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ok, the registry hack I mentioned earlier only works under normal Win98 fe/se. It won't work under WinME and Win98se with the 98SE2ME pack installed. Without the 98se2me pack under W98se, the hack will work.

Another W98 hotfix that remains though I think is optional for Gape's Collection is the nscirda.sys Q323708 hotfix: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=323708 This is only needed if you are using a high speed infrared wireless device under Win98 fe/se and uses the original nscirda.sys driver in Win98. If the high speed infrared device doesn't use the nscirda.sys file, then the Q323708 hotfix is useless.

kool Tihiy. now all you need is a readme.txt file or a help file for your Task Manager to make it complete.

Gdi32.dll is essential as it loads at startup. without it Windows 98se will not load at all. The Verinst.exe file is a component of old IE updates (like the Q313829 shell32.dll update for Win98) and is not needed. so you can live without the verinst.exe file.

And I was also told my MDGx that the KB891711 updates for Win98 & WinME can lockup those systems at startup. I have read at another forum that it did lockup some people's machines. See this forum page: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12875676~mode=flat users who have installed the 891711 updates for 98/ME and DO experience problems should prevent the kb891711.exe file from loading at startup from the msconfig tool and that should make the problem go away. so the KB891711 security patches for W98/ME are flawed and should be revised. so what if MS is kinda slow in releasing new W98/ME updates. better to be 'slow AND steady' than to be 'fast AND wreckless'

w98se can run on a 64bit processor though it'll run it in 32-bit emulation mode. performance should not be a problem with all that RAM installed. hope that guy you talked about can recover and put his life back together.

yup, though in TweakUI it's called the 'Rebuild Icons' option from the Repair tab of TweakUI. I would delete the ShellIconCache file from the Windows folder (this file is a hidden file so you'll need to adjust the Windows Explorer Folder Option settings to display hidden and system files), then run TweakUI, click on Repair tab, select the Rebuild Icons option and click on the Repair Now button to fix the desktop icons.

I presume tha people in here already thought that jaclaz <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i guess it was a thought by someone who wanted "integrated" ntfs support for 98se/ME. The big M$ isn't going to make that a reality and they're leaving W98/ME in the dust.

great, soldier1st. a 64-bit cpu! awesome! now you can use the 64-bit edition of Windows XP. Win98 is totally a 32-bit OS and may or may not work on a 64-bit machine. yeah, those 512 Mb+ memory barriers will be broken with those tweaks. hopefully those higher capacity memory chips will be cheaper and more affordable so we can put more RAM onto our machines.

hey Tarun, I can't agree with everything you say in this forum, just most of the stuff you said. not all minds think alike but yeah converting to NTFS after setting up & running W2k/XP can lead to problems; and yup soldier1st NTFS was definitely meant for NT/2k/XP systems. But if you're using WinXP and want to take FULL advantages of the NTFS file system, use WinXP Pro edition since it allows file/folder encryption for NTFS while WinXP Home ed doesn't have file encryption for NTFS. Think of XP Home ed. as 'basic' edition and XP Professional ed. as 'full-fledged' edition.

hey, if you guys don't want to use the hibernate feature that's fine with me. I don't use that feature much on desktop machines but I use hibernate more on a laptop machine because I want it to be more energy efficient and I care about having energy efficient machines and dont want them to be "energy hogs" am I the only person in this thread that uses laptops? nice that Technoguy agrees with me though i wonder if he uses a desktop or laptop pc. guess my bro and I are fortunate to have a laptop and we can use it in a power outage since it can operate in either ac power or battery power.

well hopefully the 512+ Mb memory fix will be included in the final release of Gape's W98se SP 2.0. in the meantime you should use the tips to limit the amount of RAM the Windows 'vcache' feature uses to 512 megs or less at the web site MCT mentioned.

nope. sorry randiroo76073. some bluetooth devices made now aren't going to be compatible with Win98/ME and they're not going to bother to make it "backward compatible", especially bluetooth devices made by Microsoft. MS Bluetooth products require XP SP1 (Sp2 is optional) as noted in MS kb article 811807. however bluetooth devices made by companies other than Microsoft like the 3Com Wireless Bluetooth USB Adapter [3CREB96B] can be used under W98se, 2k, ME & XP as noted on the hardware's system requirements specs. so i recommend using non-microsoft bluetooth hardware.

simon109s, removing 20rc1 shouldn't be a problem and the chances of getting back W98se to its orginal state should be good. By the way, Bluetooth devices are NOT supported under 98se (they don't work). You'll need Windows XP with SP2 to use bluetooth devices.

oh well. i forgot which online article fred said that so i'll have to ask him personally on whether to use a fresh file system or a converted file system. but back to the subject of NTFS support in Win98se or WinME, the best thing to do is to use a third party app to access NTFS file system under 98/ME. in the long run it's best to use NTFS under Win2k or WinXP Pro edition since these versions have built-in file compression and file encryption. WinXP Home edition doesn't support file encryption for NTFS; the option to encrypt files in XP home ed. using NTFS is grayed out. so to fully use NTFS, upgrade to Win2000 or XP professional edition. XP Pro allows running IIS (internet information server) or PWS (personal web server), XP Home ed. does not.

...and there should be NO excuses whatsoever for SP20rc1.exe SP file to not work under Win98se. It should work. IT MUST WORK! and we're not getting a response from robandjeanne for several days. if robandjeanne is really using Win98se and he installed the 98se2me pack before installing SP20rc1.exe then it may not work. I'll have to ask MDGx if installing 98SE2ME pack first prevents installation of the 98se SP 2.0 RC1 pack. i have a hunch that it should not. wonder what is his take.

hibernation useless Tarun? maybe on a desktop PC but on a laptop/notbook PC, hibernation is a real gem. so you're still a little off there. if soldier1st & Tarun would have used the word "unreliable" to describe the hibernate feature, or if they accurately say that "hibernate is unreliable..." then I won't have a problem with that and I will be less harsh on my criticism.

koo-el <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah, this time M$ got it right in including the actual Q246615/Q246817 EXE patch so they did revise their hotfix package. as for the Q265528 vnetbios.vxd patch, let's wait for a few months from now, then we can try asking for that patch since I was told a week ago that it was not currently available.

that's your opinion Tarun. but your earlier comments about hibernate being a waste of time and a waste of space is an outrage and an insult to people like me and my bro who use the hibernate feature on a portable laptop computer. i find hibernation useful, especially on an acpi-based laptop with win2k/xp. perhaps Tarun too, like I told sodier1st should get a portable laptop with xp on it and check out what hibernate does on a laptop, then he'll have a different take on the hibernate feature. sure it may not be useful from some or when using hibernate on a desktop, but on a laptop it can sometimes be a power saver and a time saver when used judiciously. sure it may seem like bashing, but Tarun & soldier1st will have to take some heat/criticism from me for what they said about the hibernate feature. hibernate a waste of space? come on. that Doom 3 game from ID software takes up 2.2Gb of HD space and the hibernate file in W2k/XP uses the same amount of space as the physical amount of RAM installed. and you're telling people that hibernate is a waste of space? if that's the case, then get a bigger hard drive like one of those monstrous 80Gb or higher drives. space is barely a non-issue for me because I use large HDs on my machines. Technoguy, you won't see the hibernate option in win98se unless you run win98se on a portable laptop computer. if you are using a desktop or a server machine that runs win98, you don't need hibernate and standby is good enough to use. I like both the StandBy and Hibernate APM features. I want to make it crystal clear that Win98 fe/se has the hibernation option only on portable laptop computers and not desktop computers. if hibernate doesn't appear in win98se's Power Management control panel app AND you are using a laptop PC, then the laptop PC may not either support it or it may not be turned on by default. most but not all laptops with pre-installed Win98se have the hibernate option so check with the laptop manufacturer on how to turn on the hibernation feature.

Crash&Burn, there is a registry hack that I saw in an old summer 1998 PC Computing magazine that removes the Log Off command from the Start Menu. Open registry editor [regedit.exe] and navigate to the following registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer create a Binary Value called NoLogOff. Set NoLogOff to 01 00 00 00 and click on OK. close Regedit and restart the computer for the change to take effect.

that's right Tarun. I did read one of Fred Langa's old newsletters that it is better to choose the file system before partitioning & formatting a HD than to use a conversion tool to switch to another file system which can be less reliable. i forgot which article he said that but i'll try to look it up.

so to make sp2rc1 work under win98se copy the SP2 RC1 pack onto the hard drive that has Win98se installed (if W98SE is on C: drive run sp2rc1 on C drive only; if W98se is on a different drive or partition like D: drive, run sp2rc1 on D drive or the partition that has the W98se OS). good luck on the exams Gape. be sure to include Q246615/Q246817 W98se patch FixItMad got. don't include the 891711 Win98 update which was released yesterday at Windows update. it has KB891711.EXE & Q891711.DLL files and MDGx told me kb891711.exe (which was featured from the patch) hung his Win98se system. Those two files are stored in the 'Windows\System\kb891711' folder. I have to test the Win98 kb891711 patch on my old Win98se to be sure the patch doesn't cause lockups.

yep, u said it soldier1st. maybe robandjeanne didn't check very well on what version of Win98 he's using on his machines and only says he uses W98SE 4.10.2222A. the SP20rc1.exe file should work for sure if it is run on Win98 se and not Win98 fe. so I find a discrepancy in what robandjeanne said. 98fe has y2k bugs that were fixed in 98se. Even some apps like Adobe Acrobat Reader 6.0, RealPlayer 10.5 and Media Player 9 refuse to install under Win98FE and says to use Win98SE before installing these apps.

... and who really needs integrated NTFS support in W9xME systems anyway? in reality, it is next to impossible. it's all right to use 3rd party utils that can access NTFS partitions on 9x systems. that can be good enough for some users and i don't have a problem with that.

well sorry soldier1st but I'm showing passion and fire on what I said about hibernation in my first comment (and I'm defending it)! if you really want to see what hibernation does, save a lot of money and buy a laptop computer with xp on it. then from the Power Options control panel app, enable hibernation and test it out. someday, you'll need a laptop computer cuz you can take it anywhere and uses less power than a desktop computer! On my brothers custom-made desktop PC and on his laptop PC both using WinXP, hibernation normally shuts down windows. When I turn on the computers after hibernation it says "Resuming Windows" instead of the normal Windows XP startup splash screen and returns to the desktop a little faster than a normal shutdown and startup process. on my Hewlett-packard pavilion PC with pre-installed WinME, I choose the hibernation option from the shut down menu which shuts down the pc normally, but when I turn on my WinME computer it says "Returning to Windows" instead of the usual Windows ME startup splash screen and gets me to the desktop. The hibernation feature back in the Win95 & Win98 days only pertained to LAPTOP computers. there was no need for hibernation for DESKTOP computers. The hibernate APM option was there in order to save battery power but it was not enabled by default. a utility provided by the laptop/notebook maker had to be used to setup & enable the hibernation feature in order of it to work correctly. Like I said before, hibernation in Win98se only works under laptop computers that adhere to the ACPI power management standard. those using a desktop computer with Win98se should not worry about using hibernation as the standby APM feature is good enough for most users using a desktop PC. if you want to use hibernate on a desktop computer that supports ACPI, use Win2000, ME or XP which have built-in hibernation support in these versions of Windows. not even MDGx's 98SE2ME pack can add the hibernate APM feature because the APM drivers in WinME are ME specific, just like DOS 8 is WinME specific.