting hazards now it's a GC thing. (2ac60a27c) - Issue #2083 - Part 4: Give RegExpShared a finalizer. (9824659d3) - Issue #2083 - Part 5: Fix memory leak in RegExpObject. (b7e453086) - Revert "Issue #1382 - RegExpShared::groupsTemplate_ cannot be a GCPtr since RegExpShared is managed by C++" (233802c9a) - Issue #2089 - Shrink Promise instances from 8 to 4 slots by moving debug information to an external object (ed8af362b) - Issue #2089 - Only create result Promises in Promise#then and Promise#catch if it's used or the creation is otherwise observable (6e2201d3a) - Issue #2089 - Turn AsyncGeneratorResumeNext recursion into iteration to avoid stack overflow (55eacd43a) - Issue #2089 - Optimize Promise.then and Promise.all/race with default resolving functions (9744b0c2b) - Issue #2089 - Don't use BlockOnPromise fast path with non-default resolving functions, combine default resolving functions flags (ee395231d) - Issue #2089 - Improve Runtime perf of Promises (1fd51e14f) - Issue #2089 - Add a PromiseCapability struct, directly initialize dense elements in PerformPromiseAll using NewbornArrayPush (c0b1bf7e1) - Issue #2089 - Create a shared helper for PerformPromiseRace, PerformPromiseAll and PerformPromiseAllSettled (5ff7a51da) - Issue #2089 - Further runtime perf improvements for PromiseState (078daa705) - Issue #2089 - Report unhandled rejection for optimized away promise (a215929a3) - Issue #2083 - Follow-up: RegExpShared::source should be a GCPtr. (22dc363c3) - Issue #2099 - Remove unnecessary cast in GeneratorObject::suspend's do loop. (10ef0da5a) - Issue #2089 - Add cache for Promise property lookups (92906d4da) - Issue #2089 - Move ErrorObject parts from jsexn.cpp to ErrorObject.cpp (209c8e06a) - Issue #2089 - Implement AggregateError (61c99bf6c) - Issue #2089 - Rename shared Promise combinator functions, with helpers for element functions (9fc50a992) - Issue #2089 - Implement the Promise.any combinator (f75e9d944) - Issue #2103 - Fix typo in RegExp Parser (8d3f23ed0) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - reverting rev 22dc363c and 233802c9 for now since I got a crash in destructor of RegExpShared. (7faa37b7d) - revert last rev (7faa37b7) and revert rev b7e45308 and 9824659d instead. (4475b2d9f) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Hello @roytam1! Even though there are members here who don't appreciate weekly updates of your browsers, I would like to thank you for your regular browser releases, the time you spend on them and your enthusiasm. You maintain so many projects with an incredible continuity that is quite impressive. New Moon 28 and Serpent are my main browsers in Windows XP. And they even work with YouTube on older computers, where 360Chrome is a total failure. Many thanks for that!

@NotHereToPlayGames Reducing runtime memory in Windows 8 https://web.archive.org/web/20170918122254/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/

I would prefer an implementation of UWP for older Windows.

8.1 is not a bad OS. But: - The UI lag we have and know in w10 right now, started with 8.1 why? Cause new DPI improvements, new Virtual GPU memory pagination and other new features were introduced with this OS with the introduction of WDDM 1.3. do you remember "Windows Blue" ? WDDM 1.2 ( Windows 8.0 ) it's the best WDDM version. You can try Windows 8,0 on all hardware (only requirement is WDDM drivers) and it will improve any Windows XP, Vista and 7 machine (all are good OSes, well.. vista sp2 I mean). You won't have this improvement when you install Windows 8.1 on the same old hardware. The more memory you use on Windows 8.1 the more you will notice how laggy the UI can be. Try it yourself. I have nothing against Windows 8.1, 7, XP or Vista. I tried them all, and I love XP. But after I tried w10 RTM, Windows 10 beta builds on modern hardware (less lag than RTM or 1511 or anything after >1607) and all other Windows 10 builds, as you can see in the following link, I can confirm Windows 8.0 makes a difference on every hardware I tried, it's the last Windows you can decently run on old WDDM compatible hardware and the fastest experience on modern hardware. Start button isn't relevant for me, why? You can run explorer.exe from Windows 7 on w8,0 and you'll have the start button and the start menu or you can install a million alternatives to get start button and menu working on w8.0. The really only interesting part it's the kernel, the virtual memory pagination, the memory management, the WDDM version 1.2 (you can also install some 8.1 gpu drivers on it) and of course the UI lag. In other words, for me Windows 8.0 it's the new Windows XP. All software work on 8.0, no incompatibilities. Just click and run like the good old school windows 9x and 2k and xp and 2k3. It's like Windows 7 but with native uefi support, dwm improvements, memory improvements and less lag than 8.1 or 10. Windows 8.0 it's more like 7. Windows 8.1 it's more like 10. Why? Cause 8.1 loves memory like 10. Anyway you can run Windows 10 1511 on some old hardware from 2008 era and you'll have a better experience playing browser videos, youtube... than you'll have on 7,8.0 or 8.1. it's not all bad, it has a really interesting process, memory and cpu management... but again the more memory you use the more lag you'll have on the UI cause it has WDDM 2.0. This never happens on w8.0 and when you have lot of memory used on 8.0, you can use standby memory cleaner and memreduct and all will be free in seconds like when Windows started. All this comment is based on years of experience. I use windows since 3.1, I spend tons of hours in 95, 98, ME, XP and 2k3. And considering the resources you need these days to run modern software, I get the best and fastest experience in Windows 8.0. both 8.0 and 8.1 are great OSes. but less is more and I can't find the simplicity of 8.0 on 8.1. modern windows 10 UI lag started with 8.1, this is why I love WDDM 1.2 and 8.0 I tried 8.1 and 8.0 on netbooks (atoms, celerons...), powerful desktops, i3, i5, i7, dedicated gpus, integrated gpus... and I always ended using 8.0 having the best experience. better than xp, vista and 7. you will end having the best of an era with windows 8.0: I mean the best of 9x, 2k, xp, 2k3, vista and 7. And of course, I really don't believe the GUI lag of these OSes >10 are caused by less powerful hardware. It's all about how the OS works. If you don't believe think how fast Windows 95 and 98 worked without tons of RAM and SSDs and resources here and there. Even Windows 2000 with the kernel extension shows us how all these modern windows versions are really laggy and feels like a beta OSes. Windows 10/11 it's now like a videogame you need to check first if you have all the minimum resources to play it. To run what or to do what? And all these Metro Apps running in background... it's like a webpage... lot of colours, animations... Click here to remember what a real OS it is. Or here Long live windows 8.0. The best. And why it's better than Windows 7 ? Long story short. Article about 8.0 wrote while MS was finishing the development of Windows 8 RTM release date: https://web.archive.org/web/20170918122254/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/ Yes it's the ONLY windows version that needs less memory than it's predecessor.

Windows 8.0 6.2.9200 is the best Windows with WDDM 1.2. I'm interested in this too since it's also possible to install Net Framework 4.8 on Server 2012 (same kernel as 8.0) and also PowerShell version 5.1

Windows 8 is End-of-Support on 2016 but 8.1 is End-of-Support on 2023

Windows 8.1 kinda need them... it's just less than a year the EOL would come... and Windows 8.1 it's not a major success and app dev could discontinued app right away..