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Strangely, the nag message on Chrome Dev/Chromium 109 disappeared on Windows 8.1. Three days ago it started showing the same EOL message of XP/Vista for Windows 7/8.1 but today it was gone. I even reinstalled both browsers on Test machines and it showed nothing. The about:chrome Tab also says Up to Date and no warning message at all. Curious if this is a bug or intentionally

Hmm.. no surprise but moving Windows 7/8.1 to 102 ESR now is not a good idea in my opinion. They already run a newer version now and that would kinda be a downgrade now. Mozilla should definitly extend support till 114 ESR, so that Firefox remains supported till August-October 2024. It's highly unusual that they drop support on a regular release. It's either gonna be 102 ESR (which I highly doubt) or 114 ESR. So sad that they don't let any door open for Windows 7 and 8.1 users. Mozilla already has a low market share and they will loose about 15% more, if they discontinue support for 7/8.1. They should re-consider and wait till there are less than 5% left. They always want to keep up with Google, but this time I don't think they should. So 2023 is going to be a tough year for Windows versions lower than 10. Here is a quick summary: Google Chrome: EOL February 2023 Opera: EOL February 2023 Edge: EOL February 2023 Vivaldi: EOL February 2023 Brave: EOL February 2023 Firefox: EOL August 2023/August 2024

I‘m very curious what they will do to break compatibility with Windows 7 and 8.1. As I previously said in another post, I think that Mozilla will be more graceful when it comes to ending them. They ended support for XP/Vista 10 months after Google did and then pushed out security updates for another year. If v115 will be the next ESR in July, we will continue to receive Security Updates for at least another year. ESR is usually also supported for more than just 12 months (v78 had 16 months). Applying the same stats to Windows 7 would mean that Firefox should at least be supported till July - October 2024, which is still 2 years ahead. They could also support them for a longer period of time, because Mozilla already has a low usage rate compared to Chrome, so they may be not interested in loosing more users. However, that‘s just a dream scenario, they already limited some things to Windows 10 and 11 only like Firefox VPN

Google finally announced the End Of Life date for Windows 7 as well as Windows 8.1, which will be in February 2023, with the release of v110 of their Chrome browser Source: https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/185534985/sunsetting-support-for-windows-7-8-1-in-early-2023?hl=en This will automatically also affect Google Chrome for Windows Vista Extended Kernel (although that might not be the biggest drama after all, since we Vista users can already be grateful that we got 61 versions higher than Chrome‘s initial EOL on Vista), Microsoft Edge for Windows 7/8.1, as well as many other Chrome forks like Opera. I hope Google only changes minor things, so that we can still run the browser, with a little tweaks here and there. If I think back to 2016, there were no ports for higher Chrome versions for Windows Vista, since we needed a kernel extension before we could run the necessary functions. What do you think? I wish Google would also offer an ESR channel, where W7/8.1 would continue to receive only security based updates for the next 12 months to come. I‘m using Firefox and I already know that Mozilla will probably merge W7/8.1 to the next ESR channel (v110-112?) too

After I installed Canary on my older 8.1 Laptop, it was reporting Windows 8.1 for Chrome 107. Haven't seen that Windows 10 text (yet)

I already prophesied this scenario a few months ago. Google already extended Chrome Support for Windows 7 for more than a year and since Windows 8.1 won't receive any ESU-offers, they have no need to extend support anymore. I really hope that we will be able to backport newer versions of Chrome to W7/8.1 without the need of an Extended Kernel (like Vista). I think Firefox will continue to support Windows 7 and 8.1 till at least 2024, since they will surely be moved to the ESR-chanel first, which is usually supported for more than a year. We already got a new ESR a few weeks ago, so the next one will probably be released in June/July 2023. If that specific version will be the last for 7/8 users, they will continue to receive security updates till October 2024. - MY guess only-

That's the last one official supported on Windows Vista

Is there any way in how to update OneDrive on Windows 8.1? The Explorer always shows the old OneDrive Icon, unlike Windows 7, who can use the latest one. I always get errors that I should use the Build-In App, if I wanna use a personal account

Windows 7 does not support these API‘s. The UWP Platform depends on many factors. So, although it‘s soo cool that he ported the Store back to Windows 7, unfortunately he won‘t be able to install anything with it. Windows 7 doesn‘t even have Microsoft Accounts build in, so you won‘t be able to log-in the Store for certain apps. You may be able to download programs like Firefox or Audacity, since they‘re .exe files. I‘m curious if the dev could port that back to Windows 8.1 as well, as I think 8.1 is way more capable of running a newer Store and also needs a newer Store, since the old one literally has nothing left

Which Spotify version is this? A newer one than 1.0.26?

I do have some experience with ESU on Windows 7, however the only difference between 7 and 8 is that Windows 8.1 is not eligable of Extended Security Updates itself. Other products of that NT-line are eligable (Server 2012/R2) of it. So, skip Windows 7 and look at back at Windows Vista - that's the situation we are dealing here with. Windows Vista also did not receive ESU, but Server 2008 SP2 did. I could install some of those for testing purposes on a Vista machine, however that was not easy. I needed an older version of an ESU-bypass tool, which was not easy to find anymore. After installing all of the needed patches, I could sideload Server 2008 SP2 ESU to Vista. Bbefore that I only got Error Codes. So, basically it is possible to do so with Windows 8.1/Server 2012 R2 too, but I have to underline that I'm not recommending doing stuff, which one hasnt paid for. You can try on your own risk :)

There are ESU-bypass tools but they‘re obviously not legal, since people pay for these updates. It‘s your own choice

No, not exactly. Windows Thin PC (based on 7) will still receive ESU till October 2024, which means that there will still be some updates released and more than a year and a half updates after Windows 7 ESU ends. Windows Server 2008 R1 (based on Vista) is eligible for one additional year of ESU (till 2024), if it‘s used in Cloud (I think they call it Azure or something like that..) I won‘t give any links away but it‘s your choice if you wanna install an ESU-bypass tool or not but that‘s just a quick information regarding the support lifecycle

Another program that dropped support for Windows 7 as well as Windows 8.1 is the digital note taking app "Anki". If you use this app on your Windows 7/8 machine, version 2.1.49 was the last supported one. Starting with 2.1.50, only Windows 10/11 are supported. However, I tried unzipping any installing the latest one (2.1.54) on Windows 8.1, which strangly worked. You have to download the Qt5 installer, since the QT6 one will give you a missing plug-in error.

With the upcoming End-Of-Life of Windows 8.1, Microsoft decided to annoy us with their ads regarding a Windows Upgrade to Windows 10/11. Furthermore, Microsoft announced that Windows 8.1 will not receive Extended Security Updates (ESU) like Windows 7 did. However, it's Server counterpart Server 2012/2012 R2 will receive ESU till October 2026. I'm curious if these updates could be installed on 8.1 as well, as I remember that it was possible to do so with Windows Vista and Server 2008 R1. Source: theverge.com/2022/6/24/23181347/microsoft-windows-8-1-end-of-support-notifications-pop-ups

The In-Build OneDrive App in Windows 8.1 does no longer sync files. Is there any method in how to update OneDrive (personal) in Windows 8.1? When I try to install OneDrive Desktop, only the Business version gets installed

Recently, I had a little argue with Samsung about why they're only mentioning Windows 7 and Windows 10 as supported OS'es for Samsung DeX and why Windows 8 is not named. They told me that Windows 8 is irrelevant, since it's support had already ended in 2018. I told them that Windows 8's support is ending in 2023 and that they should not be supporting Windows 7 since 2015, if they only look out for Mainstream Support. THEY DELETED MY COMMENT?!

Sure, IE is even deactivated in Control Panel. It must be integrated deep inside the system files, otherwise any browser could have easily replaced it

Hey guys, I recently tried to log in Office 2022/365 with my university account, but the Activation site is rendered with IE11/Trident. The page tells me that my browser isn‘t supported, so I can‘t activate Office. Trying the same thing on Windows 10/11 resulted in the website getting rendered by Chromium Edge, so I could log-in. I installed Microsoft Edge WebView 2 on Windows 7 but that didn‘t change anything. I know that Edge won‘t replace IE11 internally on W7/8.1 machines, but is there any way in how to achieve that? Replacing IE11 with Edge would also allow some Windows 8.1 Apps to work again like Deezer, which doesn‘t work anymore as it shows that IE11 isn‘t supported anymore.

To be honest, I dont think that Mozilla will stop supporting Firefox on Windows 7, since their current situation depends on user numbers. Firefox has a world-wide market share below 5% and Google has a contract with Mozilla that expires in 2023. I dont think Google will be interested in expanding their partnership, if Mozilla loses more users than they already did. Cutting of Windows 7 will make a majority of people stop using Firefox, so making Firefox lose even more market share. They're trying everything they can do now to make more people use their browser. As I reported earlier, they even built Firefox on Windows 7 machines (look at 98.0 release notes - it's a W7 context menu). It was also just announced that Firefox 100 will require the SHA2 Update on Windows 7 devices, which again underlines that they still care a lot about Windows 7 users. I think Firefox will move Windows 7 to ESR in late 2023/2024

Right now, there is probably no need for an Extended Kernel for Windows 8. Windows 8 was treated differently than Windows Vista. Software Support for Vista was mostly depended on XP‘s Software Support, as companies often ended support for them simultaneously. Most of the current software still supports Windows 8. There are just a few applications like iTunes, Office 2019+ or OneDrive, who ended their support. However, there are workarounds in how to install the latest versions, with some modifications to the installers. I think Firefox for Windows 8 will be supported for at least 2024, as Mozilla hasn‘t said anything regarding EOL yet. Furthermore, if you pay attention to details, Mozilla itself still develops Firefox on Windows 7/8 machines, as Firefox 98 release notes show a screenshot from a W7 machine running Firefox, rather than a W10 machine. All common Antivirus programs are also still supported. So, is there any need for an Extended Kernel yet?

Not even Office 2013 works, so I guess you should try porting 2013 first instead of 2019

Sup guys, does anyone know, if it possible to somehow activate the Windows 8.1 Update 3 Start Menu (Mix of 7 and 8, released for Surface RT/2) on non-arm devices, like my Laptop? I like that one and I also know that MS added the exact same Start Menu in Windows 10's early TH1 beta builds, but they replaced it with the RTM one.

Sup guys! I was testing some older Beta Builds a few weeks ago and I came across a video which shows leftovers of the Windows 8.1 Start Screen in Windows 10 RTM (10240). It is said that Microsoft didn‘t remove all the code, but rather hide it, till they got rid of it in 1511. So my question is: Is it possible to somehow get/install Windows 8.1‘s Start Screen in recent versions of Windows 10? I love 8.1‘s design, but 10‘s App compatibility is far better, that‘s why I’d like to create a mixture of both of them Video (don‘t know if I‘m allowed to post links here but anyway):

Hey guys (and happy new year by the way), I wanted to know, if newer Office 365 versions (above 2002) can be installed/ported back from Windows 8/10/11 to Windows 7? If anybody knows an instruction, can you write one down? Thanks.