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These are the elements that Palemoon has issues when I visit Github that max the CPU and stays high until I work out which one to Zap*. Will be nice when Palemoon becomes upto date with github code for no more high CPU there. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases Rotating Circle <circle cx="8" cy="8" r="7" stroke="currentColor" stroke-opacity="0.25" stroke-width="2" vector-effect="non-scaling-stroke" fill="none"></circle> <path d="M15 8a7.002 7.002 0 00-7-7" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" vector-effect="non-scaling-stroke"></path> https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues Open Closed Buttons (polyfill shadows) <div class="LoadingSkeleton-module__skeleton__euqGn LoadingSkeleton-module__pill__Dlvex SectionFilterLink-module__counterLabelSkeleton__DhRz4" style="width:32px;height:18px"></div> <div class="LoadingSkeleton-module__skeleton__euqGn LoadingSkeleton-module__pill__Dlvex SectionFilterLink-module__counterLabelSkeleton__DhRz4" style="width:32px;height:18px"></div> Below I tested the violentmonkey project for interested to see if same and what if any changes made with Palemoon viewing Github On loading max high cpu I used the zap Anything Add-on the assets circle - this is what the Palemoon developer showed for the element code (below). Afterwards the cpu dropped low and after went high max and remained continuous at cpu max. At times like these we need the Super Stop Add-on for Palemoon with a button the reacts fast when selected. https://github.com/violentmonkey/violentmonkey/releases/tag/v2.47.1 <span data-view-componment="true"> <svg style="box-sizing: content-box; color: var(--color-icon-primary); outline-width: medium; outline-style: none; outline-color: currentcolor;" width="32" height="32" viewBox="0 0 16 16" fill="none" aria-hidden="true" data-view-component="true" class="anim-rotate"> </svg> . * Zap Anything v1.4.2 (falna) add-on basic but does items and can help the cpu to stay lower removing those items (not ideal but what other have we got) At Github projects such as youtube-dl and other ones. Look at issues page select a user post. The only part of the post that can be viewed its the original poster post, never now are replies able to be viewed. palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260815-d849524bd-uxp-e5e0e958e3-xpmod-sse

Archive.org Wayback crashes (while viewing text type sites or other) Crash with fairly recent palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260526--xpmod-sse palemoon.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0128bd90 in module mozjs.dll Reading from location 00000000. Registers: eax=0c537020 ebx=001af301 ecx=0000001d edx=16fb5100 esi=00000000 edi=00000000 eip=0128bd90 esp=001af1c0 ebp=001af1cc iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246 Call stack: 0128BD90 mozjs.dll:0128BD90 class JSObject * __cdecl js::UncheckedUnwrap(class JSObject *,bool,unsigned int *) 038C231C xul.dll:038C231C mozilla_dump_image 0340B02F xul.dll:0340B02F mozilla_dump_image 0340FD98 xul.dll:0340FD98 mozilla_dump_image 034124C9 xul.dll:034124C9 mozilla_dump_image 02D7EAFC xul.dll:02D7EAFC public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 03469BAE xul.dll:03469BAE mozilla_dump_image 03A47580 xul.dll:03A47580 mozilla_dump_image 02D7895F xul.dll:02D7895F public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 02D7832F xul.dll:02D7832F public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 02D80900 xul.dll:02D80900 public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 034BF9DE xul.dll:034BF9DE mozilla_dump_image 034A5455 xul.dll:034A5455 mozilla_dump_image 02DC48D6 xul.dll:02DC48D6 XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DC1E51 xul.dll:02DC1E51 XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DBFE2C xul.dll:02DBFE2C XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DDA239 xul.dll:02DDA239 NS_StringGetMutableData 02F5C8F6 xul.dll:02F5C8F6 public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 02F48046 xul.dll:02F48046 public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 02F47D4E xul.dll:02F47D4E public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 03E0618F xul.dll:03E0618F public: bool __thiscall mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range::Merge(class mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range const &) 03E45933 xul.dll:03E45933 public: bool __thiscall mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range::Merge(class mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range const &) 042D5F30 xul.dll:042D5F30 XRE_StartupTimelineRecord 042EBD15 xul.dll:042EBD15 XRE_GetFileFromPath 042EAB92 xul.dll:042EAB92 XRE_GetFileFromPath 042EC641 xul.dll:042EC641 XRE_main 004018C4 palemoon.exe:004018C4 00401479 palemoon.exe:00401479 00401BEF palemoon.exe:00401BEF 004027A1 palemoon.exe:004027A1 7C817067 kernel32.dll:7C817067 RegisterWaitForInputIdle Crash with an older palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20231230--xpmod-sse palemoon.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0128bd90 in module mozjs.dll Reading from location 00000000. Registers: eax=14e1d1c0 ebx=001af301 ecx=0000001d edx=0b805e20 esi=00000000 edi=00000000 eip=0128bd90 esp=001af1c0 ebp=001af1cc iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246 Call stack: 0128BD90 mozjs.dll:0128BD90 class JSObject * __cdecl js::UncheckedUnwrap(class JSObject *,bool,unsigned int *) 038C231C xul.dll:038C231C mozilla_dump_image 0340B02F xul.dll:0340B02F mozilla_dump_image 0340FD98 xul.dll:0340FD98 mozilla_dump_image 034124C9 xul.dll:034124C9 mozilla_dump_image 02D7EAFC xul.dll:02D7EAFC public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 03469BAE xul.dll:03469BAE mozilla_dump_image 03A47580 xul.dll:03A47580 mozilla_dump_image 02D7895F xul.dll:02D7895F public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 02D7832F xul.dll:02D7832F public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 02D80900 xul.dll:02D80900 public: virtual unsigned long __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::AddRef(void) 034BF9DE xul.dll:034BF9DE mozilla_dump_image 034A5455 xul.dll:034A5455 mozilla_dump_image 02DC48D6 xul.dll:02DC48D6 XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DC1E51 xul.dll:02DC1E51 XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DBFE2C xul.dll:02DBFE2C XRE_AddStaticComponent 02DDA239 xul.dll:02DDA239 NS_StringGetMutableData 02F5C8F6 xul.dll:02F5C8F6 public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 02F48046 xul.dll:02F48046 public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 02F47D4E xul.dll:02F47D4E public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::net::LoadInfo::SetVerifySignedContent(bool) 03E0618F xul.dll:03E0618F public: bool __thiscall mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range::Merge(class mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range const &) 03E45933 xul.dll:03E45933 public: bool __thiscall mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range::Merge(class mozilla::NormalizedConstraintSet::Range const &) 042D5F30 xul.dll:042D5F30 XRE_StartupTimelineRecord 042EBD15 xul.dll:042EBD15 XRE_GetFileFromPath 042EAB92 xul.dll:042EAB92 XRE_GetFileFromPath 042EC641 xul.dll:042EC641 XRE_main 004018C4 palemoon.exe:004018C4 00401479 palemoon.exe:00401479 00401BEF palemoon.exe:00401BEF 004027A1 palemoon.exe:004027A1 7C817067 kernel32.dll:7C817067 RegisterWaitForInputIdle System: XP-SP3-SSE

https://iso.reactos.org/ Select BootCD or LiveCD folder both of these for many years take a while forever to load the page I guess browser or maybe P3 arch. Any known about:config, script, plugin that can help load the complete page faster. Ask as I did see similar situation decades ago with Firefox with similar pages and after a while loaded faster. I forget after all this time if the site, browser got a fix or it was something I read and applied to help the browser to load the page faster.

Thanks for your replies I understand the reasons now. Seems MSFN could do with unlimited space with minimum cost. Thankfully the MSFN forum owner has allowed Wayback to archive MSFN. Although I think the forum owner should contact Wayback and invite them here to MSFN more often to archive the site through the night when the forum is quiet. Should we say each day or a week well no longer than a month. The more MSFN is archived the better we all are for having MSFN archived. This detailed guide https://msfn.org/board/topic/183295-web-browser-proxomitron-reborn-ptrongui-a-how-to-guide and has 22 guide pictures. No pictures is a loss to MSFN and the guide and everyone who needs to follow the guide. The guide was written 16 January 2022 and Wayback only has 3 copies of this guide archived with pictures those dates are 11 March 2022, 17 May 2022 and 01 July 2022 and that is it which is not good news at all so very easily lost which Wayback is good at doing. If you look at MSFN at Wayback you see all the archived captures https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://msfn.org/board/ But it is the pictures that are most missing as posts have said above each user has only a limited space and will need to delete when they make lots of posts with pictures which pictures are always nice. Off site picture graphics hosted server sites are near if not all are useless they are either already dead, or need you to join the site or more lately you are in the wrong country. All means those Picture hosting server sites have all but failed to deliver what they are meant to deliver to everyone anywhere. Those sites just don't work as they intended them to work, so they are not a long term option to rely on. What other option have we than Wayback to archive MSFN more often than it does now, which is good for the site to have a constant public archive got as long as possible with all graphics. BTW the graphics as in my first post those types do not show on Wayback. Something the site owner can do to ensure that those graphics are also able to be archived, so when viewed at Wayback they do show correctly as we view them here.

All pictures I guess on this thread are not showing this is the first post with the missing graphics That said I have seen another post today where the graphics are showing both of these The pictures are those each author has uploaded to the MSFN server to be shown in the post.

No I didn't read all of what you wrote, and I have tried a few times to read over the months. In future for your posts I will copy them to a notepad, and space out you have written, then easy to read and digest. Extensions they have a bad habit on waiting on the CPU when the CPU is Maxed. It does seem that some scripts are not so effected by CPU maxed and can react faster. I do realize you are in the creative process of UC.JS/UC.XUL scripting UC.JS/UC.XUL scripts. I do have hope these scripts will be the type that can also cut through the CPU Max staying high after the web page loads scripts. SuperStop for GIFs - I am not using it for any GIFs or have any plans to (unless I need to - not so far). The Purpose for using this script is only to stop the CPU Maxed after the web page has loaded. So with one or two left mouse button clicks it does stop a page loading dead. Which means it takes the CPU from maximum high 100% down to 0%-2% CPU instantly and there the CPU remains at 0-2% which is the normal background for this CPU with the OS running, when it is at idle. Hope for the same results with NewMoon28

Network Monitoring Tools All These can record max speed CurrrPorts will only show it until refresh. LiveTCP-UDPWatch will retain it if Menu Info > Sort On Every Update > is disabled NirSoft CurrPorts and LiveTCP-UDPWatch https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/live_tcp_udp_watch.html For a graphical viewer NetGraph can show any speed max you ask of it, even shows all speed spikes. The max speed shown is whatever you set the max speed, now or the future speeds KB/sec and Bytes/sec in the older XP version I use, version unknown, not shown. NetGraph can pause the graph from advancing further then take a screenshot, mouse over, look one of the logs maybe more options in newer versions NetGraph https://www.wintools.info/ (more tools at the bottom of this main page) NetGraph Version: 1.8.0.69 | Date: 2019-03-26 | Download | MD5: fc0fd2be50d916287ee50bee63504d8a https://www.wintools.info/Download/netgraph.exe

Custom Buttons MyPal SuperStop I know it works I know it is good and does stop them dead. Needing this now more for Newmoon28 SSE I read you are changing these to be better I'm not sure where you are at in development or have completed that. Is there this update archive pack available of all the Custom Buttons to download with new uncomplicated install instructions for NewMoon28. I have downloaded custom_buttons-0.0.5.8.9-fixed8-signed.xpi it's date is 2018 Has a look in the archive [ \custombuttons.jar\content\custombuttons\ ] is SuperStop in or one if these renamed. Or is there an extension that is it SuperStop that works with newmoon28 and that works like SuperStop to kill the page dead when needed with delay of high CPU that many extensions have a problem with. JustOff github.io there are his 30 extensions I guess you may have got these to try yourself. Do have you a link of all of these zipped up

@basilisk-dev @schwups @raddy and anyone else if any I may have missed. I Thank You all for helping me with this problem. Distrowatch had changed and XP is working again since I added the suggested UA Thanks again

about:memory - buttons GC and CC shows these words in other browsers maybe Supermium the same What is the latest version for XP-SP3 running with SSE CPU (a best version of any major change build variations)

@roytam1 U have been unable to visit this site below for many new moons. Here is what I get when try to visit the site https://distrowatch.com 403 Forbidden Browser Web Page Content: Forbidden You don't have permission to access this resource. and if do so using www which is is not the normal url of the site https://www.distrowatch.com Problem loading page Browser Content: Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to www.distrowatch.com. SSL received a malformed Server Hello handshake message. (Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_MALFORMED_SERVER_HELLO) The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Digicert has weird results and SSL Labs is unable to test it. Two other people have tested the site working and showing correctly they were using Supermium 138 and a Chrome browser latest version. Both people were able to visit the site.

@roytam1 Tested with two recent browsers listed below that have been released since the above posts were posted. palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z Fixed: #1 and #2 I have not seen any issue of either of these with the windows in either recent build #3 A few sites tested. Failed: MSFN web page save of this thread page one. With the Web page saved the browser closed and with the internet connection turned off. Started the browser and loaded in the saved web page the first three pictures do not show and all the other pictures do show. I have tested other sites but they differ from MSFN where all the pictures show. In the webpage saved_files folder all pictures are single .pjp files maybe this is the reason why other sites site to load all their pictures. Or maybe this site or the browser still need optimizing or a code fix. Fixed: This problem seems fixed I tested with these two recent Palemoon-28 browsers listed below palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z This said the browser still does hog the CPU very high and more so than the browser I keep going back to where the CPU is less palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250927-d849524bd-uxp-50b6047c84-xpmod-sse.7z MAX CPU with these web sites with the two lastest recent builds. these site really push the CPU and take forever and an age to reduce for a moment before CPU high again. Reddit not (using the old.reddit with any Palemoon-28 we can now look at this after so many new moons have past. But normal reddit site not the old.reddit CPU max Archive.org (Near impossible more so with searching and all the pictures old Palemoon-28 version easily handles this) Github (another where need to use the older Palemoon-28. OffTopic-Addons: is there better Palefill-Polyfill v1.30 that works with this site and other sites to show all the written words and work correctly.) Startpage Anonymous surfing for any site that doesn't progress to any site just sits there with a black operatic mask inside a bouncing circle, web page does nothing and CPU max This site does the same with older Palemoon-28 builds also.

@roytam1 Just some feedback of your new browser changes the previous with ICU63.dll and the later with ICU78.dll With the icu78.dll the browser crashes more and a debug will always point to xul.dll as the problem The browser also uses much more memory and always has a very high 99%-100% CPU load while browser is open I have returned to safety of the last release with icu63.dll palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z that is without issues of the icu78.dll. I will keep trying the newer releases when I see them to check for when you have the problem cured.

@roytam1 A few problems that I will list here, these are problems that I have seen with Newmoon for a long time excuses please if one or more are already known. #1 Browser Window Randomly Disappears (tabs not tested, I don't use them) When two or more browser windows are open sometimes one will disappear until the browser is closed. While sometimes the browser window will show again when one of the other browser windows have been closed. #2 Browser Windows order swapping around (tabs not tested, I don't use them) Also sometimes with two or more browser windows open one window will change its order it had been with another Example three browser windows A, B and C They are like this A B C but then randomly they are like this B A C This happens more on browsing a new site and while the page loads #1 And #2 Additional to the above Whether this has something to do with #1 and/or #2 above. When loading or browsing further on the the second, or maybe a third window or open a new window. While loading will lose focus from that window and focus more usually on the first window (focus as in swap view to another window). Then needing to keep re-focus back to the window that lost focus, #3 Pictures are not been shown in saved web pages when viewed offline When save a browser window for later offline viewing I notice the pictures are stored in some filename.PJP base64 code. When a saved web page is then viewed later offline without an internet connection. Either using browser Work Offline or without selection that option. Many of the saved pictures on the web page are not able to be viewed. I had posted about this previously here that explains what is shown instead of the pictures https://msfn.org/board/topic/186930-save-a-single-web-page-or-a-complete-thread-of-web-pages-for-offline-viewing/ I save web page as is with File > Save Page As (CTRL_S) It would be very helpful if this can be fixed, so I am able to view all the pictures and not just a few.