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"Personally", I'd stick with whatever browser on Win7SP1 is based on Chromium 109 (EoS for that OS), for as long as it still meets my browsing requirements ... ALL the forks to be found here in this thread basically target WinXP/Vista and even the UXP-based ones (NM28/St52) still fall considerably behind, web-compat-wise, Chromium 109 (and are very unlikely to catch up with it in a timely fashion, if ever...). I'd also keep an eye on the Win7 "communities" and the Chinese browser market (), as was the case with XP until recently , some Chromium 109+ codebase is bound to be backported to Win7... Additionally, there's promise in the air for a "Win7-Extended-Kernel", so not all things are "doom-and-gloom" ... FWIW, Mozilla Firefox still supports that OS, with no official cut-off date announced yet...

Official Pale Moon 32.0.0 Language Pack can be installed in latest NM28 if "install.rdf" is edited (lower <em:minVersion> to accommodate NM28); it works for the most part: Sadly, some less-used parts of the GUI (e.g. Web Developer Tools) are partially broken... This is because PM and NM[28]'s LPs are no more fully interchangeable... FWIW, all Roy's browsers are meant to be "en-US" locale, only...

Managed to get Nextcloud (previously mentioned browser-side JS replacement and additionally one CSS tweak) to mostly work. PDF viewer doesn't work along with the page with log messages. The key CSS tweak is: #content { height: calc(100% - 4em) !important; } I won't bother any further. Driving Pale Moon in 2023 feels like driving a car with a fancy infotainment and other bells and whistles, but a broken engine that stalls a lot and (more often with time) refuses to restart.

That's risky, but still nice attempt.

New Moon 28 (and New Moon 27 as "back-up"). It would be great for family members which have problems to understand English, for me it doesn't matter. kind regards soggi

Requires Win7 x64. Sends data to x.ss2.us and packages.axiacoin.com. "Axia Member Center" seems a bit untrustworthy, though I have no real "proof". Not a fan of built-in VPN's (too many folks "abuse" them!) Based on Chromium v107.

@Mathwiz wrote about the differences for New Moon and K-Meleon: As for which browser is the best, well, test each browser, and see which one is the best for you. It depends how you use them. Mypal's difference is that 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch have a user interface from old version of Firefox, while the 68.xx.x branch is based on Firefox 68.12.0esr. There are two versions of Mypal, the old 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch, and the new 68.xx.x branch (which can be found here). I personally use the 68.xx.x branch. Mypal, yes, it's based on Gecko. K-Meleon and New Moon, no, they're both based on Goanna engine. (Correct me if I am wrong for Pale/New Moon, as I personally don't use it) Mypal is available in English (United States), but you can install your own language in it: For the old 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch, you can get them from here, For 68.xx.x branch, you can get your language from here, and instructions on how to apply your downloaded language (in xpi file format) to 68.xx.x is here (note: the site is Japanese, but, use a translator to translate the website). K-Meleon is available in the following languages: English (United States), German, Spanish, French, Italian, Russian, Chinese (China). New Moon is available in English (United States), but you can install your own language, read this post to know how. New Moon and K-Meleon are updated every week by roytam1. Mypal, well, it's on a slower pace by Feodor2. Welcome to MSFN, by the way.

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What is ViStart? ViStart is Start Menu replacement that works with Windows XP or modern systems like latest Windows 10! This application is here for a long time, I remember back in 2007 it was very requested as fully working Windows Vista Start Menu with real search bar. During time ViStart evolved to version 8.1.5208 compiled 14.2.2016. After long delay was 31.3.2021 released version 8.1.5254 and Lee Chantrey decided to make it Open Source and released source code on GitHub Now I created fork 26.1.2023 with v8.1.5254 and during my testing I realized many features that I need are unfinished or missing. For example even with fully translated Language file translation in app was incomplete. 3.2.2023 I have released v8.1.5258 as my latest attempt to improve ViStart to another level. I started with my changes with my first release at 28.1.2023 with v8.1.5255 To make installation easy as possible I have created two silent installers for ViStart. One which handle application that is installed to %ProgramFiles% and one which extract skins related files to %AppData%. You need both of them to launch ViStart. These links always points to latest version it can be updated frequently than official release on GitHub. I have done various improvements to the code. Here is list of main changes, for more details see changelog. Improved translations, every visible element under Windows XP / Vista / 7 host can be now translated using Language.xml Added new context menu in "Navigation Pane" on custom items - Open, Rename and Hide Added new context menu to "Computer" - Manage and Search Added new context menu to "Computer" / "Network" / "Control Panel" - Show on desktop / Hide from desktop Added new context menu "Explore" when browsing All programs to be able open whole folder Removed ViPad context menu when ViPad is not running or not installed. No more "online" feature in context menu Realigned all items in Control Panel to make UI more clear Added new option to change Skins Rollover icons similar to Start Orb Skins settings Updated application icon with older better one from v1.6 era Non existent "Frequent programs" / "Pinned programs" loaded from settings.xml are not displayed Added 18 optional items than can be displayed in "Navigation Pane" from settings.xml Added Libraries, Downloads, Printers and Faxes, Set Program Defaults, Search support for settings.xml - Windows XP related options are set as default in settings.xml - Added Games folder support which points to %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Games - this is not dynamic and on each XP language you need to manually fix this path in settings.xml if would like to use this option - Windows Vista / 7 options Libraries, Downloads, Games, Help are commented out, you need manually fix settings.xml on other systems than XP / 2003 Added Windows XP Luna Blue, Windows XP Luna Olive, Windows XP Luna Silver, WIndows XP Embedded, Windows XP Zune, Windows XP Royale, Windows 8 Beta Concept, Windows Vista, Windows Vista 5270 Skins Added option to control "Navigation Pane" display items limit, see Windows 8 Beta Concept Skins layout.xml ViStart translations are now really unfinished as everything is now translatable. But I adapded all languages founded over internet and all of them are included. Feel free to improve current translations or provide new one! Every language have all needed strings inside to make it easy for you, translators! Brazilian Czech - 100% Dutch English - 100% French German - 90% Hebrew - 100% Italian Korean Polish Russian Spanish Turkish Download ViStart-all.exe https://www.mediafire.com/file/bgra4u1jgh02v1j/ViStart-all.exe/file ViStartSkins-all.exe https://www.mediafire.com/file/a2tw9bj6pph2my4/ViStartSkins-all.exe/file Preview Currently included Skins Windows 7 Start Menu Windows Vista Windows Vista 5270 Windows XP Luna Blue Windows XP Luna Olive Windows XP Luna Silver Windows XP Royale Windows XP Zune Windows XP Embedded Windows 8 Beta Concept Ideas and improvements that come in future releases Windows 11 support Skins SubSkins support - Skins creator can specify Skins variants, like different Start Menu size or Light / Dark mode etc. I have currently implemented these changes which were accepted by author to merge into main ViStart branch. Changelog ViStart v8.1.5258 [*]Removed broken fix for bug 2] in "No programs match the search criteria" is never displayed "No programs match the search criteria" is never displayed #10 as it caused issues [*]Removed start_button.png depency in FileCheck, now can be loaded skins without start_button.png [*]Added new option to select custom Rollover, place _rollover directory near _skins and put your favourites rollovers inside [*]Updated Language files with latest strings [*]Updated default settings.xml [*]Added support to display "Search" option in Start Menu [*]Increased settings.xml items limit to 18 [*]Added Windows 7 Rollover [*]Added default Start Orb ViStart v8.1.5257 [*]Fixed "Files" string translation doesn't work "Files" string translation doesn't work #8 - "Files" string translation doesn't work #8 [*]Fixed Bug 2] "No programs match the search criteria" is never displayed "No programs match the search criteria" is never displayed #10 - from "No programs match the search criteria" is never displayed #10, Bug 1] still remains [*]Fixed incorrect translation loading on ViStart Control Panel for "strStartViStart" and "strStartWinMenu" [*]Improved "Pinned programs" loading from settings.xml, non existent items are not displayed [*]Improved "Navigation pane" limit again. 17 items are choosable and are parsed from settings.xml, now in Each Skin's layout.xml can be specified limit which should hide items that can't be displayed. For example user preconfigure 15 items to be displayed in Start Menu "Navigation Pane" in settings.xml. But I have specified in My Skin layout.xml which will hide 4 last incompatible items when is performed Skin change. User can always break this rule when manually selecting Start Menu default items visibility. This tweak is here to improved initial skin load to avoid buttons overlap [*]Realigned almost all items in Control Panel to make UI more clear [*]Changed various English labels according to UI polishing [*]Added option to disable Splash Screen [*]Added Turkish + Polish translation created from old various finds [*]Updated all languages with all needed strings [*]Added Windows XP Luna Blue Skin, Windows XP Luna Olive Skin, Added Windows XP Luna Silver, WIndows XP EMbedded, Windows XP Zune, Windows XP Royale, Windows 8 Beta Concept, Windows Vista, Windows Vista 5270 Skin - Start buttons needs to be created, feel free to improve these Skins I'm not graphics guy. In many Skins are correct credits. For some themes I don't know from where was found original images that was touched when adapting for ViStart 8.1! [*]Added fixed connect.png to Windows 7 Start Menu roolover instead of Homegroup icon [*]Added PNGs for Printers, Downloads, Libraries and Userfolder rollover to Windows 7 Start Menu ViStart v8.1.5256 [*]Removed "Recent" word from Skins/Windows 7 Start Menu/startmenu_expanded.png [*]Removed ViStart.manifest [*]Added ViStart.exe.manifest [*]Updated application icon with older better one from v1.6 era [*]Improved "Frequent programs" loading from settings.xml, non existent items are not displayed [*]Increased limit from 12 to 17 items in Start Menu "Navigation pane" [*]Added Libraries, Downloads, Printers and Faxes, Set Program Access and Defaults support for settings.xml [*]Added new default settings.xml into main directory and RES - Windows XP related options are defaults - Added Downloads folder support (Downloads folder must be placed in CLSID {450D8FBA-AD25-11D0-98A8-0800361B1103} know as My Documents , so this is dynamic for all languages when you create Downloads folder - Added Games folder support which points to %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Games - this is not dynamic and on each XP language you need to manually fix this path in settings.xml if would like to use this option - Fixed Help and support option - Windows Vista / 7 options Libraries, Downloads, Games, Help are commented out, you need manually fix settings.xml on other systems than XP / 2003 [*]Added all needed strings to all language files. Fully translated in only Czech.xml until translators finish other languages ViStart v8.1.5255 [*]Improved translations, every visible element under Windows XP host can be now translated using Language.xml [*]Added new translatable elements into all available languages [*]Added Czech.xml [*]Added new context menu in NavigationPane on custom items - Open, Rename and Hide [*]Added new context menu to "Computer" - Manage, Search [*]Added new context menu to "Computer" / "Network" / "Control Panel" - Show on desktop / Hide from desktop [*]Added new context menu "Explore" when browsing All programs to be able open whole folder [*]Added Windows XP Luna Blue theme [*]Removed ViPad context menu when ViPad is not running or not installed. No more "online" feature in context menu [*]Removed More themes and More Orbs online buttons. No more "online" features from Settings [*]Realigned buttons on Style configuration page [*]Realigned elemens on About page and added current build visibility [*]Updated settings.xml with new defaults [*]Fixed "No skins available", if doesn't exist %APPDATA%\ViStart use current EXE dir if _skins folder exist there

Also note, that these links are sometimes changed by Dropbox when I upload an update.

I have them. See below and bookmark this post, so that you can always see them when logged in. [Edit] The link to yt-dlp doesn't change any more. It is hosted on GitHub for quite some time now.

win32 had said he could, but he didn't since it wouldn't receive updates and wasn't that useful compared to porting modern browsers according to what i remember.

Does it really work? The last time I wanted to use a Pale Moon lang pack in New Moon I had no success. kind regards soggi Hi @soggi! For New Moon 28, I use the German language pack from here: https://github.com/JustOff/pale-moon-localization/releases/download/28.10.0_RC1/de.xpi which I modified myself a long time ago in terms of the dev tools. You are German like me , therefore you are lucky and can use my already modified language pack file de-mod-content-dev.xpi. Here is the link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/99riihhfrxrju2k/de-mod-content-dev.xpi/file Cheers, AstroSkipper

I assume you are talking about @nicolaasjan's signature. He has them.

Dark dialogs are looking great. Only the RICHEDIT50W controls used by "Digital Signature" file properties are still white.

ChatGPT isn’t the only AI-powered website… Here are 14 AI websites that feel illegal to know about (but NOT interesting to me...): https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1618243548108701697

Concerning language packs, last time I tried I had no success with the official one (for Dutch in my case). But forum member @gerwin was so kind to provide me with a working modification, which still works. (see this post)

Greetings. At least with some version of curl (and OpenSSL) it works. Best regards. test_curl.zip

Thanks a lot!

thanks @msfntor I'm fine it's just kind of cold here in the 20s and there predicting a wintery mix here tomorrow so the weather is a little bit down right now (were also under a winter storm warning now) also the city I live in just declared schools closed citywide at least we still have power

Complex solar halo in North Dakota, USA on January 19, 2023… like above, from: https://strangesounds.substack.com/p/wait-wait-whats-this-yes-its-just Home page: https://strangesounds.substack.com/archive ...AND: Extreme tornadoes ravage parts of Texas on January 24, 2023… Footage of a destructive tornado in Texas! Storm caused massive damage in Pasadena and Deer Park by World Is Dangerous ...and you, legacyfan, al is OK with you?...

Watch as a fired Twitter employee applies for her first *actual* job:

I assume that it just emulates them. But that is an assumption.

LOVE Vasko Kohlmayer Oct 12, 2022 "Dear Readers, I have not posted anything in some time, because I needed to take a break from writing. I felt quite drained, and I also needed to devote some time to family matters. For the paid subscribers, I paused billing some time ago so they should not be charged for the time I’ve not been posting. (You are, of course, free to unsubscribe at any time.) I have been following the news and latest developments, and it is quite obvious that the world is not well at this time. In any case, sooner or later I will resume writing and throw my two cents into the mix. In the meantime, below is a little poem I wrote the other day. In a peculiar way, somehow it feels proper for these troubled times. LOVE Love is the thing that we all seek, Love is the tongue the angels speak, Love is the soul’s eternal thirst, Love is life’s last and also first. Love is the force that drives it all, Love is the heart’s most earnest call, By love we God’s promise seize, Love is the lens through which God sees. Love is what gives the heart its grace, Love is the matrix behind space, It is love that dresses Earth in air, It is love that makes living fair. Love is the secret of life’s bliss, We do not live if love we miss, Love is the glue that binds us all, Love is the cure that heals the soul. On throbbing love this cosmos stands, Love is the pulse of the universe, Love is the wellspring of all being, Love is the secret of right seeing. Without love no joy rings true, Love is God’s most telling clue, Love is God’s most precious dealing, Love is what gives life its meaning." All this on his substack topic: https://vasko.substack.com/p/love Home page: https://vasko.substack.com/

Sal, enlighten me, if you have read all the posts I have made, but you haven't "liked" them, please? Is there anything in them that you don't like?

Sal, why you post "easily" "political" posts, but don't respond at my previous post in the Pretty Detox Posts topic on page 36 here: "My reply was political, and while others might have agreed ... was better to avoid the MAGA republicans and let them be as" - it's yours too...

Yeah, it was @burd's attempt:

I successfully ported newly released Opera Version: 96.0.4674.0 System:Windows Vista 64-bit Chromium version:110.0.5481.30

Off-topic: while testing my GreenPad on ReactOS, I found some bugs and fixed some of them. And ReactOS twitter account mentioned me. :)

Hello everyone. I must extend my sincere apologies for being inactive here this year. My life has changed dramatically over the past year, from walking away from a toxic relationship, to putting myself through therapy to recover from the trauma that it caused me, to finding someone new, to working at the Post Office every day and that taking up most of my energy (as @LoneCrusader can relate ) the time has just gotten away from me, and I haven't made the time that I should have to keep this list up to date. With that being said, I am setting up a virtual machine of stock (NO extended kernel) Windows Vista to test software on, and continuing my obligation of providing Vista users with the best and most up-to-date resource available when it comes to running their favorite software on their preferred operating system. I am going to go through nearly every entry still listed as ONG as of October 2020, and find out which ones no longer fit the label of ONG, and try to narrow down exactly the final versions of these pieces of software to run on Vista, and list them here accordingly. I will also be going through and fixing every broken link I can find, as I'm sure a lot of them have stopped working over the past couple of years. Thank you all so much for your patience and understanding. I hope everyone here is happy, healthy & doing well! (Screenshot of VM so you know I'm serious about this :

I'm a retired EE, I've been around computers for a shade under 60 years now. I should be out in the garden, but I'd rather sit behind my screens and curse M$.

Well, it definitely DOESN'T work under Vista SP2 (32-bit); in the main "bin" folder, Sanbrowser.exe chrome_proxy.exe both call functions not present in Vista's kernel32.dll ; things are much worse inside the "92.0.4482.0" subdir: chrome_pwa_launcher.exe notification_helper.exe chrome.dll chrome_elf.dll mojo_core.dll vk_swiftshader.dll ... ALL call (from 1 to as many as 30) missing kernel functions under Vista SP2... E.g. below are DW results for chrome.dll: (14 missing functions in total in kernel32, 5 in user32.dll, 1 in advapi32.dll, 5 in mfplat.dll, 1 in shell32.dll, 1 in cfgmgr32.dll, 1 in powrprof.dll and 2 in mf.dll), and chrome_elf.dll:

SanBrowser is a Chinese product, that's one thing for sure... The installer for latest version v1.0.2.30 (from one year ago) has been digitally signed on July 25th 2021, the certificate issued by "Shenzhen SanShangYun Technology Co., Ltd". The downloaded setup is of a custom format that can't be unpacked with any of the known tools in my possession ; that surely made it impossible for me to inspect internal .EXE and .DLL files with Dependency Walker, to check for Vista SP2 compatibility ... And when I read their "Privacy" disclaimer: https://www.sanbrowser.com/privacy , it became a "no go" for me to even attempt running that Chinese-made installer ... So, I'll pass the baton on to someone else more adventurous, I guess ...

I don't have a Windows Vista installation available but may anyone test this? https://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/SanBrowser.shtml If this works, it should be Chrome 90+ on Windows Vista.

The CPython 3.7.x branch is the LAST that can launch under Vista SP2 fully updated (until Vista's EoS; that is "vanilla" Vista, i.e. no ExtKernel ). The 3.7 branch is currently under "security-fix" maintenance ONLY by the PSF (Python Software Foundation), as such they have ceased releasing themselves Windows binaries at version 3.7.9: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-379/ The current 3.7 source-only release is v3.7.13 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3713/ A third-party (i.e. not the PSF) are providing Windows binaries for that version at: https://github.com/adang1345/PythonWindows/tree/master/3.7.13 Python 3.7.x will become EoL in ca. a year (23-07-2023) but, sadly, many Python projects are already considering dumping support for it , also due to the small number of actual Vista users... PSF have also dropped support for Win7SP1 (and Win8.0) in Python 3.9.x; with Win8.1's "demise" come next Jan 23rd, CPython will move to supporting only Win10+...

Does anyone know what’s the latest version of Python that can run on Vista?

Finally, some good news! After a faulty 1.367.4xx.0 series of WD definitions, which included buggy mpasdlta.vdm files of versions 1.367.413.0, 1.367.415.0, 1.367.423.0, 1.367.432.0, 1.367.435.0, 1.367.447.0, 1.367.457.0, 1.367.472.0, 1.367.487.0, 1.367.491.0, WD defs of v1.367.494.0 and higher are, once again, "OK", i.e. they no longer cause WD's Windows service to crash under Vista SP2 ; series "5xx" is already "out", I successfully ran a "Quick Scan" with v1.367.502.0 : ... I won't go as far as saying that MS staff monitor this thread (), but either via internal testing or via some other party reporting it to them, the issue has been identified and mitigated... Until the next c*ck up and until Jan 2023 (when I expect WD+MSE standalone defs to be retired by MS) ...

... issue persists with latest v1.367.457.0:

Thank you! I got confused because https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=121721&clcid=0x409&arch=x64&eng=0.0.0.0&avdelta=0.0.0.0&asdelta=0.0.0.0&prod=925A3ACA-C353-458A-AC8D-A7E5EB378092 needs "x64", while the version-specific link needs "amd64"

WD x64 definitions, version 1.367.386.0 (engine version 1.1.19200.6): https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/amd64/mpas-fe.exe WD x64 definitions, latest version: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/amd64/mpas-fe.exe BTW, I need some feedback from Windows Vista SP2 users (x86 and/or x64) running the nag-free version (4.4.304.0) of Microsoft Security Essentials: Are you able to update MSE's defs past v1.367.386.0 without MSE's Windows service crashing? Manual download links: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpam-fe.exe https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/amd64/mpam-fe.exe

What is the link for x64 version? (is is not https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x64/mpas-fe.exe nor https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x64/mpas-fex64.exe)

Well, it looks like Microsoft have managed to kill Vista's native antispyware, Windows Defender (not to be confused with Microsoft Defender Antivirus for Windows 8.1+) for good , either inadvertently or deliberately... I won't be discussing the "merits" (or lack of...) of WD as a proper ASW solution, but I still have its real protection ON, along with my third party Security Suite, and have it scheduled to perform a "Quick Scan" every night at 23:00 (in my timezone). For those not following this, MS have, since long ago, stopped issuing WD definition updates via Windows Update, those were used to be called "Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus (!) - KB915597" and the last one on this machine (v1.297.531.0) was received and installed on July 6th 2019: A few days later in that July, Vista SP2 was severed from the WU servers , due to the SHA-2 implementation in those endpoints... It is unknown to me when exactly MS stopped altogether the production and distribution of the KB915597 updates (they're no longer to be found in the MUC either, unlike the KB2310138 ones, which are definition updates for Microsoft Security Essentials, still offered via MU on supported platforms - namely Win7 SP1). But MS continued to offer these definition updates (for Win7 SP1 & WinVista SP2) as standalone mpas-fe.exe files, accessible from their "Microsoft Security Intelligence" portal - it used to be called otherwise in the past, but the old name eludes me now... For the x86 architecture, the DL link is: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=121721&clcid=0x409&arch=x86&eng=0.0.0.0&avdelta=0.0.0.0&asdelta=0.0.0.0&prod=925A3ACA-C353-458A-AC8D-A7E5EB378092 An alternative, more "user-friendly", link is: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpas-fe.exe Running the downloaded "mpas-fe.exe" file would update WD's definitions/signatures in a matter of ca. 20s (YMMV). In mid-October 2019, the file, as well as its internal constituents, ceased being dual-signed and was henceforth only SHA-2 signed; in order to make the "updated" files install on Vista SP2, updates from WS2008SP2 were necessary, that backported SHA-2 file signature verification to Vista itself... Since that time, Microsoft goofed-up on several occasions, by issuing 1. a "mpas-fe.exe" file with SubSystem version 6.1, that wouldn't run under Vista/WS2008 (6.0) 2. internal components of said file (e.g. mpengine.dll, MpSigStub.exe) also with subsys version = 6.1, or 3. internal engine file (mpengine.dll) compiled to target Win7 SP1 as minimum OS, calling functions missing in Vista's kernel . HexEditing the infringing file(s) would invalidate their SHA-2 file signatures, making them not verify and not install... These "hiccups" were, one way or the other, reported to MS, especially by WS2008SP2 ESU paying customers, and they were eventually mitigated (within several hours or, more commonly, days). FWIW, I have the following batch file I run daily, to update my WD defs: @echo off start /min /wait cscript "create_restore_point.vbs" start /min /wait wget -S -N --unlink --secure-protocol=TLSv1_2 "https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpas-fe.exe" if exist mpas-fe.exe start /min /wait mpas-fe.exe The .vbs script (not posting it here, unless asked) creates a restore point prior to the update, while wget only downloads the file if it's newer (on the server) from the one previously fetched on disk... Come Tuesday May 24th, 2022 - file "mpas-fe.exe" is now at versions 1.367.3xx.0, engine is at version 1.1.19200.6, all looked fine, including version 1.367.386.0 (signed on 24/05/2022): https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x86/mpas-fe.exe BTW, that direct link will expire soon (in a day, two at most...); with that version installed, WD is "happy", ... I even performed a "Quick Scan" to completion: But 1.367.386.0 was to be the last of the "3xx" series, then came the "4xx" ones: 1.367.413.0, 1.367.415.0, 1.367.423.0, 1.367.432.0 (latest at the time of writing), which did keep, however, the same engine version, 1.1.19200.6. Each one of these will cleanly install on top of 1.367.386.0, but won't install in the normal fashion on top of one of the previous "4xx" ones (e.g. 1.367.423.0 updating 1.367.413.0, etc.); in fact, installing any of these "4xx" ones on top of "386" will go fine initially, but after 20-30s WD will "crash", due to the WD service having stopped: If you try to perform a "Quick Scan" before WD crashes, you'll get a similar breakage: So, there's something inside files "mpasdlta.vdm" (the actual defs file) of the "4xx" series that makes the WD service crash under Windows Vista SP2 ... The release of that "1.367.4xx.0" series signals the death nail of WD under Vista, because it becomes unusable/non-updatable anymore... Mind you, returning WD to a working state, with 1.367.386.0 installed, wasn't an easy thing either (but I did it), as running file mpas-fe.exe (of that version) doesn't cut it... But I probably shouldn't go into specifics, because, in reality, it's a moot point: in 2-3 days' time, WD will nag me about "out-of-date signatures", however, if things haven't been changed by MS (I don't expect them to be ...), the route to update those signatures won't be "enforceable"... Thanks Microsoft, once more ... In all honesty though, I'd have expected them to end WD support in Jan 2023, same time the Win7 SP1+WS2008 SP2 ESU plans end, so am not fully convinced they had a mind to prematurely kill it on Vista... The amount of WD users on WS2008SP2 is probably zero now, so news of this will likely never reach MS staff... To quote "The Doors":

That's really strange! It always create the shortcuts to me. Here are some pictures for proof: This was tested on a Vista SP2 64-bit VM, completely vanilla (yes, not even the Platform Update is installed). IrfanView 64-bit also creates the shortcuts.

I too have noticed this. I had to create the shortcuts myself. The program works as expected otherwise, though.

Anyone installed IrfanView 4.60 recently on Vista? Installer fails to create desktop / start menu shortcuts here, only empty folder is made in start menu.

Hello everyone. Glad to see MSFN is still online! I'm happy to announce that the list has been migrated over to the Eclecboard forum. Huge thanks to my best friend @docR for migrating it for me to his forum and making sure all the formatting is correct. Here's the link to the sister thread on EclecBoard: https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=113 Don't worry, I will continue to update the list on MSFN & EclecBoard for as long as both forums remain online. I am going to resume updating it again soon as I've been extremely busy in my personal life lately (and thankfully am now in a healthy, loving relationship ). After leaving the toxicity I was in before, I feel much better and have regained interest in Vista and the list again and hope to get everything squared away with it within the next couple of weeks, as there's going to be a LOT of new changes made since October 2020... Hope everyone is doing well!

Damn, Thanks, glad to know its back.

Wait what, i've been away for a while aswell, where is the announcement of MSFN going offline.

Hello everyone. I'm sorry for the very long period of inactivity lately. I've had a lot going on outside of MSFN in my personal life that has kept me busy. I also walked away from an unhealthy relationship and have been taking steps to rebuild my life since then, which has kept me from being able to update the list for the past several months. In light of the recent announcement that MSFN is going offline, I will be moving my list over to a forum hosted by my friend Ryan: http://forum.eclectic4un.me/ This will take a while as I need to manually re-add all of the links and formatting, but I will post the link here when it is finished. Feel free to join our forum if you're looking for a new home once MSFN is no longer available! We're still grassroots at the moment, but we will be building a new legacy software community over there and we'd love to have you join us (@Ximonite& @win32 are already there and have pertinent posts related to Vista Extended Kernel & Win2000's KernelXE!). Thank you so much everyone here for your contributions to the list over the past 6 years. It has been my pleasure to help provide this information to Vista users for the past several years, and I like to believe our efforts have helped many Vista (and even XP) users over the years. I'm sad to see MSFN go, but all good things do come to an end. Best regards