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Well, the thing is, for all of Moonchild's programming talent, MCP just isn't up to the task of putting into UXP every new Javascript feature that someone (usually Google) thinks up, gets approved, and works into every Web framework they can get their greedy hands on. A deeper "bench" of programmers would help. Too bad MCP spent much of the past few years alienating would-be allies rather than welcoming them into the fold. And while the main cause of that alienation is now gone, it's probably too late now. All that said, UXP is still an impressive browser platform. I'm often surprised how many Web sites do still work with it!

I'm working on building a new PC for myself to use with Windows 8.1 on it (mainly because of my distaste for 10 and 11 and also nostalgia for using 8.1), and since I'll have to deal with all of the problems with trying to use modern hardware and software on an OS that has it's support ending in mere days I decided to join this forum as it seems to be a wonderful place for expertise on that matter. I'm very unknowledgeable about computer stuff (I don't know what drivers or the stuff on motherboards are other than pure magic ) so please keep that in mind when interacting with me here. (Definitely trying to learn, however!) (Also, to those curious about the username: I'm a big Spongebob fan, so when I saw the username wasn't taken I just had to snag it.)

140 MB without extensions and 220 MB with extensions. Vista x64, BTW. Back in 2012, you could fit 40 tabs in 620 MB of RAM or less! Well, at least according to the test the good guys at Tom's Hardware did. And 620 MB figure was in Opera, the worst in that aspect at the time. Yup, all updated. I figured I can't use --disable-gpu-driver-bug-workarounds because then I don't get actual webpage compositing acceleration despite the green status on chrome://gpu, so videos lag. --use-angle=gl gives me slow (not SwiftShader slow, but slow nonetheless), but fully functional WebGL and no webpage compositing acceleration (so laggy videos again). It just occured to me that there are two distinct flags specifying how graphics / WebGL is handled (didn't do enough reading), until recently, I thought --use-angle=gl is just the new --use-gl=desktop and that the latter is not relevant anymore, but that is not the case, works differently internally. --use-gl=desktop gives me an error about missing wglCreatePbufferARB on chrome://gpu page...dang it, another dead end, so again no HW accelerated compositing and WebGL through very slow SwiftShader. Though wglCreatePbufferARB is very old function and seems doubful that the driver would lack it. I'd rather bet on the nice personality.

Until the time comes when it no longer actually works on many websites, I couldn't care less how old the Chromium version is!

Another OBSESSION. We all know. The horse is dead. You can put down the baseball bat. This is an Older NT-Family OSes discussion. As such, there will always be a LAG with "cutting edge". Basically, "we don't care" about the LAG being YEARS. We have our JUSTIFIABLE reasons for using Older NT-Family OSes.

Uh, that's my post on my Reddit account, lol. And my post is about: running latest official Chrome on XP with an extended kernel, in this case, One-Core-API. Chrome 102 is the latest version that runs at the moment, any version higher than 102 immediately crashes upon launch. What we're talking about is: having backports/forks of Chromium 92 working on XP, without any extended kernels!

im on there now also https://www.xpforums.com/members/legacyfan.2952/

Doing fine, but some depression has came to me recently. It wasn't worse on Saturday, but it became worse on Sunday. Correct, I had exams. Oh, xpforums? I do remember seeing such forum before!

The only "next Chrome for XP" that I am aware of is being forked/backported from Chromium v92. I applaud more options but at the same time don't think v92 really gains us much over v86. UXP died two years ago and as others have noted, it's hanging by a thread on "life support". v86 is "living the golden years" in a retirement community, but there will be a day that it too will be on "life support". I don't follow the "javascript chronology" or whatever it would be called - does anyone know what v92 would gain us over v86 as far as a Chromium-based backport? Technically, my only "barometer" is my own list of bill-pay and checking/savings/retirement accounts. it's anybody's guess on how much longer v86 is going to still work on my list of web sites. But when the day comes that they stop working (and that day will come!), I don't foresee v92 being "new enough" to bridge the gap back to functional. Only time will tell, it's all "speculation" until then.

I just want to thank you for effort, time and dedication spent to make xp to run on newer hardware 20 years after its launching. Ofcourse, my thanks goes to all people involved in testing, patching and reporting aswell. In advance, Happy new year to all !!! & Long live XP !!!

Bless Andalu for providing kernel log with bug tips Bug was overwriting pointer to next AML operator for most device definition

Hello everyone! I'm joined MSFN because talking about the OS and something...

I'd still be using Opera 12

I dipped my toe in Win7 and Vista "extended kernels". All it did for me was result in very iffy application stability and an OS that would BSOD when I wasn't even moving the mouse or touching the keyboard. Kinda reminded me of back in my AMD days when I was big into overclocking. There was always a fine line not to cross before rendering your own computer untrustworthy for sensitive use because you never knew when the next BSOD was gonna pop out of nowhere. Speaking solely for myself, I have no plans on ever trying any XP "extended kernel". At least not in the early stages. I'll let others be the guinnea pigs.

Thanks for the good tests ! So looks like the memory "bug" is XP related. Well, from what I remember, it may be due to the fact of your GPU being gen-7 and/or a poor combination with the old drivers, I was able to get the GPU process to boot through the commandline switch --enable-gpu , without it you won't get any Hardware video decode at all ! But then again, my GPU is from the 9th gen. and I use the newer drivers I modded myself. https://msfn.org/board/topic/184056-breakthrough-p2-new-pascal-special-microsoft-nvidia-driver-port-for-vista-x64/page/ There is also my P1 tutorial (more complex) on how to cook new Nvidia drivers for Vista without the extended kernel. Also, VP9 , HEVC, VP8, H265 are still not accelerated because you would need at least GTX1080 or smth like that.

Don't do this, please, looks spammy maybe

This is an Older NT-Family OSes discussion. As such, there will always be a LAG with "cutting edge". Basically, "we don't care" about the LAG being YEARS. We have our JUSTIFIABLE reasons for using Older NT-Family OSes. I'd still be using Opera 10, if it worked ! And I did - 'till the end. BTW, I don't know how modern Chrome looks on XP, but it still looks the same on Vista (with aero), and it all that matters. So why not use it ? I don't want to get into arguments, but obviously we use a different set of websites. You of all know, I loved this browser when it made sense for me.

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We do not like WinUI and most win7/vista users use aero/classic theme and win32 programs. I hate apps and sorry, apps are inferior in every way, not to mention all important apps are electron and therefore run with standard APIs

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Our entire Solar System is changing rapidly, but nobody is really talking about it Here: https://strangesounds.org/2022/12/our-entire-solar-system-is-changing-rapidly-but-nobody-is-really-talking-about-it.html

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What about RAM ? Also amost 1GB with an emply page too ? PS. You need this update for DX11 (Windows6.0-KB971512) on Vista for all these to work, it's achievable. I just turn it off intentionally. I only use hardware Skia. Also, you would need to force gpu usage via flags, but the ones you already used is a good start. Check if your chrome runs an additional GPU process.

I know AF thinks it the end of the line, but I don't, I think 360 just hasn't appeared "sexy" enough to attract the new generation. How can we add bigger boobs to it?

I second that! I'm sure I know what the answer will be, but this version still doesn't enable my Lenovo Flex 10 to reboot, it still just hangs on the shutdown screen. I guess this isn't something that's being addressed at the moment, but if it could be, I would be very grateful indeed.

@Mov AX, 0xDEAD @Dietmar I just tried it with MSI Z590-A and GA-H470-HD3 boards: it works correctly. Thanks

I don't think they'll mind if I repost it here, at least temporarily: This isn't the full list, but gives you the idea. Any of those could be reasonable in isolation, but they do add up! In particular, it seems like a bit of overkill to add ads to outgoing messages and impose all the other restrictions! Is it adware or is it feature-limited? Shouldn't be both, IMO. Guess I'll pony up for the paid version.

I recently setup this browser on my Vista SP2 installation. HW compositing only works via D3D9(Ex) (using chrome://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist), but WebGL does not, so I left it disabled , there are errors in D3D9 mode and D3D11 mode doesn't init at all (with --disable-gpu-driver-bug-workarounds since D3D11 is also blocked via that bug list), even OpenGL mode requires D3D11 (error DXGI_ERROR_INVALID_CALL during init), probably D3D11 Win7 got with updates is required. Still, HTML5 videos at decent resolutions are watchable here despite non-functional GPU video decoding. Interestingly, the load on both CPU and GPU is less than on recent Serpent 52, same video codec (h.264) and resolution (1080p60). The GPU doesn't have to switch from the lowest frequency and there's a difference in temperature by 2 degrees celsius in favor of Chrome. It's very interesting because when I go from 1080p60 to 1440p60, it's not watchable on Chrome anymore, but remains watchable in Serpent (with hiccups). Skia Renderer is reported as disabled by default, enabling it in chrome://flags prevents tons of errors from popping up on chrome://gpu page otherwise while browsing. Some people use Skype or Teams in the browser, the latter seems popular in business environment (both WANT you to use Chrome, obviously one can forget official Electron based clients on legacy OS), this browser still loads both, I can only tell that microphone (or at least its port) exposed through Windows recording devices is detected (both on XP and Vista), though couldn't test if the sound goes through since don't have am actual mic at hand. Also found an extension dealing with font contrast if anyone's interested - Chrome Font Super Enhancer, obviously can only mess with CSS properties, but uses some formula to determine the values. Late edit: WebGL1 works partially.

Again, when you writesomething, please elaborate. Meaning : write down the KB number, provide with links, etc. Articles are also very useful, even if old. And swearing is not necessary, especially in win32's section.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20221217-485bba73-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20221217-485bba73-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20221217-id-656ea98-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20221217-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20221217-3219d2d-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20221217-3219d2d-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20221217-3219d2d-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221217-d849524bd-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221217-d849524bd-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221217-d849524bd-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20221217-d849524bd-uxp-4ea078d68-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - No issue - Fix packaging Epyrus on FreeBSD and Solaris. The TwemojiMozilla.ttf font should be bundled on Windows and any GTK platforms. We should not limit the GTK platform to Linux only. (af3667d71) - [network] move some generic websocket code to the baseclass (6a1e54041) - [libjar] Add some extra sanity checks to our Zip reader. (a876dc742) - [network] Align cookie checks with RFC 6265 (bis) (f54f007d4) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

For the dark page rendering use these flags : --enable-features=WebContentsForceDark --force-dark-mode The last one is for the UI in "normal" chrome. But it will not help with the most modern websites, for example imdb. Why ? because the engine of this browser is outdated, yeah , sorry to say it. But if use thee same flags with, say chrome 102 - it will render them dark. About the UI of this chinese one, its' for the author to answer.

You guys have lost your mind completely.

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Excuse me, why should I force such a terrible experience with "modern" apps on me ? I don't quite get it.

Hi Taiga-chan, Just looked over the XP2ESD, the back ports of drivers is awesome. Really nice release. I'm going to start looking over Config_XP-64_29Dec19.7z. It looks like it needs to be custom tailored based on the configuration you would like.