My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[nicolaasjan]

1 hour ago, roytam1 said:

upstream got some follow-ups about it.

Is it:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/pulls/2768

?

[Mathwiz]

3 hours ago, nicolaasjan said:

Is it:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/pulls/2768

?

Unrelated to original problem, but WTF is this?

FWIW, r3dfox passes whatever this is and lets you in (eventually).

The WWW has become such an unpleasant place.

Edited 17 hours ago by Mathwiz

[Ben Markson]

1 hour ago, Mathwiz said:

Unrelated to original problem, but WTF is this?

FWIW, r3dfox passes whatever this is and lets you in (eventually).

The WWW has become such an unpleasant place.

It's Cloudflare, Jim, but not as we know it. Anubis is another clunky piece of software developed by people who believe that only selected browsers are allowed to use the internet. It seems to be predicated on the idea that any non-conformant browser must be evil.

Ironically, https://forums.mozillazine.org/ are using the exact same thing.

Ben.

[j7n]

I can pass the anime girl hash quicker than CloudFlare in New Moon, and it doesn't come back for some time. Cloudflare doesn't like when I switch to another application while it is milling. It wants me to keep it in the foreground and look at it.

[Leokids123]

1 hour ago, Ben Markson said:

It's Cloudflare, Jim, but not as we know it. Anubis is another clunky piece of software developed by people who believe that only selected browsers are allowed to use the internet. It seems to be predicated on the idea that any non-conformant browser must be evil.

Ironically, https://forums.mozillazine.org/ are using the exact same thing.

Ben.

Anubis,the clunky piece of software developed by non-conformant browser-hating people protects those kind of websites to avoid AI crawling.

Edited 14 hours ago by Leokids123

[roytam1]

6 hours ago, nicolaasjan said:

Is it:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/pulls/2768

?

yeah, but it is too late to replace the release. for a workaround, replace xul.dll from previous release should be fine.

[Mathwiz]

3 hours ago, Ben Markson said:

Anubis is another clunky piece of software developed by people who believe that only selected browsers are allowed to use the internet. It seems to be predicated on the idea that any non-conformant browser must be evil.

Anubis (from Egyptian mythology) was also the name of a villainous character on the Stargate SG-1 television series.

2 hours ago, Leokids123 said:

Anubis,the clunky piece of software developed by non-conformant browser-hating people protects those kind of websites to avoid AI crawling.

AI crawling sounds bad but I'm not sure why, what it is, how it differs from ordinary Web crawling, or why robots.txt cannot be relied on.

[roytam1]

11 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

Anubis (from Egyptian mythology) was also the name of a villainous character on the Stargate SG-1 television series.

AI crawling sounds bad but I'm not sure why, what it is, how it differs from ordinary Web crawling, or why robots.txt cannot be relied on.

because AI crawlers don't respect robots.txt.

Edited 50 minutes ago by roytam1

[VistaLover]

10 minutes ago, roytam1 said:

because AI crawlers don't respect robots.txt.

... This only means further/wider proliferation of such MITM anti-crawler "services", with the web becoming even more "unpleasant" as time moves on (with a greater impact, of course, on older browser engines, on old/weak H/W); what's the point of having 500 (or more) Mbps fiber internet speeds when every tab you open in your browser will need additional time to pass complex JS tests?

FTR, I keep, for historical purposes, a "portable copy" of NM27 (not the last one published, though), which isn't able to pass the Anubis test (e.g., on RPO Gitea repos); and even Serpent 52 struggles passing that test, especially if I don't disable "security/privacy"-oriented solutions (extensions and/or userscripts); privacy also falls victim here, because you're given no other choice on such web-policing "services": either "open" your "privacy fences" or be denied access to the site you're after  ...

This is all depression-inducing  ...