Jody Thornton

Well today is Patch Tuesday, so I'll be interested in seeing how updates go on Vista today. I'll awaiting Server 2012 updates in the Microsoft Catalog, and updating my Windows 8 findings later. Hope it goes well.

I worry that one day there will be some killer application for Windows 10, that requires me to install it. I hope it will work in Wine by that point ...lol. I can't see myself changing my stance on windows 10.

Tsk tsk tsk .... that's not an educated opinion. Out of the box, perhaps. But Windows 8 can be molded in to a VERY VERY productive environment. Better than Windows 7 - hands down! )

They wouldn't want this turkey, but I don't think Microsoft cares (nor does any company). Geeks are no longer the audience. Take Firefox for example and it's ongoing showdown to XUL-ageddon in November. A lot of devoted power users think, "Why did Mozilla abandon their original audience"?. The answer is "Because the audience changed.". It used to be claiming to be the answer to IE 6 and all of it's problems. Geeks were a viable crowd to go after. But no it's the mobile crowd. They ddn't actually abandon the geek crowd, as really they were never that committed to them. That's just where the action was. I think Microsoft is late to the game on mobility. I know they can't stay in PC land because they have to be seen by their shareholders as adapting (or at least trying to). I don't know what I would advise this company

So far that appears to have fixed things. Thank you UCyborg!

I think we have a winner I'll uncheck to run ASAP if missed.

No sorry. Real Time Protection is ON. Let me check though to see if the task runs when missed.

Very interesting and very helpful Just to make sure I'm clear, the Windows Update service is on, but Automatic Updating is off. So I only update Windows Defender either manually, or with Task Scheduler. This error appears to have gone away now that I don't include Windows Defender in Ccleaner, so that's maybe one down. But when I boot my system and login to the desktop, after about two minutes, Windows Defender starts scanning my whole system. How can I stop that scan from happening? Again, so far the help has been terrific. Thank you so much

I was looking at Q4OS. Do they use Debian repositories or software packages? I like the idea of installing it to an ARM device, but I'm not sure what Debian build is needed for that. I checked out the link that Q4OS provided, but there are a few ARM entries.

You "nailed" it on all counts jaclaz

I was about to link to this. It appears that a few of us need to line up face against the wall and prepare for a lashing. Please whip gently

And they can remove the installed payload of "Removed Components" using the DISM command, but be careful with this one. https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/joscon/2012/11/20/features-on-demand-in-windows-8-and-windows-server-2012/

Also with Dibya's ExtendedXP setup, apparently Pale Moon v27.3x can run. I'd like to find out more information about that for sure.

Wait a sec though, are you saying that you made Waterfox work with compatibility mode?

Now that is good to know. A lot of Waterfox users would want to know that. Even though I think XP and the Internet should now divorce each other, there are still those seeking a 64-bit browsing option on XP.

So if I were running XP or Windows 2000 on a FAT32 partition (which I actually did back in the day), are you saying I'd be immune to Wanna cry(pt)?

Thanks greenhillmaniac ...lol. But really, the work you're doing is appreciated. I'm just debating whether or not to go back to Vista on this old PC until I get a new machine.

Oh no, I was half serious and half joking. I never was offended.

Oh come on. lol - at least let me retain credit for bringing initial attention to this. Even with Windows 8, greenhillmaniac allowed that courtesy to remain, and I appreciated that.

Wow! I'm impressed. The Vista Forum over at vistax64.com seems slow to embrace this, but it was the same with Windows 8 as well.

I have two questions that I posted at eightforums.com, but no answer there. . When I update manually or use the Task Scheduler, I receive an error in Task Scheduler, saying "The system cannot find the file specified (0x80070002)", Or I get an update message if I perform it manually, saying I wasn't able to connect. HOWEVER - Windows Defender DOES indeed updates. Can anyone explain this anomaly? Also, I have disabled Automatic Protection, and I have set up update and scan times for Windows Defender, through the Task Scheduler. However, when I login to my desktop, after about two minutes, Windows Defender updates and scans my system. I turn it off and it stops. When am I not doing so that this action will be disabled? I update at 2:45 am and scan at 3am, and this works, but why does it need to scan at boot time?

Here are the ones I skipped: KB3163589 Out of Date Notification KB2976978 Compatibility Update for Windows 8.0 and 8.1 Update KB2975331 August 2014 Update Rollup - Microsoft recommended uninstalling because of boot issues - no benefits to desktop use anyway

I know there was an IE 10 EOL update to nag you to upgrade. I have cleared out my Software Distribution folder (since I no longer use Automatic Updates) so all of my update history is gone. But I will do a search for updates, tomorrow, and report back on the updates I skipped. How's that sound?

Thanks guys, before I went home from work, I was able to use the Microsoft Update Catalog. So I updated the two PCs.

Was it anything like this?