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that's correct Vistapocalypse. no EOL notifications for Win7 users yet on MSE 4.10.209, not even on my family's Win7 ultimate pc using the recent Oct. 2019 MSE definitions come back next month in November or December and ask that question then from your first post of this thread

There are two versions of KB4056564 Lambo. the original one released in early March 2018 and a revised "V2" version in early May 2018. Do you have "original" KB4056564 or the V2 version?

there is a newer servicing stack update (SSU) for Server 2008 - KB4517134. MS support article 4517134 says that this new update supersedes/replaces KB4493730.

either Firefox 52.x or 60.x ESR is good enough for me on Win7. oh btw, Mozilla plans to release new Firefox versions every 4 weeks starting next year in 2020: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/09/moving-firefox-to-a-faster-4-week-release-cycle/ that's even faster than MS releasing 2 feature updates a year for Win10

the previous Flash player updates like builds .223 & .238 were non-security fixes and Adobe did not give MS those updated flash ocx files on Tue Sept. 10, MS did finally release a new Flash Player update (KB4516115), v32.0.0.255, which is a security update. resolves the new security flaws with Flash Player noted in Adobe security bulletin APSB19-46: https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb19-46.html

now there are official MS Edge betas https://www.computerworld.com/article/3433539/microsoft-promotes-full-chromium-edge-to-beta-touts-enterprise-skillset.html https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft039s-chromium-edge-browser-is-now-available-in-the-beta-channel https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2019/08/20/announcing-the-microsoft-edge-insider-channels-bounty/ gonna grab the Edge beta right now

MS Edge recently has a beta channel available https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019/08/20/microsoft-edge-beta-steht-nun-offiziell-zum-download-bereit/ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3433539/microsoft-promotes-full-chromium-edge-to-beta-touts-enterprise-skillset.html https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2019/08/20/announcing-the-microsoft-edge-insider-channels-bounty/ gonna download MS Edge 77 beta for Win7 ASAP

@Jody: the KB4512482 update breaks apps made by Visual Basic 6 and certain macros using VBA no longer work correctly [known issue listed in MS KB article 4512482] in other words, KB4512482 is a "buggy" security-only patch [glad I don't patch right away and wait for a few days for new patches to come out that are less problematic] remove KB4512482 ASAP and install the newly released KB4517302 update instead (released 8/16), which fixes the Visual Basic breakage problems.

read MS KB articles 4512486 and 4512506, Tripredacus: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4512486/ https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4512506/ these new Win7 updates released this Aug. 2019 require the 4474419 update, which was also revised this August. also these new updates, along with 4474419 V2 update for Win7 causes problems with existing Symantec/Norton antivirus software. do not install these new updates until Symantec has issued a software update that works with the recently released SHA-2 updates from MS.

you will need to install both KB4474419 and KB4490628 SHA-2 updates this August 2019 or Windows Update will not offer nor issue any new W7 security updates made from this point onward https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4472027

ok thanks greehillmaniac and Jody. in case you were wondering, this was the comment abbodi made. I simply needed to install the latest Flash update for Win8.0 and not have to install KB4462930. the issue with 4462930 seems to occur only with Win8.1 (not 8.0)

@Jody Thornton @greenhillmaniac @UCyborg & others like @dencorso can you guys check if the KB4462930 flash update for Win8.0 is superseded/replaced by newer flash updates like a recent one such as KB4503308? I'm kinda arguing/debating about this with abbodi in another forum as he seems to have some doubts about it

well I have not experienced any "slowdowns" with KB4088880 (and/or any recent rollup update like the July 2019 version that includes spectre/meltdown fixes). also made sure I have both KB2818604 and KB3064209 AMD & Intel microcode updates for 8.0 installed on there. I'm now using Win8.0 on a backup hard drive on a custom built PC with an AMD Phenom II X4 925 cpu w/ 4gb of RAM.

well I'm getting the "opposite" effect with any of the recent monthly rollups for Win7 & 8.1 on some the PCs I have, cc333. instead of "performance drops" on my family's Dell Inspiron 620 desktop PC (using an Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500 3.3Ghz CPU [3.7Ghz max turbo frequency], I'm getting slight performance gains (or boosts) with recent security monthly updates installed for Win7/8.1 [I also made sure I have the KB3064209 Intel microcode update installed]

on the other hand, that's better than not getting a flu shot at all, BYTE-ME

guys, I just read this recent blog about Vista & SHA-2 support on Born's web site: https://borncity.com/win/2019/07/29/windows-vista-no-more-unofficial-updates-due-to-sha2/ perhaps Vistapocalypse & others can comment on this either here in this forum or on Born's web site

Radish, there are Win7 versions of that KB2533623 update from MS download center but it is not applicable because newer Win7 SP1 updates like KB2758857 supersede/replace it and it's an obsolete update; even KB2533623 for Vista will also say "not applicable" if the KB2758857 or higher update for Vista is installed

well maxtherabbit the only recent Win7 updates I can think of that may work on pre-SSE2 systems are the following: KB4474419 (SHA-2 update - replaces KB2868626, KB3033929, KB3161561, KB3175024, KB3177186 security updates) KB4490628 (replaces KB3177467 & KB3020369 servicing stack updates - install this one first AND by itself) those two updates are required before installing new Win7 updates beyond August 2019. Windows Update won't offer any new updates beyond mid-2019 until both of these updates are installed (see MS support KB article 4472027). all other recent Win7 updates could be hit or miss on non-SSE2 systems (may cause restart loops, unexpected freezes/hangups, etc.). you're completely on your own if you attempt to install other recent Win7 updates. test these on a system running an AMD Athlon XP or Intel Pentium 3 "Tualatin" processor and see if Win7 will work after these 2 updates are installed. Edit 7/2 - then again, I would not even bother running a non-SSE2 system in 2020 & beyond. nobody, I mean, NOBODY should be using those ancient CPUs in the next decade (unless for certain testing purposes). All my old PCs use CPUs that not only have SSE2 support but also have PAE and NX/XD support - I'm doing what Ed Bott of ZDNet said in this article from June 2018. Even he has little or no sympathy for those using non-SSE2 systems.

what about attempting to install .NET 4.8 on Vista, WinFX?

someone in Seven Forums did had a problem installing the KB4474419 SHA-2 update on that person's Win7 PC since mid-March 2019

because of that, I have discontinued running Win8.0 on my relative's PC and have switched to Win10 LTSB 2015 (v1507) on the other hand, I will install Win8.0 on an old but spare hard drive (Western digital WD1200BB 120gb) on one of my custom built PCs and will use the Win8 OS until end of 2019. you could install .NET 4.6.2 (KB3151804) with its offline installer which does install 100% fully on Win8.0 clients as I did this myself unlike the .NET 4.7x/4.8 versions

forget about VLC4. a new VLC 3.x version came out (3.0.7) earlier this month: https://www.videolan.org/news.html#news-2019-06-07

anyways, I've also used the 14393.2182 of the wcp.dll file and put it into the servicing stack 3022 winsxs folder on another machine (an old Dell e1405 laptop running 32bit win10 v1607 home) and I was able to update that to build 14393.3025 (KB4503267) -also had to make sure that the windows10upgrade.exe file (from the C:\windows\updateassistantv2\ folder was either renamed to deleted to prevent unwanted forced upgrades to newer win10 versions

Edit 6/22: maybe on Vista/Server 2008. not on XP/POSReady 2009 (as in unaffected). new updates from mid-2018 to April 2019 for XP/POSReady are safe to install, even for non-SSE2 systems as the Meltdown/Spectre security fixes were never backported to XP/POSReady. the non-SSE2 problem with newer updates past mid-2018 seems to be limited to 32bit Win7 only although MS has not updated MS KB article 4090450 in a long time as to whether or not a fix for the non-SSE2 problem will be addressed for Vista/Server 2008 SP2 (but maybe MS has "silently" addressed the non-SSE2 blue screen problems in newer updates made in mid-2018 and beyond; they're just not saying anything about it) however, try installing the KB4340583 security update on Vista SP2 on an old PC using an AMD Athlon XP CPU - that updates the amdk7.sys file.

though I find it better long term just to replace or upgrade those old PCs using non-SSE2 processors with those that are SSE2 capable as I stopped using non-SSE2 CPUs for good in early 2018 and have overhauled a few old desktop PCs that had either Intel Pentium 3s or AMD Athlon XPs and replaced them with used motherboards that feature either Intel Socket 775 or AMD Socket AM2/AM3 CPUs so I am able to install any Win7 updates made after March 2018 without problems I didn't have to spend much just to overhaul them Note: Any Win7 update from KB4091290 and earlier are safe to install on non-SSE2 based systems and won't crash with a blue screen error (BSOD). Attempting to install the KB4088875 or KB4088878 update or higher may result with a BSOD on startup after a reboot on these non-SSE2 systems