Jody Thornton

Just came by to see if there was any reaction to the new release of Pale Moon 30. It appears that, while it runs on the Goanna engine, Pale Moon is no longer built on UXP. I'm just trying it right now to see if any sites I was using before run now.

See I like the Windows 8x style. Sure it's flat, but at least there's still a frame and the context buttons are more condensed placed

The problem is though that the trickery is rendered useless upon every Vivaldi update. Then you have figure out new CSS code to rearrange tabs all over again. :(

This idea comes from the Pale Moon reddit, but I think it might be a clever idea, especially for those that choose forked browsers for UI customization above all else: https://www.reddit.com/r/palemoon/comments/tde75d/palemoon_outside_chrome_inside_is_it_possible/ Think of it like IE-Tab for Chromium. It could be in the form of an extension, or a a shell for WebKit/Blink. Best to read what's there. The idea is that as Pale Moon and other forks become less compatible with the modern web, one could run a Chromium session inisde the tab of a Gecko browser. Could such a thing work?

My girlfriend has a Dell XPS 8500 desktop. She has pulled it out of storage, and it's running Windows 10 (Build 1511). I tried to update past that, but I've learned it's not supported. In fact, she should be shocked the Windows 10 was able to be upgraded to in the first place. Saddens me a little, since her system works wonderfully, but she'd be in fact better (security-wise) with Windows 8.1. I know some folks have been able to fresh install Windows 10 (Build 1809) or even higher, from media onto this same system, offline. However, I really don't want to fresh install on a system that's fully working to her liking. Which brings me to this; if we leave her on 1511, and keep Google Chrome and Office 360 applications up to date, will she be REASONABLY safe? She doesn't really game, or go to risky sistes. I'm just pondering ideas.

Just interested in what Roytam1 is considering, now that Moon-Matt are cancelling Basilisk. Would anyone here be interested in taking it over? I use Basilisk as a WebRTC application for work. Perhaps I should consider moving to Serpent 52, even though I'm on Windows 8.

Was that you on the Windows 8 Forum that I spoke with @erpdude8?

I will add that I used Windows RT for a time on a Surface tablet. Mine was based on an ARM build of Windows 8.1. Sadly, the apps store was pretty much dead by 2018, and browsing was pretty much limited to IE11, but that was still halfway usable then. I made a point of using Windows RT solely in Metro mode, so I used only apps, and tried to never go to the desktop. For that purpose, I would say Metro was a nice experience.

To address jaclaz' concern that we are evaluating an OS in a FrankenState of customization, I still will concede that out of the box Windows 8 has been one of the most stable overall versions of Windows I've used. I'd follow that with Windows XP x64 Edition and Windows 2000 Professional. I'm referring to out of the box use.

Exactly. I NEVER recalled NoelC saying that 7 was faster at all. Put the bong down jaclaz ... lol (kidding, but still ...lol)

Flash still works after installing KB5007245 for November 2021

KB5007245 was issued today, so I'll be attempting that update this evening. EDIT: Flash still works

I installed the October 2021 (KB5006732) update AND ...................... Flash Works!!!!

It works. I guess I was hoping for someone to guarantee it first, since I'd rather not experiment with this system. But it appears we're good. EDIT: KB5007245 was issued today, and it appears to be the same situation, so I'll chance my luck and install it this evening.

From what I posted on eightforums.com .... .... I installed the October 2021 (KB5006732) update AND ...................... Flash Works!!!! I'm using Server 2012 updates to patch the original Windows 8. From what I knew, the Security Only updates for July, August and September 2021 have the Flash removal. So I am glad to see that October does not.

If I download this October’s updates from the Microsoft Catalog for Windows Server 2012 or for Windows 8.1, do they still remove the built in Adobe Flash component? There has to be someone that can answer this. I last installed updates on Windows 8 back in June. I'm hoping I can skip the last three months (which include the Flash removal tool), and resume installing updates in October and November (that is provided the Flash removal tool is no longer part of the updates),

Right. What I'm concerned with though is that the security updates for July, August and September 2021 also removed Flash. I'm hopeful that one day I can decide to skip a number of months and then continue patching my system. Currently I'm patched up to June 2021. It would be great if I could commence from October onwards, thereby skipping the summer-month updates. This is provided that the Flash removal is no longer combined with those updates. I'm hoping it's no different than skipping the update that included the patch for Spectre and Meltdown four years ago. I've had no problems since.

Sorry to bump - but I'm hoping someone can confirm what I asked above. I cannot seem to find official information on this.

Same with Waterfox Browser. Windows 8x and a processor with SSE4.2 is now required for the new G4 version.

Do I understand correctly that the update for October for Server 2012 (KB5006732) and for 8.1 does NOT have the Flash removal component?

Well it won't be at least until Wednesday. I really do prefer to keep this a clean system, I'll be honest - rather than install/uninstall stuff.

Where can I find this? Just in case Waterfox turns out not to be an option in the future?

My question is - how do you get the Download Manager window to disappear COMPLETELY? Fatty Matty Boy is uninterested in helping anyone - even on native Interlink.

Thank you - I'll check it out. Well this particular issue would affect Windows 10 too.

Wow! There's NOBODY that can answer this question? I'm not meaning to sound impatient - I promise. I'm just astonished that there are no takers.