Jody Thornton

I was about to post similarly. Now before I install, as of ** right now ** what is the difference between the Security Only and the Monthly Rollup? As of right now, should they not be identical? The Monthly Rollup is slightly bigger. For the test I have only downloaded the Flash, IE10, and Security Only. From what I understand, the .NET updates are included in the Security Only. So if I had v3.5 installed, I'd only need the single file. Here we go!

Well it's not up on the page yet (11:26 am EST) I'll keep checking.

Tomorrow we shall see if this experiment survives the unified update model. My concern is that perhaps with the new rollup format, Microsoft may introduce checks on Server 2012 rollups that will identify Windows 8, and halt installation. I will try extracting the updates with 7-zip to see what's inside. Perhaps standalone installers for each updates can be extracted and ran separately. Tomorrow will tell.

Actually when I used XP x64, I used the Vista/7 64-bit MSE and it worked fully. And I used the x86 version of the Vista/7 install on Server 2003. I know that the Server 2003 arrangement I described still updates on v4.4.304. I just wondered if the XP x64 setup still did.

Well Frank Barone (of Everybody Loves Raymond fame) was supposedly told he required a cone of silence when he felt "Bad Frank" coming on.

I don't believe ANY telemetry updates are available on Windows Server 2012 (initial version). There were none on Windows 8. Now I'm curious as to what will happen on Patch Tuesday in October. Will I only be able to download rollups? Will they be reworked so that they will ONLY install on Windows Server 2012? In a couple weeks I'll find out.

And I just learned in another thread that XP x64 Edition is still supported by the 64-bit variant of Waterfox. I wonder if the Vista/7 version of MSE still works on it.

Wow, really? Now all you need is the classic theme restoration add-on to rid of Australis

So has MSE and also Microsoft Security Scanner been cancelled for XP/2003 as well?

It appears that KB3184471 was made to supersede update KB3160352 in MS16-081. Not sure why that one does not install.

Seems to be multiple updates from one of the screenshots in this thread: http://www.eightforums.com/windows-8-news/75904-microsoft-security-bulletin-summary-september-2016-a.html

I also understood we weren't getting these cumulative updates until October. Now when I was on the September 2016 Bulletins Page, the separate Windows 8.1 updates were there. Could there have just been an older update offered up that you did not previously install?

Well I'm back to working again (well able to post anyway)

I Yeah the date system on the forum was off-kilter. I was unable to even post yesterday

I remember how you guys felt (in another thread) that I was being a tad off-putting when I expressed concerns about using XP. Well, if you thought I was bad, hear these guys: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13060 Yikes! It does confirm that if there was any hope at all for a Pale Moon version to target older OS releases, it's likely for nigh.

Cue the Circus music: (daaah-daaah-da-da-dum ... daaah-daaah-da-da-dum) Step right up, yes ... step right up. We are now going to witness the eighth month witnessing the Ultimate Updater (that's me ...lol) as he dare take updates from Server 2012 and hopes to accomplish the incredible feat of installing those updates on to a Windows 8 system. You say it can't be done, ... he'll ruin his system. He proceeds forward nonetheless. Here are the updates that he will install.... For the OS itself => KB3175024, KB3177186, KB3184122, KB3184471, KB3184943, KB3185911 For the Adobe Flash Player: KB3188128 and for Internet Explorer 10: KB3185319 Has this man lost his mind? Will he be able to reboot his system? We'll find out. Greenhillmanic, if you would roll the drums please ........................................................................................ see you after the boot! _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ After the Reboot! (for some reason I cannot post a new entry ... it says "time between new posts are limited and that I'd have to wait for -60834 seconds) OK so I'm back. Now interestingly KB3184471 was not consider required for my system, so that on did not install. I'm going to re-investigate that one now. However the rest installed. So there is eight months done. I wonder how October will go regarding cumulative updates.

I went and bought two sealed Windows 8 Pro DVDs from a local IT support retailer. The first one was in November for $60.00 (as opposed to $80.00). And I went back to the same guy and purchased the second one just a few weeks ago for $50.00. I was able to talk him down more, by "emphasizing" he was still stuck with them, and no one wants Windows 8 anymore (except me).

Go to page 2 of this thread, and scroll halfway down. MY CPUs apparently lack the PREFETCHW instruction, and that disallows running the x64 version of Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. The CPUs were all launched prior to 2008 Plus, if you go to the Windows 8 Forums linked below, you'll see many had issues with the upgrade. I'm surprised this is news to so many. http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/33167-8-1-upgrades-says-wont-work-pentium-4-prescott-630-a-2.html

That's odd Noel, because you posted in that very thread back at Christmas time. Let me go find it. It was well known that many had hardware issues and could not upgrade to Windows 8.1

I'll go find it later. But yes, it's in there.... lol

Now that would be a fun game for another thread Noel. My wishlist OS ...lol.

Actually not exactly Harry Tri. I have come to prefer Windows 8 because of it lacks telemetry updates and GWX. However, it started out because I use a system that runs on a pair of Netburst (P4--style) Xeons. These CPUs lack some of the security components needed to run the x64 version of Windows 8.1. So at Windows 8 I must stay, or replace the system. But now that all of that telemetry crap and updating crap came to light. I do prefer Windows 8. So if and when I acquire a newer system, I will still use Windows 8. This was the thread (below) where I discovered all of this:

That's why i prefer Windows 8 and Vista. They seem to roll beneath Microsoft's radar, but yet Windows 8 stll has a healthy measure of compatibility with modern-day applications. Vista still tends to run what I want.

Haaaaa! Now there's a clever response (but more true than I might think ...lol)

Now that I have to try. I do like the Windows 8 flat look, but no Metro AT ALL is quite tempting.