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Thanks for your replies I understand the reasons now. Seems MSFN could do with unlimited space with minimum cost. Thankfully the MSFN forum owner has allowed Wayback to archive MSFN. Although I think the forum owner should contact Wayback and invite them here to MSFN more often to archive the site through the night when the forum is quiet. Should we say each day or a week well no longer than a month. The more MSFN is archived the better we all are for having MSFN archived. This detailed guide https://msfn.org/board/topic/183295-web-browser-proxomitron-reborn-ptrongui-a-how-to-guide and has 22 guide pictures. No pictures is a loss to MSFN and the guide and everyone who needs to follow the guide. The guide was written 16 January 2022 and Wayback only has 3 copies of this guide archived with pictures those dates are 11 March 2022, 17 May 2022 and 01 July 2022 and that is it which is not good news at all so very easily lost which Wayback is good at doing. If you look at MSFN at Wayback you see all the archived captures https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://msfn.org/board/ But it is the pictures that are most missing as posts have said above each user has only a limited space and will need to delete when they make lots of posts with pictures which pictures are always nice. Off site picture graphics hosted server sites are near if not all are useless they are either already dead, or need you to join the site or more lately you are in the wrong country. All means those Picture hosting server sites have all but failed to deliver what they are meant to deliver to everyone anywhere. Those sites just don't work as they intended them to work, so they are not a long term option to rely on. What other option have we than Wayback to archive MSFN more often than it does now, which is good for the site to have a constant public archive got as long as possible with all graphics. BTW the graphics as in my first post those types do not show on Wayback. Something the site owner can do to ensure that those graphics are also able to be archived, so when viewed at Wayback they do show correctly as we view them here.

All pictures I guess on this thread are not showing this is the first post with the missing graphics That said I have seen another post today where the graphics are showing both of these The pictures are those each author has uploaded to the MSFN server to be shown in the post.

No I didn't read all of what you wrote, and I have tried a few times to read over the months. In future for your posts I will copy them to a notepad, and space out you have written, then easy to read and digest. Extensions they have a bad habit on waiting on the CPU when the CPU is Maxed. It does seem that some scripts are not so effected by CPU maxed and can react faster. I do realize you are in the creative process of UC.JS/UC.XUL scripting UC.JS/UC.XUL scripts. I do have hope these scripts will be the type that can also cut through the CPU Max staying high after the web page loads scripts. SuperStop for GIFs - I am not using it for any GIFs or have any plans to (unless I need to - not so far). The Purpose for using this script is only to stop the CPU Maxed after the web page has loaded. So with one or two left mouse button clicks it does stop a page loading dead. Which means it takes the CPU from maximum high 100% down to 0%-2% CPU instantly and there the CPU remains at 0-2% which is the normal background for this CPU with the OS running, when it is at idle. Hope for the same results with NewMoon28

Network Monitoring Tools All These can record max speed CurrrPorts will only show it until refresh. LiveTCP-UDPWatch will retain it if Menu Info > Sort On Every Update > is disabled NirSoft CurrPorts and LiveTCP-UDPWatch https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/live_tcp_udp_watch.html For a graphical viewer NetGraph can show any speed max you ask of it, even shows all speed spikes. The max speed shown is whatever you set the max speed, now or the future speeds KB/sec and Bytes/sec in the older XP version I use, version unknown, not shown. NetGraph can pause the graph from advancing further then take a screenshot, mouse over, look one of the logs maybe more options in newer versions NetGraph https://www.wintools.info/ (more tools at the bottom of this main page) NetGraph Version: 1.8.0.69 | Date: 2019-03-26 | Download | MD5: fc0fd2be50d916287ee50bee63504d8a https://www.wintools.info/Download/netgraph.exe

Custom Buttons MyPal SuperStop I know it works I know it is good and does stop them dead. Needing this now more for Newmoon28 SSE I read you are changing these to be better I'm not sure where you are at in development or have completed that. Is there this update archive pack available of all the Custom Buttons to download with new uncomplicated install instructions for NewMoon28. I have downloaded custom_buttons-0.0.5.8.9-fixed8-signed.xpi it's date is 2018 Has a look in the archive [ \custombuttons.jar\content\custombuttons\ ] is SuperStop in or one if these renamed. Or is there an extension that is it SuperStop that works with newmoon28 and that works like SuperStop to kill the page dead when needed with delay of high CPU that many extensions have a problem with. JustOff github.io there are his 30 extensions I guess you may have got these to try yourself. Do have you a link of all of these zipped up

@basilisk-dev @schwups @raddy and anyone else if any I may have missed. I Thank You all for helping me with this problem. Distrowatch had changed and XP is working again since I added the suggested UA Thanks again

about:memory - buttons GC and CC shows these words in other browsers maybe Supermium the same What is the latest version for XP-SP3 running with SSE CPU (a best version of any major change build variations)

@roytam1 U have been unable to visit this site below for many new moons. Here is what I get when try to visit the site https://distrowatch.com 403 Forbidden Browser Web Page Content: Forbidden You don't have permission to access this resource. and if do so using www which is is not the normal url of the site https://www.distrowatch.com Problem loading page Browser Content: Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to www.distrowatch.com. SSL received a malformed Server Hello handshake message. (Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_MALFORMED_SERVER_HELLO) The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Digicert has weird results and SSL Labs is unable to test it. Two other people have tested the site working and showing correctly they were using Supermium 138 and a Chrome browser latest version. Both people were able to visit the site.

@roytam1 Tested with two recent browsers listed below that have been released since the above posts were posted. palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z Fixed: #1 and #2 I have not seen any issue of either of these with the windows in either recent build #3 A few sites tested. Failed: MSFN web page save of this thread page one. With the Web page saved the browser closed and with the internet connection turned off. Started the browser and loaded in the saved web page the first three pictures do not show and all the other pictures do show. I have tested other sites but they differ from MSFN where all the pictures show. In the webpage saved_files folder all pictures are single .pjp files maybe this is the reason why other sites site to load all their pictures. Or maybe this site or the browser still need optimizing or a code fix. Fixed: This problem seems fixed I tested with these two recent Palemoon-28 browsers listed below palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260228-d849524bd-uxp-67885784d2-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260307-d849524bd-uxp-2a33ab0e2c-xpmod-sse.7z This said the browser still does hog the CPU very high and more so than the browser I keep going back to where the CPU is less palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250927-d849524bd-uxp-50b6047c84-xpmod-sse.7z MAX CPU with these web sites with the two lastest recent builds. these site really push the CPU and take forever and an age to reduce for a moment before CPU high again. Reddit not (using the old.reddit with any Palemoon-28 we can now look at this after so many new moons have past. But normal reddit site not the old.reddit CPU max Archive.org (Near impossible more so with searching and all the pictures old Palemoon-28 version easily handles this) Github (another where need to use the older Palemoon-28. OffTopic-Addons: is there better Palefill-Polyfill v1.30 that works with this site and other sites to show all the written words and work correctly.) Startpage Anonymous surfing for any site that doesn't progress to any site just sits there with a black operatic mask inside a bouncing circle, web page does nothing and CPU max This site does the same with older Palemoon-28 builds also.

@roytam1 Just some feedback of your new browser changes the previous with ICU63.dll and the later with ICU78.dll With the icu78.dll the browser crashes more and a debug will always point to xul.dll as the problem The browser also uses much more memory and always has a very high 99%-100% CPU load while browser is open I have returned to safety of the last release with icu63.dll palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z that is without issues of the icu78.dll. I will keep trying the newer releases when I see them to check for when you have the problem cured.

@roytam1 A few problems that I will list here, these are problems that I have seen with Newmoon for a long time excuses please if one or more are already known. #1 Browser Window Randomly Disappears (tabs not tested, I don't use them) When two or more browser windows are open sometimes one will disappear until the browser is closed. While sometimes the browser window will show again when one of the other browser windows have been closed. #2 Browser Windows order swapping around (tabs not tested, I don't use them) Also sometimes with two or more browser windows open one window will change its order it had been with another Example three browser windows A, B and C They are like this A B C but then randomly they are like this B A C This happens more on browsing a new site and while the page loads #1 And #2 Additional to the above Whether this has something to do with #1 and/or #2 above. When loading or browsing further on the the second, or maybe a third window or open a new window. While loading will lose focus from that window and focus more usually on the first window (focus as in swap view to another window). Then needing to keep re-focus back to the window that lost focus, #3 Pictures are not been shown in saved web pages when viewed offline When save a browser window for later offline viewing I notice the pictures are stored in some filename.PJP base64 code. When a saved web page is then viewed later offline without an internet connection. Either using browser Work Offline or without selection that option. Many of the saved pictures on the web page are not able to be viewed. I had posted about this previously here that explains what is shown instead of the pictures https://msfn.org/board/topic/186930-save-a-single-web-page-or-a-complete-thread-of-web-pages-for-offline-viewing/ I save web page as is with File > Save Page As (CTRL_S) It would be very helpful if this can be fixed, so I am able to view all the pictures and not just a few.

The browser I was using was Roytam1 Newmoon28-sse browser it is recent build 2025-08-08 I will update it and a;so try with other browsers. I see a file that is maybe it's a base64 orientated which cold have all the pictures. Now understand for your thinking all the pictures should be there and showing. As the web page did download completely. After updating and trying with other browsers if I am still getting the same results I will let Roytam1 know in his thread my-browser-builds-part-5 Thanks for the info Tripredacus

I did a search of this forum as I would think such a question would only be asked or posted here. I did find this old 2008 post https://msfn.org/board/topic/123267-how-to-save-pages-of-forum/ where a poster Kiki Burgh suggested "try clicking on Options -> Download this topic ... choose which format serves you best" Is this option still in use, where it located ! Today I tried to download a single web page https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/page/1/ This web page I saved for offline viewing. When viewed offline the page did not have all the pictures saved instead of pictures is written Offline mode Pale Moon is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web. Press "Try Again" to switch to online mode and reload the page. Try Again

OT maybe or as a extra info. I have tried both of these extensions with MyPal68.14.x SSE build for XPSP3 both will install ok Windscribe showed with an icon on a bar after install. After setting the login option with the exact correct details copy and paste and later typed manually. Maybe version is not right for MyPal or something else as the login is correct. I think I was maybe able to login to Windscribe site also with the same login or maybe that was something else I forget now. Here are two different errors it would present when trying to login _____________________________ can not be turned on without creds source: just switch proxy from UI authCookie reloaded: true _____________________________ _____________________________ can not be turned on without creds, source:loginWithStoredCredentials on clean run authCookie reloaded: true _____________________________ Browsec when installed in MyPal68 nothing is seen anywhere no options nothing, just like when it is installed to a Roytam1 NewMoon28 build

Apologies if needed for revitalizing this old thread but is relevant to both of these extensions and where I read about them initially. I have tried a few times with different builds of Roytam1 NewMoon28 browsers built for XPSP3 SSE These Are The extensions I have Windscribe_Internet_As_It_Should_Be-0.1.61-fx.xpi MD5: 2D7774E5621619FCC920C0FE7CFC1064 SHA1: 8024A26805BB4B132DD7580D688D53FB15AE4EC1 I remember the file linked above wasn't available at the time and still isn't from the above URL. This one I got from the Classic Add-Ons Archive extension maybe, or from Windscribe site using the Wayback site. Browsec-3.16.16.2_unofficial.xpi MD5: B06980A616A2AA065B80D4E7E3121B39 SHA1: 4731EA861457F34563238B1DAFDA17392CE6AE31 Unknown Source I cannot remember reason for MD5 and SHA1 I cannot remember if the file linked above was or wasn't available from the above URL so MD5 and SHA1 maybe help Another Browsec Browsec-3.16.16.2_unofficial.xpi MD5: BC3A8F0CB96F61EADCCB92E696FA9D1B SHA1: 09279AE6839571258F760359ACF5136FCA97C62E Unknown location where this is from maybe both and above unknown source are from the Classic Add-Ons Archive Extension These extensions I have tried with Roytam1 NewMoon28 browsers, not installed at the same time. Their options don't show anywhere after install. I looked in these locations for them or info of them. New Window Private Window No Controls found in any controls menu File, Edit, View, History, Bookmarks, Tools, Help Customize Menu No icon or other presence of the extension Add-Ons Menus The Add-On panel Clicking and more no difference found or any options Profile folder Extensions and Extensions.ini does show the correct information of the installed Extension about:config also shows the extension installed _____________ quoted from above and in many other VPN extension posts here [ Note: in about:config parameter "network.cookie.cookieBehavior" should be set to 0, 1 or 3 ] What is the difference between 0, 1 and 3 (an which one is the more preferred for privacy) I have also tried with Roytam1 NewMoon28 build a Fresh Install. The same happens as when update a current build that nothing is seen after install of any options for either extension. It is with Roytam1 NewMoon28 builds I would like to have either Windscribe or Browsec working. Did you have to do something different to get either of these extensions to work, with preference , about:config or otherwise.

About addons I was thinking maybe an extra feature like NewMoon_(PaleMoon) has about:performance where selecting more on an add-on will show more information. Maybe this could be use to show us also real time how the add-on is performing in MyPal So user can make a better decision whether or not to keep the add-on. Maybe if you decide on it an idea for later.

Fresh Install Again With your latest release mypal-68.14.8b.en-US.win32-sse.zip that has the changed UCRTbase.dll file, This time on starting I get this. Pentium3 SSE PC XPPro mypal.exe caused an Illegal Instruction at location 64c8e653 in module xul.dll. Registers: eax=0f10e264 ebx=0002a349 ecx=001adcc0 edx=65b099f0 esi=001adef8 edi=001adf70 eip=64c8e653 esp=001adc98 ebp=001adc98 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000206 Call stack: 64C8E653 xul.dll:64C8E653 XRE_GetBootstrap 6508FDB8 xul.dll:6508FDB8 XRE_GetBootstrap 650ADFEE xul.dll:650ADFEE XRE_GetBootstrap 64D58118 xul.dll:64D58118 XRE_GetBootstrap 63CE9FD2 xul.dll:63CE9FD2 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CDCF57 xul.dll:63CDCF57 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CE5DF6 xul.dll:63CE5DF6 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 62C1512D xul.dll:62C1512D mozilla_dump_image 63CDAECD xul.dll:63CDAECD public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CDE41D xul.dll:63CDE41D public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CDE238 xul.dll:63CDE238 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CD4C6B xul.dll:63CD4C6B public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CD4185 xul.dll:63CD4185 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CD4990 xul.dll:63CD4990 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63CD5862 xul.dll:63CD5862 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 62C3D80A xul.dll:62C3D80A mozilla_dump_image 62C472CF xul.dll:62C472CF mozilla_dump_image 63D6D90A xul.dll:63D6D90A public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63D6D843 xul.dll:63D6D843 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 63D6D329 xul.dll:63D6D329 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 647280EC xul.dll:647280EC public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 64727D17 xul.dll:64727D17 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 6472A035 xul.dll:6472A035 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 6472A2EF xul.dll:6472A2EF public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 64743A71 xul.dll:64743A71 public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 6474C28F xul.dll:6474C28F public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 6474C60E xul.dll:6474C60E public: class soundtouch::SoundTouch & __thiscall soundtouch::SoundTouch::operator=(class soundtouch::SoundTouch const &) 648A5794 xul.dll:648A5794 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6490A647 xul.dll:6490A647 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 64908BE4 xul.dll:64908BE4 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6553DDC7 xul.dll:6553DDC7 public: void __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpMacroAssembler::LoadCurrentCharacter(int,class v8::internal::Label *,bool,int,int) 6269294A xul.dll:6269294A private: int __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::current(void) 62693B09 xul.dll:62693B09 private: int __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::current(void) 649C1E4C xul.dll:649C1E4C XRE_GetBootstrap 649C2441 xul.dll:649C2441 XRE_GetBootstrap 649BC5BD xul.dll:649BC5BD XRE_GetBootstrap 649B41B8 xul.dll:649B41B8 XRE_GetBootstrap 649C1F42 xul.dll:649C1F42 XRE_GetBootstrap 649C2441 xul.dll:649C2441 XRE_GetBootstrap 649C2485 xul.dll:649C2485 XRE_GetBootstrap 64BF2CA3 xul.dll:64BF2CA3 XRE_GetBootstrap 6268EFB1 xul.dll:6268EFB1 private: int __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::current(void) 6209C619 xul.dll:6209C619 private: int __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::captures_started(void) 6209B546 xul.dll:6209B546 private: int __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::captures_started(void) 62077570 xul.dll:62077570 private: class v8::internal::RegExpTree * __thiscall v8::internal::RegExpParser::GetPropertySequence(class v8::internal::ZoneVector const &) 64934358 xul.dll:64934358 XRE_GetBootstrap 6492E6D7 xul.dll:6492E6D7 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6492F2BE xul.dll:6492F2BE workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6492F856 xul.dll:6492F856 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 649350C1 xul.dll:649350C1 XRE_GetBootstrap 0040144F mypal.exe:0040144F 00401187 mypal.exe:00401187 00402BDC mypal.exe:00402BDC 7C817067 kernel32.dll:7C817067 RegisterWaitForInputIdle

What way do we use to find information of all extensions, that will show us those that are multi-process capable and those that are not. Is there an about:about type of page we can view for this or another way

mypal-68.14.8b.en-US.win32-sse Pentium3 SSE PC Greetings Feodor2. Just to let you know I tried this version mypal-68.14.8b.en-US.win32-sse.zip. And get a crash on starting MyPal running a Fresh Install mypal.exe caused an Illegal Instruction at location 0044c04c in module ucrtbase.dll. Registers: eax=001af314 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000025 edx=00000000 esi=65d70025 edi=00000000 eip=0044c04c esp=001af2e8 ebp=001af7a4 iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac pe cy cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000293 Call stack: 0044C04C ucrtbase.dll:0044C04C __stdio_common_vswprintf 0044B5FF ucrtbase.dll:0044B5FF __stdio_common_vswprintf 649309BA xul.dll:649309BA workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 64934763 xul.dll:64934763 XRE_GetBootstrap 64934644 xul.dll:64934644 XRE_GetBootstrap 64922853 xul.dll:64922853 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 64925A43 xul.dll:64925A43 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6492B025 xul.dll:6492B025 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6492F203 xul.dll:6492F203 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 6492F856 xul.dll:6492F856 workerlz4_maxCompressedSize 649350C1 xul.dll:649350C1 XRE_GetBootstrap 0040144F mypal.exe:0040144F 00401187 mypal.exe:00401187 00402BDC mypal.exe:00402BDC 7C817067 kernel32.dll:7C817067 RegisterWaitForInputIdle

@feodor2 here is my vote for further MyPal SSE builds

Thanks Roytam1 I read MyPal v68.13.8b started to support SSE CPU. That v68.13.8b was built for SSE only CPU. And that newer versions v68.14.0b and 68.14.1b do not support SSE the reason for the (0xc000001d) error. Just tried Mypal v68.13.8b and it runs. I assumed that newer versions would also support for SSE CPU as the release file name hadn't changed. Nice to have release file names for each release to know the CPU type the release runs on. mypal-68.13.8.en-US.win32.SSE.zip .. mypal-68.14.1.en-US.win32.SSE2+.zip Hope to see more SSE releases with update code changes added.

MyPal v 68.14.1 Event Type: Information Event Source: Application Popup Event Category: None Event ID: 26 Description: Application popup: mypal.exe - Application Error : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc000001d) OS: XPPro-SP3 PC: IntelP3

Open "view page source" and search for e.g. expanded_assets -> https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/expanded_assets/68.13.2b Thanks for the info I tested and downloaded the latest version. Many years I have missed many downloads at gitnub because of not knowing how to. Now should be able to download versions of MyPal that can run on SSE CPU when available. BTW the above way of browsing. One site at a time applies only to Commercial sites like Supermarkets.

A a note in case it makes a difference, browser opens to a blank window. I navigate to one shopping site never open or browser across two different sites at once.Never browse using Tabs. Example a supermarket site I would enter products page such as tinned foods and sub category for tinned food products list. From that list If need to view a product further I will open a new window and view it there. if need to compare that product with another product will open another window to do so. Then after compare the last window open will be closed leaving only two windows open. Normally no more than three windows open at any time. I don't use browsing tabs. Usually always never browser more than one site at a time.