StartAllBack for Windows 11

[Tihiy]

StartAllBack 3.8.11

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- New Win+Alt+T hotkey to toggle taskbar autohide

- Smoother thumbnails/jumplists/tray flyout animations

- Stripped '- File Explorer' suffix from 7/10 Explorer windows

- Fixed thumbnails ceasing to work after some time

- Fixed no icons after display switch sometimes

- Fixed secondary displays not changing dark/light sometimes

- Fixed artifacts when resizing taskbar sometimes

- Fixed ShellHost.exe crash after display switch

- Fixed crash after disconnecting display with Control Center open

- Minor Dark Magic fixes

 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Tihiy

[msrat]

Extremely annoying questions, I apologize in advance! Thank you for your amazing work.

1. Any chance the ability to move taskbars between screens returns? I must imagine that had to be one of the hardest features to upkeep, so I'm not expecting, although... Maybe it would be possible to "fake" this behavior by choosing the monitor to display fly outs?

2. Any chance some basic developments from StartAllBack could be backported to StartIsBack? In case W11 is ruined by MS, I love to have 21H2 LTSC as a safety net. Though what I don't like about Windows 10 is getting flash banged by a completely white explorer for a split second when you open it.. It'd be amazing if good old SiB could address that, or give us the black control panel.

Thanks again..

 

[SkyySX]

3 hours ago, Tihiy said:

StartAllBack 3.8.11 to test

https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe

 

Even though you haven't explicitly listed my issue, it's fixed and renders correctly now, thank you very much!

[Vavun]

8 hours ago, ender` said:

Right-click the taskbar, use the Toolbars menu?

My bad. Toolbars menu and toolbars disappeared after update and I thought it was because of SAB

I didn't  realize that in order for the panel menu to appear back, I need to unpin the taskbar first

Sorry

[lubierzca]

14 hours ago, Vavun said:

Hello

I have a question to the developer: are there any plans to add custom toolbars like there were in previous windows versions?

I really miss this feature after upgrading to 24h2

Example image from the internet

Something styled to look like the Explorer drop-down menu with its pinned folders, but with a custom location would look great.

Thanks for your reply

Use Stahky instead.

[Tihiy]

8 hours ago, msrat said:

1. Any chance the ability to move taskbars between screens returns? I must imagine that had to be one of the hardest features to upkeep, so I'm not expecting, although... Maybe it would be possible to "fake" this behavior by choosing the monitor to display fly outs?

It's there. You need to disable multi-monitor taskbar though. Which flyouts are not multimon aware?

18 hours ago, Vavun said:

I have a question to the developer: are there any plans to add custom toolbars like there were in previous windows versions?

It's there. You need to unlock taskbar though. 

Those challenges are intentional since 3.8.

8 hours ago, msrat said:

2. Any chance some basic developments from StartAllBack could be backported to StartIsBack? In case W11 is ruined by MS, I love to have 21H2 LTSC as a safety net. Though what I don't like about Windows 10 is getting flash banged by a completely white explorer for a split second when you open it.. It'd be amazing if good old SiB could address that, or give us the black control panel.

Fat chance.

 

[konnor]

hello, can you guys help me with something?(sorry if it is a dumb question)
i'm using SAB at windows 11 23h2 and i'm having an issue, i use the auto-hide feature, and sometimes it simply don't work, sometimes i drag the mouse to show the taskbar and it simply doesn't appear, i have to minimize the window and then the auto-hide starts working again. does anyone else have this problem?

[Tihiy]

It will not work if you're in fullscreen. If you're not in fullscreen and it's not reproducible with standard taskbar, state what app it is.

[konnor]

19 minutes ago, Tihiy said:

It will not work if you're in fullscreen. If you're not in fullscreen and it's not reproducible with standard taskbar, state what app it is.

i'm not in fullscreen, the auto-hide stop working with any window like google chrome, steam, discord etc. I tried without the SAB and the auto-hide works normaly. i can record a video if you wanna see the problem.

[_ANK_]

Hi @Tihiy! 

Icon badges are missing when icon margins are set to XS with the small taskbar. They only appear when set to S or larger. I'm on version 3.8.10.

[Tihiy]

56 minutes ago, konnor said:

i'm not in fullscreen, the auto-hide stop working with any window like google chrome, steam, discord etc

Please try to find when this is triggered.

[konnor]

48 minutes ago, Tihiy said:

Please try to find when this is triggered.

when i click to open google chrome for example, and the chrome window fill the screen, the auto-hide stop working and to get it back to work, i have to minimize and maximize againg, it happens with any app, it's exactly when the window fill the screen.

resuming: if i click to open an app and it fill all the screen, the auto-hide stop working.

[Tihiy]

12 minutes ago, konnor said:

resuming: if i click to open an app and it fill all the screen, the auto-hide stop working.

Well, that's not enough. Chrome works for me well. Auto-hide doesn't work in fullscreen and works on maximized as expected.

Edited October 9, 2024 by Tihiy

[konnor]

26 minutes ago, Tihiy said:

Well, that's not enough. Chrome works for me well. Auto-hide doesn't work in fullscreen and works on maximized as expected.

Here is a video of the problem

 

[PGomersall]

@Tihiy I have been using SAB since its advent. I have it on a Windows 11 system that has just upgraded to 26120.1930. I have your very latest beta version installed, however, the release version also exhibits this issue. If I disable SAB this issue does not occur.

What I am seeing and how to induce it:

1) Shift-Right-Click a mmc shortcut that will raise a UAC prompt like a custom MMC with Active Directory Users and Computers and GPMC loaded.

2) Choose Run as different user, I choose a domain admin smart card logon and enter my pin

3) At that point I never see the UAC prompt and my system freezes completely. I have to power force it off or send a shutdown\reboot command from a remote computer.

It only seems to occur when an app invokes a UAC prompt when Run as a different user, I can run an unrestricted app as the same smartcard user fine.

As noted if I disable SAB this doesn't occur. I will continue to try and confirm my findings and test same on a similar setup.

Edited October 9, 2024 by PGomersall