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Thanks for your reply. Do you/or anyone know what changed between Chromium 114 and 115 that the browser does not work anymore on Windows 8.1? Starting with 115 it instantly crashes, whereas 114 would work perfectly fine without any glitches. I changed DiscardVirtualMemory to VirtualAlloc but still. No luck.
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Could the original Chromium Browser also made compatible with 7/8.1 again by applying the same changes the Supermium Team did? Like those changes in Chromium.dll for example
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So, new news: - Microsoft 365 (formerly Office 365) v2308 works on Windows 8.1. Support had ended with v2301, roughly half a year ago (link below) - Firefox 117 (latest Alpha) works flawlessly on Windows 8.1 (7 as well) - Chrome 114 works, but 115 crashes for me (there are forks like Supermium or CatsXP that are based on 115 but I haven't tested them, so I cannot recommend them) I am kind of surprised that Microsoft didn't implement functions that would break compatibility with Windows 8.1 yet. They probably don't care. Windows 7's compatibility was broken after v2002 as far as I remember. imgur.com/a/FvieLQC
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I also liked the aesthetic of Firefox in v57-88 very much. Sadly, 78 ESR isn't supported anymore, so I always try to keep up with latest version. Right now all versions, including the betas and nightlies work fine on 7/8.1
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No, I haven't tried that out yet. I also wanted to point out that the latest Nightly Installer no longer works on Windows 7/8.1. You get the same message like when you tried installing newer Firefox versions on XP/Vista. If you copy the latest Nightly from a Windows 10+ machine, it will still work. There are no implemented software restrictions (yet)
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New News regarding Firefox: - If you are on Win7/8.1 you can't download the Beta/Nightly installer anymore. If you visit the installers website there will be a notice, something similar to "Firefox is only supported on Win versions above 8.1". If you still press at download v115 Stable Offline installer will be downloaded instead - The Beta/Nightly installers aren't blocked, they still download the latest version (117a1) - 115 Beta release notes weren't mentioning the EOL of 7/8.1 - the stable version now does
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Very nice. As far as I remember XP didn‘t run the next two versions of Firefox after it‘s EOL (53/54). I‘m glad that Windows 7 and 8.1 still do. Let‘s just see for how long..
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So, Firefox 115 was just released and 117 Nightly is going to be released too very soon. - Windows 7/8.1 users are NOT merged to the ESR Branch with the update from 114.0.2 - my testing machine was pushed to the regular 115.0 release - The latest 116 Nightly (04-07-2023) still works (you need to download new builds manually by downloading the Nightly installer, since the in-build Updater doesn't work anymore)
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Yesterday they changed the system requirements of 116 Nightly to Windows 10+ Before that, all 116 builds had the minimum requirement of Windows 7. However, I could still install the latest nightly (on 8.1) without any issues. The installer isn't blocked either (yet)
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Thank god. The message wasn‘t intrusive on XP/Vista as well. However, once 52.9 ESR was reached a pop-up would come up, informing you about EOL. That will probably happen with the release of the last 115 ESR as well
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I remember a similar method, but haven‘t had the time to experiment yet. I‘ll keep you updated once I find a way
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Starting with the latest Firefox Nightly (v116, Build Date 22.06), the warning you all know and love from Windows XP/Vista is now shown on the updater ("You cannot perform further updates on this system") in Windows 7 and 8.1. The message links to the EOL Page. The browser still works, they haven't broken the compatibility tho. You will have to download newer Nightly builds manually now, since the updater will be stuck at an earlier 116 build.
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yoltboy01 replied to Jaguarek62's topic in Windows 8
Has anyone found a way in how to make Chrome/Chromium 115 work on Windows 8.1? Chrome 110, 111, 112, 113 and 114 work without any issue, but starting with 115 it crashes during the launch of the program. No error message shown. -
I was running the latest v116 Nightly Build when a message popped up in Firefox saying something like "Still using Windows 7? How to Backup your Data. Those older OS are not receiving any security updates from Microsoft anymore" (not 1:1 like that, since the message was in German). I am curious why it popped up in Version 116, if 115 is considered to be the last one. By the way, this message also pops up in 8.1 with that same Windows 7 message thing. Time will tell what Mozilla might introduce to break compatibility with 7/8.1 or if they just shift them to ESR and won't change anything major in standard releases after 115
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Despite saying they would end support for Windows 7 and 8.1 with v115, the newly released nightly version of 116 still works on Windows 8.1. I also tested it with Windows 7 Compatibility Mode and it seems fine so far. The system requirements haven't changed either. However, since this is a very new and fresh build, it will obviously take some time to introduce new stuff that will eventually break support for them. As far as I remember Firefox 53 builds didn't work on XP, but work perfectly on Vista. Vista's compatbility was broken with v54. I'm curious when and if Mozilla will break the compatibility for 7 and 8.1 or if they just "declare" them EOL but won't change much from the inside. Time's gonna tell us. Nevertheless, here is proof: imgur.com/a/wUABk3Q [Edit: I don't know why they've put an 18+ warning but dont worry ;)]
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Nah it still works on 8.1 Just tried out 3.6 Just copy it from a Windows 10 install to 8.1 and launch utorrent.exe. It might install WebView2
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The latest Microsoft Office 365 (v2307) also works on 8.1 I'm surprised there haven't been compatibility issues since EOL was with 2301/2302 For Windows 7, compatibility was broken with v2003 already
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Hopefully, it won‘t get too hard to backport newer versions to 7/8.1
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yoltboy01 replied to Jaguarek62's topic in Windows 8
It got really quiet here lately. So, I decided to test some new software out: - Office 365 (Microsoft 365) v2306 works on Windows 8.1 after installing a patch provided from MDL -> the main problem was that Microsoft deactivated the ability to join the beta program after v2301 (8.1‘s official EOL). This could be bypassed if you had an older Office ISO laying around and installed it -> joined beta -> updated to the latest Office available. However, Microsoft also deactivated that option. Nonetheless, newer versions 2302-current, from what I know, work fluently. - Google Chrome 113 (current stable) Works. You need to modify some things in Chrome.dll first. Doesn‘t work on Win7. - Google Chrome 114 (current beta) Same as above. - Chromium 115 I faced some issues with Chromium 115, it works good for a few minutes but websites, including settings, crash and need to be reloaded - Chromium 116 Doesn‘t start. There is no error message or so on - it just crashes after being launched. Even with sandbox disabled. Hope everyone has a nice weekend incoming -
I know it‘s a little bit Off-Topic but there is something strange I recently noticed regarding Office updates. Microsoft tends to update their Office Suites 6 months beyond their official End-of-Life cycle. Office 2007: Ended in October 2017 but was updated till April 2018 Office 2010: Ender in October 2020 but was updated till April 2021 Office 2013: Officially ended last month but I recently installed the May security update (15.0.5553.1000) through WU. So, I can expect it to receive updates till October?
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Did anyone tried out porting back Spotify 1.2.10 to Windows 7 (or 8.1) ? They introduced a new Design after ending Support for them
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Microsoft will no longer offer major Windows 10 updates
yoltboy01 replied to DanR20's topic in Windows 10
I don‘t agree with this. I am very glad that Windows 10 didn‘t stay in that 2015 aesthetic till now and that they kept it‘s developed active. If you compare 1507 to 2004, you will notice how much things evolved and got better. I‘m also a big fan of the newer Start Menu and the Fluent Design System -
Nah not true. Latest Chromium Build working fine on 8.1: imgur.com/a/lE6buzI As much as I respect @D.Draker for all of your work and effort, I never really got your intention, of why you want to see Windows 7 and 8.1 getting removed from the Main OS Section from MSFN. No one really complains about this. Why even "downgrade" them to that section. They cannot be compared to Vista, especially Windows 7, since they are more popular and many programs still support them. I got that you dont like Windows 7 and 8, but it is really not up to you to decide which OS is "worth" staying in a section or not. Regards
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The newly released version of Rufus (USB flash tool) doesn‘t support Windows 7 anymore. Starting with v4.0 it requires Windows 8+ Furthermore, older versions and this one do not provide Windows 7 Downloads anymore