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Couple interesting/related articles: The Website Obesity Crisis Is software getting worse?

Make sure you have Enabled=1 and BuildNumber=7600 added and not FirefoxFix, as FirefoxFix has been removed since June last year. You also should make sure you're pointing at the right directory, see this to understand what I mean. (but remember to disregard FirefoxFix from that link)

This is the wrong link as it points to the meaning of "pH" in chemistry... Here is the right one -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_(disambiguation). @AstroSkipper under "Arts and media" -> article 3. kind regards soggi

actually there are a lot more win 7 users 3 years after EOL than there were XP users back then. according to statcounter.com, win 7 has a market share of 9.55% as of jan 2023 while XP was only at 5.26% in april 2017. I guess as long as Firefox still gets updates for win 7, it is simply not necessary to make an effort in getting newer builds of chromium to run on win 7.

... Well , if only members here had been following more closely the recent exchange between UCyborg and me, and, more importantly, if link(s) to the official Pale Moon forum had been actually clicked on, then there would have been no room left for disambiguation of the abbreviation "PH" UCyborg used in his reply to me : ... thus: ... It appears (drawing from a past recollection of mine) that the "crowd" here is hesitant to click links pointing to MCP's forum, for whatever "deserved" or "undeserved" reasons ...

Maybe my last post (half-joke, half-serious) was too far away from the previous one. It was in plain sight if you put them together. Funny how discussion on that particular website has lead to correction of a rather silly (but in the context of that website functionality on UXP still seemingly more or less unrelated) defect (regression) in the UXP platform. Edit: Hey, I did post about the mentioned "Software disenchantment" post back in October 2019! https://msfn.org/board/topic/180302-software-disenchantment/

Ive found that just over last year they joined eclectboard and have been posting over there https://forum.eclectic4un.me/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=109 alot of the big members of old from here are all on there as well as @WinClient5270

I'm wondering the same.

Glad to know this! Original poster OldAstroLandscapeGuy wrote: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP· 4d ago Second try over the past 2 years to get this right :-) Finally had clear skies here in So Cal and was able to get out and shoot my favorite part of the milkyway arch, the Winter part!! Equipment: Canon Ra, Tamron 35mm f1.4, iOptron SkyTracker Pro, Mecha Auto Pano Head, good tripod. Sky: 2 rows, 9 positions (shot 4x @ each position) each image ISO3200, F2, 65 Seconds Foreground: 1 row f4 x 9 positions @ ISO2000, 4 seconds each (cars drive by for lighting :-)) All images pre processed in LR, sky images then stacked in Sequator for each panel. Sky panels and foregrounds panels brought into PTGui for stitching the sky and foregorund panoramas. The 2 panos where then brought into PS for to combine into one image and final touches made... Hope you enjoy it! CW - A truly breathtaking photography work, this Winter Milkyway Arch over Red Rock Canyon, CA ! - so another work by this same OldAstroLandscapeGuy, you could use this vertical picture in your phone: Orion over the Trona Pinnacles Author's comment: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP·4d ago Finally got out to shoot the Winter Milkyway. This image is a combination of 60 x 65 second images stacked images for the sky and 6 images across for the foreground (while the moon was setting) all shot with an Astronomy Modified Canon camera and a 50mm Canon f1.2 lens on a star tracking mount (so no star trails). It was a REALLY beautiful night :-) Thanks for looking! CW Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathValleyNP/comments/10u037v/orion_over_the_trona_pinnacles/ His reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/user/OldAstroLandscapeGuy/

Because it's coupled in with the same context of YouTube.

Its 9PM on the dot and sorry guys I have to go -- sending all my love to you and find the white light and wrap yourself in it and then pass it along, the universe if full of love but its being overshadowed by darkness. Please use your mental firewall and filter out the bad ugly black BS. All the very best to you. See you tomorrow and sorry I missed you @legacyfan and @msfntor today but was a bit strange. I will report how things went and I can't chicken out sadly. Salvatore :)

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/02/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html Chrome 110 is released... any news for patching for 7? ............................

I miss him as well as a few others like something like science man or close to that username.

This video is wrong. If it were the Longhorn kernel booting up, you would see the Longhorn logo appear instead of the XP one, as the bitmaps are stored in ntoskrnl. Also, other kernel mode system components would be incompatible. NTDLL would be incompatible due to a change in syscalls between 2600.5512 and 4074. XP still boots at all, because it does not actually boot from a kernel named ntoskrnl.exe; in this case, the user also has a file named ntkrnlpa.exe in their system32 folder. This is a variant of ntoskrnl for single-processor systems that support PAE. The user would have needed to change boot.ini to boot from ntoskrnl to actually try using this kernel. And it would probably fail early on due to incompatibilities with the HAL and the like. But I think you could get a DWM-type experience with XPDM if someone did a lot of hooking work to capture each window, seize the borders and captions, create bitmaps of window contents and "play" around with them to make animations, etc.

Can't believe that was over 10 years ago.

Kingston KC3000Fastest SSD, I'd choose it for myself. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html

Sorry not sure I understood correctly, your new (?) computer needs to be fixed already ? And it hasn't even arrived ? I'd better save up for a decent GPU than SSD.

does anyone know what happened to @Win-10-Hater? I was really good friends with them until around the time I disappeared from here and once I finally came back they had quit the forum does anyone know what ever happened to them?

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Very beautiful pics and I'm using the 2nd one as my new wallpaper. Very nice to see something to detox from a toxic society we live in full of hate and discontent. I'm doing very well today.

Thanks. I'm afraid not.

Going out for a walk as this was the first day in over 2 weeks since I've been out and the fresh air felt great and I feel much better today. Hi everyone

I was a bit confused, too. I am German, and English is not my native language, of course. When I read this comment, I thought PH is an abbreviation for "people here". But then, and only if I'm right, shouldn't it actually read "When PH stop working"?

Unfortunately (or fortunately ? yeah, I think fortunately!) I don't use firefox, but if you scroll back, it was already explained.

ALX @alx 7h UPDATE: This should be fixed Not sure if a known issue or not but after Twitter came back online many users, myself included, have been unable to follow accounts and are getting a “Limit Reached” message. cc: @ElonMusk @TwitterSupport Here: https://twitter.com/alx/status/1623563902431776768 Ah, here we are with our "likes and upvotes" problem!..

ALX @alx BREAKING: Massive outages reported across multiple websites and apps — it’s not just Twitter 11:56 PM · Feb 8, 2023 · 2.3M Views BREAKING: YouTube joins the list of websites and apps currently experiencing issues "Not gonna lie, I was taking a nap... everything seems fine to me now."

CELESTIAL THRONE - Mangart saddle, Slovenia (EU) Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LandscapeAstro/comments/ogxc9v/celestial_throne_mangart_saddle_slovenia_eu/ Winter Milkyway Arch over Red Rock Canyon, CA Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LandscapeAstro/comments/10tqa1j/winter_milkyway_arch_over_red_rock_canyon_ca/ LONELY SPECK - How to Photograph the Milky Way – Astrophotography Tutorials, Tools, Gear + Inspiration - LARGE FORMAT ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY PANORAMAS: https://www.lonelyspeck.com/how-to-shoot-large-format-astrophotography-panoramas/ JUST SPACE - A panorama of the Milky Way from 12,000ft at Buckskin Pass, Colorado Here: https://just--space.tumblr.com/post/154945333457/a-panorama-of-the-milky-way-from-12000ft-at - hmm... it seems to me that I have seen and sent here this last picture, maybe I am wrong?

Hi, most of the Vista updates would be terrible outdated and make zero sense now anyways. I'd include only the really needed. Only this one : KB4474419 (to use the Kernel) https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=kb4474419 If you intend to use Firefox, install Windows6.0-KB2117917-x64, also. update for DX 11 Gaming - Windows6.0-KB971512-x64. And you're all set !

that's the some problem I'm having (with liking posts)

I don't do plain chrome patching, not interested in it, sorry. I mostly patch Opera and similar. But I sent the instructions on what needs to be done to the creator of the ex-kernel for Vista @win32, and it will be implemented in the new kernel, so you all will be able to use the new Opera and Chrome. From what I see, no one's gonna do anything for windows 7.There's only talk, talk and talk.

I liked that you opened up but of course not that your'e sad. Any bright spots today?

Sad.

Sort of better now that I got something off my chest and I ate a nice dinner. Honestly I was pretty P!ssed all day about it and couldn't hold back. Sorry,.

Sup, Mina? How are you?

I just discovered your article. You are trying to install Windows Vista on Post-Ivy Bridge hardware. Vista, specifically x64, tends to have weird glitches on post-Ivy Bridge hardware, such as certain services not starting automatically. It is possible to install Vista on UEFI Class 3, as you already know I have done, but the Surface Pro 1 I used was pre-Haswell. I don't recommend using UEFISeven, from my personal experience, FlashBootPro EFI files would work better. Like stated before, @George King on MyDigitalLife has made a program called XP2ESD, download that, and in the apps folder, copy the efi folder in the FlashBootPro to your EFI partition, while keeping the BCD file. You also must have a SATA AHCI hard drive. If you don't, you will have to integrate NVME drivers into the ISO.

I'm using the first photo as my new desktop background

@UCyborg ...great! @legacyfan ... also great!

I don't see many posting of the universe from you anymore?!

Windows 8 Extended Kernel is based on Windows 10 build 9888, a debombed build, transformed to Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, in which you can run apps compatible with Windows 10 or above on Windows 8 or Windows 8.1.

I'm bored to death, I think I want a new female and then I think I don't, I tried to choose from the newly made ones and didn't find anything interesting. Also I don't have enough Euros, I think. I need to start a new business, maybe ? Or maybe find a job as a merc again, I dunno. I dunno what I want. Maybe I'm just tired. Maybe I have too much strength, I dunno anything anymore. What I know for sure - I'm going on a vacation and I want to find a place without russians and/or similar ones ! And you ?

Regarding the recent discussion about discourse-based forums being BROKEN under UXP-based browsers (NM28/St52/possibly also St55/moebius), I found a related thread in the official PM forums: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=29327 The point in the thread where the recent breakage happened (i.e. implementation of the "??=" operator by Discourse) is this one ; the approach savvy members there took to address the breakage is to use JustOff's Modify-HTTP-Response (legacy) extension below: https://github.com/JustOff/modify-http-response/releases/tag/1.3.8 Once installed, go to "about:addons" and access that extension's options; locate the "Filters" input field; in the initially empty field, paste the code below: [["/global\\.discourse-cdn\\.com|community\\.(frontrowcrew|cartalk)\\.com|forum\\.(manjaro|openwrt)\\.org|forum\\.italia\\.it/",["/browser-detect-/",["/.*/g",""]],["/vendor-/",["/(t\\.discourse\\.hoisted|t\\[e\\]|r)(\\?\\?|\\|\\|)=(\\{\\}|\\[\\])/g","$1$2($1=$3)","n??=[]","n||(n=[])"]],["/discourse-/",["e.draft||=t.draft","e.draft||(e.draft=t.draft)","/(t\\.__registry__\\._typeInjections\\.service|[ne]|f\\[e\\])(\\?\\?|\\|\\|)=(\\[\\]|\\{\\})/g","$1$2($1=$3)"]]]] NB: You'd better use a proper code-editor to copy/paste, to avoid any errors... Then "tick" the "Enable" setting above the "Filters" input field... @msfntor : If you now visit https://community.brave.com/ in your UXP-based browser, (hopefully) the forum will load OK (it does here, with St52): I do hope you're happier now ... The inner-workings of the method is that the extension intercepts the UXP-incompatible JS code sent by Discourse and then transpiles it on-the-fly, based on the Search-and-Replace RegExp filter specified... All credit for the filter code belongs to PM-Forum members Kris_88 and adoxa ... @Art7220 : The procedure I detailed above seems to also work for your "own" Discourse-based forum: https://forums.mst3k.com/

Version 8.0.0.0 (as written in the properties of the exe) from 2012. It is listed as an option under "rebuilder".

I have to concur with you. Years ago, I was the same way as D.Drake about using XP as a daily driver on the Internet. It irked me that people here didn’t want to conform to the conditions of a Microsoft license. I embraced Vista and never looked back. And I wanted the “Luddites” on MSFN to follow suit. That is until ... Windows 10 I really love Windows 8, as many of you know. I came to see how my usage of an EOL product was misunderstood by some. Now I could see how self-centred I was to the XP fans here. I remembered that until Windows 8 came along, that my installation of Windows XP x64 Edition was likely the most stable and fastest environment I had ever worked on. Before that, I recall my years with Windows 2000 with equally great fondness. So, how could I be such a d—k head to those that wanted to run older environments? Sure, my idea of desirable vintage would be 2012 flat. So while I detest the Mozilla Proton interface and the look of Windows 10, I rather like the look of Windows 8 and Quantum. There was still some sort of dimension with the flatness then. Heck, I wish outlook.com web mail still looked like the Windows 8 style Metro client, like it did until 2015. And while daily Internet use of Windows 2000 and XP baffles me, I shouldn’t impose my feelings on others. Moreover, I’m amazed at some of the progress people here have made getting more recent browsers to work on past OS builds. Roytam1 is a big contributor in this arena, but myPal 68 is an even bigger achievement. Apparently, more modern attempts at browsers on Windows 9x are also being developed. I never thought I’d see that. I've come to realize that MSFN is a haven for vintage computing, plain and simple, and one should embrace that. I wish I had been more gracious years ago.

@NotHereToPlayGames Reducing runtime memory in Windows 8 https://web.archive.org/web/20170918122254/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/

Did you keep any data to support this? I was given two laptops with i3's and I've opted to not put XP on these two laptops. I have tested Vista Extended Kernel and was thoroughly unimpressed - I applaud the endeavors of "extending" kernels, but I don't see myself going that route (at least not yet). I have been leaning towards installing Win7 Enterprise on these laptops until I stumbled into this 'claim' regarding Win8.

8.1 is not a bad OS. But: - The UI lag we have and know in w10 right now, started with 8.1 why? Cause new DPI improvements, new Virtual GPU memory pagination and other new features were introduced with this OS with the introduction of WDDM 1.3. do you remember "Windows Blue" ? WDDM 1.2 ( Windows 8.0 ) it's the best WDDM version. You can try Windows 8,0 on all hardware (only requirement is WDDM drivers) and it will improve any Windows XP, Vista and 7 machine (all are good OSes, well.. vista sp2 I mean). You won't have this improvement when you install Windows 8.1 on the same old hardware. The more memory you use on Windows 8.1 the more you will notice how laggy the UI can be. Try it yourself. I have nothing against Windows 8.1, 7, XP or Vista. I tried them all, and I love XP. But after I tried w10 RTM, Windows 10 beta builds on modern hardware (less lag than RTM or 1511 or anything after >1607) and all other Windows 10 builds, as you can see in the following link, I can confirm Windows 8.0 makes a difference on every hardware I tried, it's the last Windows you can decently run on old WDDM compatible hardware and the fastest experience on modern hardware. Start button isn't relevant for me, why? You can run explorer.exe from Windows 7 on w8,0 and you'll have the start button and the start menu or you can install a million alternatives to get start button and menu working on w8.0. The really only interesting part it's the kernel, the virtual memory pagination, the memory management, the WDDM version 1.2 (you can also install some 8.1 gpu drivers on it) and of course the UI lag. In other words, for me Windows 8.0 it's the new Windows XP. All software work on 8.0, no incompatibilities. Just click and run like the good old school windows 9x and 2k and xp and 2k3. It's like Windows 7 but with native uefi support, dwm improvements, memory improvements and less lag than 8.1 or 10. Windows 8.0 it's more like 7. Windows 8.1 it's more like 10. Why? Cause 8.1 loves memory like 10. Anyway you can run Windows 10 1511 on some old hardware from 2008 era and you'll have a better experience playing browser videos, youtube... than you'll have on 7,8.0 or 8.1. it's not all bad, it has a really interesting process, memory and cpu management... but again the more memory you use the more lag you'll have on the UI cause it has WDDM 2.0. This never happens on w8.0 and when you have lot of memory used on 8.0, you can use standby memory cleaner and memreduct and all will be free in seconds like when Windows started. All this comment is based on years of experience. I use windows since 3.1, I spend tons of hours in 95, 98, ME, XP and 2k3. And considering the resources you need these days to run modern software, I get the best and fastest experience in Windows 8.0. both 8.0 and 8.1 are great OSes. but less is more and I can't find the simplicity of 8.0 on 8.1. modern windows 10 UI lag started with 8.1, this is why I love WDDM 1.2 and 8.0 I tried 8.1 and 8.0 on netbooks (atoms, celerons...), powerful desktops, i3, i5, i7, dedicated gpus, integrated gpus... and I always ended using 8.0 having the best experience. better than xp, vista and 7. you will end having the best of an era with windows 8.0: I mean the best of 9x, 2k, xp, 2k3, vista and 7. And of course, I really don't believe the GUI lag of these OSes >10 are caused by less powerful hardware. It's all about how the OS works. If you don't believe think how fast Windows 95 and 98 worked without tons of RAM and SSDs and resources here and there. Even Windows 2000 with the kernel extension shows us how all these modern windows versions are really laggy and feels like a beta OSes. Windows 10/11 it's now like a videogame you need to check first if you have all the minimum resources to play it. To run what or to do what? And all these Metro Apps running in background... it's like a webpage... lot of colours, animations... Click here to remember what a real OS it is. Or here Long live windows 8.0. The best. And why it's better than Windows 7 ? Long story short. Article about 8.0 wrote while MS was finishing the development of Windows 8 RTM release date: https://web.archive.org/web/20170918122254/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/ Yes it's the ONLY windows version that needs less memory than it's predecessor.

there is probably very small chance for this to happen. Windows 8 has system file verification and thus won't boot with modified files. I know just 3-4 apis that are missing in user32.dll and kernel32.dll. Most of issues comes from API-MS-YADA YADA files. Local redirection works only in certain cases so I don't know about that. But I would love to see that. First we need to see win NT version spoofer since 8.1 can run most of the windows 10 only apps only if it spoofs it's os version.

In all honesty, Windows 8.1 is the better of the two. Everything is easier to access due to the readding of the native start button (classic shell on 8 (6.2) doesn't count), plus the start screen in my opinion is more organized. With that, I believe a Windows 8.1 Extended Kernel to be the better option. Since it appears this thread is gonna be dedicated to Windows 8, I'll create a separate thread to see if there is enough interest in a Windows 8.1 Extended Kernel. Before I go, this may be of help to anyone running Windows 8 on modern hardware. I'm under the impression this supports up to 10th Gen Intel. 11th Gen and later as well as subsets such as Jasper Lake are not currently supported, but I'm going to post about that in his thread. Oh, and I think his driver only supports either Q0 or Q1 stepping.

In my opinion, I think Windows 7 and 8 need an extended kernel. I don't think Windows 8.1 needs one, which like you said, can have the latest versions of some software with workarounds/modifications.