Mathwiz Posted February 22 Posted February 22 On 2/18/2026 at 11:24 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said: Last November, Cloudflare would infinite loop when I was on a browser version *only* TWO versions "old" "prior". Infinite loop in Official Chrome v136 and in Official Chromium v136. Only way to get past Cloudflare was to upgrade to v138 (but updated to v140 for other reasons). And just last month, this site would also Cloudflare infinite loop when I was on a browser *only* THREE versions "old" "prior". Infinite loop in Official Chrome v140 and in Official Chromium v140. Only way to get past Cloudflare was to upgrade to v143. Conspiracy theory (meaning, don't take this seriously): Google has a secret agreement with CloudFlare to force users to update to the latest Chrome by breaking older browser versions as soon as Google releases newer ones. Happens to affect Chromium too, but most users are on official Chrome or ChrEdge. 3
adata Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Palemoon win64, basilisk win64, xp64 Table does not load, only the inscription "loading" is displayed and we wait indefinitely e.g. https://www.sejm.gov.pl/Sejm10.nsf/Glosowanie.xsp?posiedzenie=49&glosowanie=1 https://www.sejm.gov.pl/Sejm10.nsf/Glosowanie.xsp?posiedzenie=51&glosowanie=1 1
VistaLover Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) @adata This has been harvested from a UXP-based browser's WebConsole: TypeError: Object.groupBy is not a function A G-search then finds: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Object/groupBy https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Object/groupBy#browser_compatibility Minimum supported browser version: Firefox 119 (Release date: 2023-10-24) i.e. upstream (MCP) would have to implement that support (I'm not holding my breath, though ) ... Regards. Edited February 22 by VistaLover
NotHereToPlayGames Posted February 22 Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, VistaLover said: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Object/groupBy <OT> Never know what discoveries will be revealed just by reading MSFN. The above link's run/reset ability was "broken" by a "Disable OpenSearch" userscript that I've been using for 7yrs (here) without issue. Updated to a version only 3yrs old (here) and all is right with the world again.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, VistaLover said: TypeError: Object.groupBy is not a function One of the below should work as a fix (have not tried yet, will tomorrow). https://learnersbucket.com/examples/interview/groupby-polyfill-in-javascript/ https://gist.github.com/gtrabanco/7c97bd41aa74af974fa935bfb5044b6e https://www.npmjs.com/package/groupby-polyfill?activeTab=code Edited February 22 by NotHereToPlayGames
exogenesis Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) @roytam1 A few problems that I will list here, these are problems that I have seen with Newmoon for a long time excuses please if one or more are already known. #1 Browser Window Randomly Disappears (tabs not tested, I don't use them) When two or more browser windows are open sometimes one will disappear until the browser is closed. While sometimes the browser window will show again when one of the other browser windows have been closed. #2 Browser Windows order swapping around (tabs not tested, I don't use them) Also sometimes with two or more browser windows open one window will change its order it had been with another Example three browser windows A, B and C They are like this A B C but then randomly they are like this B A C This happens more on browsing a new site and while the page loads #1 And #2 Additional to the above Whether this has something to do with #1 and/or #2 above. When loading or browsing further on the the second, or maybe a third window or open a new window. While loading will lose focus from that window and focus more usually on the first window (focus as in swap view to another window). Then needing to keep re-focus back to the window that lost focus, #3 Pictures are not been shown in saved web pages when viewed offline When save a browser window for later offline viewing I notice the pictures are stored in some filename.PJP base64 code. When a saved web page is then viewed later offline without an internet connection. Either using browser Work Offline or without selection that option. Many of the saved pictures on the web page are not able to be viewed. I had posted about this previously here that explains what is shown instead of the pictures https://msfn.org/board/topic/186930-save-a-single-web-page-or-a-complete-thread-of-web-pages-for-offline-viewing/ I save web page as is with File > Save Page As (CTRL_S) It would be very helpful if this can be fixed, so I am able to view all the pictures and not just a few. Edited February 23 by exogenesis Added Additional
exogenesis Posted February 22 Posted February 22 @roytam1 Just some feedback of your new browser changes the previous with ICU63.dll and the later with ICU78.dll With the icu78.dll the browser crashes more and a debug will always point to xul.dll as the problem The browser also uses much more memory and always has a very high 99%-100% CPU load while browser is open I have returned to safety of the last release with icu63.dll palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z that is without issues of the icu78.dll. I will keep trying the newer releases when I see them to check for when you have the problem cured.
modnar Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) I'm now testing two new changes that are in FireFerret_ESR 115.32.1 and not in Serpent 52.9: browser.cache.disk.max_chunks_memory_usage = 40960 (instead of 10240) browser.cache.disk.max_priority_chunks_memory_usage = 40960 (instead of 10240) It does help some, smoother, but at least on imgur.com there still seems to be memory leak happening or crazy scripts, I don't know... Edited February 25 by modnar results 1
roytam1 Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260228-3219d2d-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260228-3219d2d-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260228-3219d2d-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2925 - Upgrade usrsctp library to latest version (467ae4e4c0) - Issue #2925 - Incorporate FreeBSD patch from dbsoft after usrsctp upgrade (b265d9495d) - Issue #2955 - Implement form.requestSubmit(element) (c9bdbd5603) - No issue - Fix cairo warnings (483762871c) - Optimize ClusterIterator::Next (31c8f3a154) - [gfx] Use gzip stream total_out for SVG document parsing. (dccd7b8d91) - Issue #2925 - Upgrade libvpx to 1.16.0 (d2e1911345) - Issue #2925 - Work around x86 bug in libvpx (7fd68dfdf5) - Issue #2925 - Fix Windows x64 (a818241ec2) - Issue #2925 followup - Restore previous GlobalFree behavior from before SCTP upgrade in sctp_bsd_addr.c (3762b659ef) - No issue - Don't assign non-live hash table entry. (6aa3331bdb) - No issue - Modernize nsWindowWatcher (ce7568ee26) - [WASM] Improve WasmModuleObject handling in WasmJS.cpp (b7a01d4900) - [WASM] Make sure to assign module (7bef52f38c) - [WebRTC] Ensure valid image size. (88c5c138bd) - [WebAudio] Gracefully handle mid-stream audio changes. (2e1ea67336) - Issue #2965 - Update libtheora to 1.2.0. (73afe93840) - Issue #2925 - Follow-up: Fix Mac Intel and PowerPC 10.5-10.11 builds. clock_gettime() is not available prior to 10.12, so use Mach's clock_get_time(). pthread_setname_np() is not available prior to MacOS 10.6, so guard that. libvpx does not support big endian, so only use VPX acceleration on ppc64le. (21f5bacd70) - [libjar] Throw when we know a file was truncated. (bd7aecb37b) - [MFBT] Reduce size() calls in subspan. (8bc63bffbc) - [parser] Account for some corner-case structural document issues. (49e8159c0a) - No issue - Fix build issue. (be0566f463) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - vpx: try to restore pre-vista code paths. (3d4c07fc59) - webrtc: disable VP9 flexibleMode usage (8864f23162) - sctp: change back `FREE(pAdapterAddrs)` to `GlobalFree(pAdapterAddrs)` as `pAdapterAddrs` is not allocated with `MALLOC()` (c43b4d7704) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. 5
roytam1 Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260228-40a79c75-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260228-40a79c75-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260228-id-656ea98-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260228-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild 1
roytam1 Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260228-a4c4ab041-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260228-a4c4ab041-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - ported from UXP: - Issue #2925 - Upgrade usrsctp library to latest version (467ae4e4) - Issue #2925 - Incorporate FreeBSD patch from dbsoft after usrsctp upgrade (b265d949) (6eeba876c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2955 - Implement form.requestSubmit(element) (c9bdbd56) (00cd1f8e4) - ported from UXP: No issue - Fix cairo warnings (48376287) (14d3bcf2a) - ported from `custom` branch of UXP: - Issue #2925 - Upgrade libvpx to 1.16.0 (d2e19113) - Issue #2925 - Work around x86 bug in libvpx (7fd68dfd) - Issue #2925 - Fix Windows x64 (a818241e) - vpx: try to restore pre-vista code paths. (3d4c07fc) - webrtc: disable VP9 flexibleMode usage (8864f231) (683d474a7) - import from UXP: Optimize ClusterIterator::Next (31c8f3a1) (b29614d39) - import from UXP: [gfx] Use gzip stream total_out for SVG document parsing. (dccd7b8d) (b7a755a41) - import from `custom` branch of UXP: sctp: change back `FREE(pAdapterAddrs)` to `GlobalFree(pAdapterAddrs)` as `pAdapterAddrs` is not allocated with `MALLOC()` (c43b4d77) (ead39bac0) - import from UXP: No issue - Don't assign non-live hash table entry. (6aa3331b) (39e62d7cb) - ported from UXP: No issue - Modernize nsWindowWatcher (ce7568ee) (b2800f2c1) - import from UXP: [WASM] Improve WasmModuleObject handling in WasmJS.cpp (b7a01d49) (4b5e7a4a0) - import from UXP: [WASM] Make sure to assign module (7bef52f3) (85b7f4e06) - import from UXP: [WebRTC] Ensure valid image size. (88c5c138) (5d5f203d6) - import from UXP: [WebAudio] Gracefully handle mid-stream audio changes. (2e1ea673) (7f904f83f) - import from UXP: Issue #2965 - Update libtheora to 1.2.0. (73afe938) (81155da1a) - import from UXP: Issue #2925 - Follow-up: Fix Mac Intel and PowerPC 10.5-10.11 builds. clock_gettime() is not available prior to 10.12, so use Mach's clock_get_time(). pthread_setname_np() is not available prior to MacOS 10.6, so guard that. libvpx does not support big endian, so only use VPX acceleration on ppc64le. (21f5bacd) (d507d5e0c) - import from UXP: [libjar] Throw when we know a file was truncated. (bd7aecb3) (a4a6cf437) - import from UXP: [MFBT] Reduce size() calls in subspan. (8bc63bff) (917f8d5ef) - import from UXP: [parser] Account for some corner-case structural document issues. (49e8159c) (fd224ed58) - import from UXP: No issue - Fix build issue. (be0566f4) (a4c4ab041) 1
reboot12 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Yes, I have cloudflare loop in betaarchive.com - not possible enter to site
roytam1 Posted March 1 Author Posted March 1 12 hours ago, reboot12 said: Yes, I have cloudflare loop in betaarchive.com - not possible enter to site no problem here, try enabling firefox compatibility mode first.
reboot12 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, roytam1 said: no problem here, try enabling firefox compatibility mode first. How do it?
roytam1 Posted March 1 Author Posted March 1 8 minutes ago, reboot12 said: How do it? Preferences -> Advanced -> User Agent Mode
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