Jody Thornton

Hi folks: If anyone is running SeaMonkey, can you check the menus and tell me what is the name of the setting that allows small icons with text displayed on the side (like Opera used to be). I want to see if there's a setting or other method of implementing this on Pale Moon. I'm not getting any response there yet.

Much more comprehensively dealt with here:

Still Jaclaz, most computer usage is tied to the Internet. Even in an office setting, all of our apps are now online. We don't use any locally installed apps other than Adobe Audition, our browser or our FTP Client. So I'd say it's still relevant. Windows is slowly dying. That's not hype. People I used to see using PCs with Windows all of the time, don't any more.

Well it had to happen. (I actually thought it was already the case) http://www.infoworld.com/article/3187144/microsoft-windows/android-is-now-more-popular-than-windows-worldwide.html Windows is obviously still alive and well enough, but it's interesting to see an era pass (as in on where Windows has been on top)

I didn't even know that MSE was supported on Server 2008. I was able to get it running on Server 2003, but I thought they would have referred users to the corporate product this time around. Good to know.

Well the Vista/7 x64 MSE install worked on XP x64, so there's always hope. But even Security updates would be good enough.

Whew! Good thing you brought that up.

Aren't IE 10 updates integrated into the Security Only Updates greenhillmaniac? I have IE 10 removed, but I just wanted to my sure my friend.

I'm wondering if anyone has an inkling as to whether May 2017 patches from Server 2008 will work on Vista. I would think the situation be completely parallel to Server 2012 patches on Windows 8. It's less concerning to me because the way I've configured Windows 8, my desktop looks very much like Vista (perhaps more like Windows 7 with the classic taskbar), but I also have a Quick Launch Bar. But I can notice a DEFINITE speed improvement of Windows 8 over what Vista gave me. And everything still works

No that's cool. I thought you were trying to say that 8.1 had a leg up over 7, that was all

Unfortunately, even though x64 XP x64 compatibility is touted as a feature, it hasn't worked since v46.

Doesn't Windows 8.1 have the telemetry as well? I thought it was the same boat as Windows 7, no?

I take it phone activation still works?

I guess I'm not as up in arms about this one, only because hardware vendors deprecated driver support for Vista and Windows XP, well before their expiry dates (I know CPU blocking might be unprecedented). My question is, will Windows 7 and 8x install on these CPUs without issue? I suppose if that was able to happen, then Microsoft should let the systems run in a compatibility mode of some sort. But I suppose I wonder why can't Microsoft exercise their "subject to change without notice" clause and say "Look guys. We're in a different business climate now. We need to streamline support testing and maximize profit. In doing so, we need to accelerate the deprecation of older systems, so that we have one corporate vision." Besides, since it's their product, can't they do with it as they wish, even by providing limited support based on certain new conditions? I guess, the only reason I'm not so worked up on this, is that I can run Windows 8 on older but still suitable hardware. Not meant to enrage anyone.

So it's increased by ten months, is that correct? October 10th, 2023?

Well if you have ultra late generation CPUs, and you're running Windows 7 or 8.1 - watch out! https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4012982/discusses-an-issue-in-which-you-receive-a-your-pc-uses-a-processor-tha

I decided to uninstall both and just reinstall the security only update. It seems to run more brisk and responsively. I hope it's not just my imagination. Perhaps there are server only improvements that don't translate well to Windows 8 (in the monthly rollup) - just a guess though.

I noticed something slower (but smoother) in video rendering. When I minimize a window, I clearly see the animation. Whereas before, I never saw it (I only used to see it animate the maximize action).

Well it works so I was able to restart. So far, so good.

OK I'll give it a whirl. Cross your fingers! Crap here we go!

I'm alive. Rebooted with this month's updates. And yes I would believe that only the Flash and Security Only are relevant here. However .... Would the Security wrap up (107 MB) contain January and Februay's updates?

OK testing the links you gave for the x64 updates ... rebooting.

Wow! I have been slow on this. I guess after a couple months it hasn't been such a priority ...lol. I will look later though.

By the way, wouldn't repackaging your OS with changes made be illegal to redistribute anyhow? It would be like me slimming down XP with NLite, and placing it online, no?

Especially the case now that Cyberfox is biting the dust. Cyberfox will shift to 52 ESR (likely today) and then die once the ESR cycle has completed.