cluberti, thanks for responding first, after i just wasted time looking for that quote you have. and i did not mean to make you feel bad, it's just the way you phrased your questions. many people do this for what you wanted to and knowingly break the EULA in order to save money, which is way i said that it is in a way similar to piracy. you will find this info just about anywhere that talks about technet which is why i thought you had an idea about it. i am sorry if i offended you.