My Browser Builds (Part 2)

[siria]

Thanks for splitting off the REBRANDING discussions
https://msfn.org/board/topic/180861-on-branding-roytam1s-browsers/

[Mathwiz]

4 hours ago, Vistaboy said:

I think FF45 generally mess up with automatic extensions update:

FF 45 probably looks at addons.mozilla.org, and uBO Updater is probably not hosted there any more. At least, a search doesn't bring it up, which would make sense because it's probably a pre-WebEx app (otherwise it wouldn't run on NM, PM, or official Basilisk, which are its primary targets) and therefore banned from AMO.

I got lucky: my Serpent 55 (which also uses AMO) updated to the new uBO version on Dec. 16, when uBO Updater 1.6.7 was still working.

[VistaLover]

11 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

FF 45 probably looks at addons.mozilla.org, and uBO Updater is probably not hosted there any more.

The uB0-legacy updater extension was never hosted on AMO, to begin with...
It's currently hosted on APO, though,

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/ublock0-updater/

Notice the advice on that page:

Quote

A version compatible with other browsers can be installed from there.

So, for FirefoxESR 45.x.x, you should've have installed directly from the GitHub repository, not APO (although the OP did not specify the origin of its installation...):

https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/releases

The GitHub hosted XPIs check for updated versions of the extension via GitHub APIs, as can been seen in its install.rdf file, L12:

<em:updateURL>https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/master/update.xml</em:updateURL>

So, when FxESR 45 checks for extension updates, it is instructed by the extension to use for its update check:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/master/update.xml

and not check through AMO, since the specified <em:updateURL> value overrides the one inside Firefox (which, as posted, points to AMO by default ...) .

Cheers

Edited December 22, 2019 by VistaLover

[msfntor]

In the latest Arctic Fox v27.9.19 I've downloaded:

lightweight theme from WaybackMachine/firefox themes: https://web.archive.org/web/20170909165308/https://addons.mozilla.org/EN-US/firefox/themes/firefox

adblockingfiltersetp from WaybackMachine/legacycollector

Toggle JavaScript from palemoon.org extensions (Privacy and Security) link: https://addons-dev.palemoon.org/extensions/privacy-and-security/

uBlock O. v1.9.8 from WaybackMachine/legacycollector (cause github.com doesn't have download buttons...but from WaybackMachine/legacycollector another extensions (many...) "could not be installed because it is a Jetpack/SDK extension which are not supported in Arctic Fox 27.9.19")

uMatrix v3.1.0 by Alessio Vanni - from palemoon.org extensions

Page Load Time (with all four extensions) of deviceinfo.me page: 0.9 seconds best time (look down): https://www.deviceinfo.me/

Tek Eye on the test 1: HTML5 MPEG Video Test says: "No video with supported format and MIME type found."

All other Tek Eye tests are OK: https://tekeye.uk/html/html5-video-test-page

Video codec test demo.nimius.net page: first video test H.264 / AAC doesn't work ("Video format or MIME type is not supported"): http://demo.nimius.net/video_test/

So YouTube videos doesn't work: "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available"....

No videos on Twitter....

In about:config - network.http.sendRefererHeader is set to 2 (default), media.ffmpeg.enabled is set to true (default).

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MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all!

 

Edited December 30, 2019 by msfntor

[Mathwiz]

@msfntor

I would expect Arctic Fox to require the same LAV video .dll's as NM 27 for video playback to work. (IIRC there's a FAQ in post 1 of this thread with the links to these .dll's.) But I haven't confirmed if they work with Arctic Fox myself.

11 hours ago, VistaLover said:

So, for FirefoxESR 45.x.x, you should've have installed directly from the GitHub repository, not APO

It wasn't clear whether that was addressed to the OP or to me. So just to clarify, I don't have uBO or uBO Updater installed in FF 45 at all. I only use FF 45 for testing, so I've kept the installation as "clean" as I can. I do have both extensions installed in Serpent 55, probably from GitHub (I know I got uBO itself from there), and both auto-updated fine. But it's certainly possible the OP installed uBO Updater from APO (I of course don't know). If the version on APO differs from the one on GitHub (I'm too lazy to download them and check), that could indeed explain its failure to auto-update on his system.

That aside, what I think you're saying is that uBO Updater redirects update requests to GitHub not only for uBO, but also for itself. Which makes sense now that you mention it.

Interestingly, uBO Updater not only auto-updated my uBO installation on Dec. 16, but also auto-updated itself on Dec. 18, presumably after GitHub made the changes that required the fix to uBO Updater in the first place. So now that I know the backstory, I'm rather surprised it auto-updated for me or anyone. (But I'm not complaining!)

[NotHereToPlayGames]

39 minutes ago, Mathwiz said:

@msfntor

I would expect Arctic Fox to require the same LAV video .dll's as NM 27 for video playback to work.

I didn't have to add any .dll's.

I just played over a dozen YouTube videos and they all worked for me.

 

That said, I don't quite grasp the concept of HTML5 being the end-all litmus test on whether a browser is good or not.

I use my "daily" browser for 30-50 tasks throughout the year.

Some tasks each and every day, other tasks monthly, others maybe only once an entire year.

And viewing "videos" doesn't even break into the top 50 !!!

 

However, I do have a "YouTube Box".

A laptop with a Core 2 Duo that's over 12 years old.

It's used for nothing but playing YouTube videos and sending to the big screen TV.

I have the latest Arctic Fox Win32 on that laptop and it just played every YouTube video I went to.

But the CPU jumped up to 35 to 40%.

 

Granted, I prefer to use Portable Chromium version 49.0.2623.23 for YouTube playback (I mispoke in an earlier post when I cited v48).

My Chromium uses slightly less CPU but the addons I run on YouTube weren't offered in Firefox variants (at least at the time I set it up).

 

But all in all, playing videos is very VERY far down on my list of expectations for my browser.

What good is a browser where the GUI takes three seconds to load but it is 100% HTML5 compared to a browser where the GUI takes one second to load but drops to 90% HTML5 ???

 

I'll take that one-second GUI load time every day of the week  :)

[msfntor]

10 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

@msfntor

I would expect Arctic Fox to require the same LAV video .dll's as NM 27 for video playback to work. (IIRC there's a FAQ in post 1 of this thread with the links to these .dll's.) But I haven't confirmed if they work with Arctic Fox myself.

Have an ancient version of NEW MOON 27.6.0a1-2017-10-06 - all is good, YouTube play, Twitter videos play...look at this Twitter video test: https://twitter.com/ChristoPrice/status/1160137655524270080

- and I've NOT downloaded expressly LAV video .dll's, this New Moon 27.6 version works good for video playback, natively (but I've set general.useragent.override.twitter.com to FF 52.9).

In latest Firefox 45 RoyTam1's browser YouTube play good, but Twitter test above doesn't play for now (I've set general.useragent.override.twitter.com to FF52.9)....

It's good to have browsers with the native video codecs support.

Edited December 23, 2019 by msfntor

[VistaLover]

10 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

It wasn't clear whether that was addressed to the OP or to me.

... Sorry for that ; though I did quote only you in my previous post, that bit about FxESR 45 & uB0-updater was still targeting the OP, @Vistaboy

10 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

Interestingly, uBO Updater not only auto-updated my uBO installation on Dec. 16, but also auto-updated itself on Dec. 18, presumably after GitHub made the changes that required the fix to uBO Updater in the first place. So now that I know the backstory, I'm rather surprised it auto-updated for me or anyone.

"uB0-legacy updater" (for "other" browsers, i.e. ) installed directly from GitHub ALWAYS instructs the browser it is installed on to look up on its GitHub repo for its own updates; that is why the special XML tag <em:updateURL> exists in its install.rdf file; that functionality was never broken by GitHub!

"uB0-legacy" doesn't come with such a "special" <em:updateURL> XML tag; so, the browser it is installed on checks for its updates in the respective browser extensions store; for Fx 45-56 (and St55), that would be AMO; when uB0-legacy updater is co-installed, it first intercepts and nullifies those default update checks (for uB0) in the browser extensions store and then it itself searches (via page-scraping) the uB0 GitHub repo (which contains both XUL & WE versions), identifies the latest XUL version there and presents the browser with that version as the appropriate uB0-legacy version to update to; it was specifically that stage ("identifies the latest XUL version there") that got broken by GitHub on Tue Dec 17th ; I hope it's crystal clear for everyone now! 

Edited December 23, 2019 by VistaLover

[roytam1]

10 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

I didn't have to add any .dll's.

I just played over a dozen YouTube videos and they all worked for me.

 

46 minutes ago, msfntor said:

Have an ancient version of NEW MOON 27.6.0a1-2017-10-06 - all is good, YouTube play, Twitter videos play...look at this Twitter video test: https://twitter.com/ChristoPrice/status/1160137655524270080

- and I've NOT downloaded expressly LAV video .dll's, this New Moon 27.6 version works good for video playback, natively (but I've set general.useragent.override.twitter.com to FF 52.9).

if your system has LAV filter installed (manually, or  via K-Lite Codec Pack, etc.), my Tycho/Fx45 builds will use it automatically.

[VistaLover]

56 minutes ago, msfntor said:

In latest Firefox 45 RoyTam1's browser YouTube play good, but Twitter test above doesn't play for now (I've set general.useragent.override.twitter.com to FF52.9)....

As instructed, you need to download and place within the main app directory the LAV filter DLLs

EDIT: Youtube may (and do) use non-patented decoders (VP9/VP8, opus/vorbis etc) in the WebM container, when support for patented decoders (h264, aac) is absent in the browser; however, Twitter will only use h264+aac in an MP4 container...

Edited December 23, 2019 by VistaLover

[VistaLover]

5 minutes ago, roytam1 said:

if your system has LAV filter installed (manually, or  via K-Lite Codec Pack, etc.), my Tycho/Fx45 builds will use it automatically.

@msfntor 's reports are contradicting each other ; if he had installed LAV Filters system-wide, why would NM 27.6.0a1/Tycho use them (for Twitter) but not your Nightly ESR 45.9.x?

Edited December 23, 2019 by VistaLover

[msfntor]

10 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

However, I do have a "YouTube Box".

A laptop with a Core 2 Duo that's over 12 years old.

So you have "YourTube Box" downloader from Microsoft Store? System Requirements minimum Windows 8.1? - and without it, videos on YouTube doesn't play? You've downloaded it from which link?..

And Twitter videos play?...

I've too Core 2 Duo - and in Program Files folder: Sonic Encoders folder. Maybe this is not enough, what do you think about, please

[VistaLover]

7 minutes ago, msfntor said:

10 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

However, I do have a "YouTube Box".

A laptop with a Core 2 Duo that's over 12 years old.

So you have "YourTube Box" downloader from Microsoft Store?

I think you simply misunderstood ; a "YouTube Box" is just a laptop whose main/only purpose is to play back Youtube videos (displayed in a TV monitor) - at least that's how I read it here

[roytam1]

16 minutes ago, VistaLover said:

@msfntor 's reports are contradicting each other ; if he had installed LAV Filters system-wide, why would NM 27.6.0a1/Tycho use them (for Twitter) but not your Nightly ESR 45.9.x?

I don't know which Fx45 version he's using, and what version of LAV filter installed.

[VistaLover]

7 minutes ago, roytam1 said:

I don't know which Fx45 version he's using

He wrote:

1 hour ago, msfntor said:

In latest Firefox 45 RoyTam1's browser YouTube play good, but Twitter test above doesn't play for now

... so by "latest" it could only be

firefox-45.9.18-20191207-082eb5b14-win32-sse

Edited December 23, 2019 by VistaLover