Jody Thornton

That's alright. I already have the LTSC 2019 box setup, customized, pared down and ready to go for use next year, so I'll stick with it. Plus the LTSC 2016 won't have support updates for as long, And I hear the more recent LTSC builds have a much fatter and bloated Windows Defender implementation that causes a performance hit.

No I actually prefer ESR versions. They stay with the same feature set, and userChrome.css changes to the UI are set. Otherwise, I'd have to make changes every three weeks. Plus I'm staying on Windows 8 for the meantime, not Windows 8.1

My understanding is if I skipped that month's update (I think it was April 2018), I would have the following updates, and not the one with Spectre/Meltdown patches. I never used the rollups. Anyway, everything worked out fine

I thought so. I had resigned to not using it, as I knew that October 2023 updates were going to be the last ones generally available. I have turned off the Windows Update service, since I now just manually update Windows Defender. So I'm going to run the OS as is for the remainder of the year. I'm still getting updates for Firefox ESR 115, so we're good until September there. I'm OK that I can't use these new ESU updates for Windows 8. I always installed the "Security Only Update" and not the rollups, since that allowed me to bypass the Spectre, Meltdown and Flash patches. End of an era. Next year I'll move to Windows 10 LTSC 2019. I'll miss ya Windows 8.

Hopefully what I'm asking is not in violation of the forum terms and conditions: Has anyone on Windows 8 attempted downloading and installing the November 14, 2023 update (KB5032247), which is the Monthly Rollup? I have turned off Windows Update, now that October 2023 has come and gone. I didn't wish to act as a guinea pig this time, but I am interested if it still installs, without any tools or patches.

Yeah but mina701, it's perfectly reasonable to offer up valid alternatives to bridge the gap. He just wants to read the files. If you're saying (like the OP) that only valid solution to an issue is exactly what was specified in the thread title, and no one can offer up a better idea, that's not being reasonable at all. You did understand what point I was trying to drive home in the doctor's visit scenario, didn't you? OK I'm done

I'll say! I mean, you try to help a fellow Canadian The way he sees it, it's like going to a doctor and saying, "My leg is in pain, and I need you to chop it off"! The doctor replies, "No need actually! We have medicine that will get rid of that pain. You can keep your leg!" But tirigliu doubles down and says, "Wait! I specifically asked that you fix this by amputating my leg. There's no need for your silly comments!" Sigh!

I just edited my post -- JUST before you responded

It's not off-topic at all. He's saying you can use a more readily available extraction tool, instead of messing around with WinRAR, especially since any version you can use on XP will not extract the RAR archives you want to read. Just source 7-Zip 9.20. Having paid for WinRAR, you can still use it on your modern OS releases. As for MPC, I use MPC-HC v1.71. What can't it play?

I asked already (twice) - and he won't. I am using it on Windows 8 Pro x64 now, as a 32-bit program. I'm just hoping Tobin will re-emerge with an x64 build.

Well the Linux community has no issue about leaving x86 behind. I'm not making a religion out of it. I just don't see the point of settling with an x86 build when in actual fact, x64 is de facto standard in 2023. It seems as much as I'm supposedly being "religious" about it, many here are stubbornly resisting my idea By the way, isn't there a 64-bit edition of XP too? I would think many would like to run a 64-bit mail client there too. I'm not trying to be smarmy. It's just that when I make a reasonable ask, and I have to listen to all of the protest of my opinion, it gets fatiguing. Nothing personal. I've already accepted that I'll no longer ask for an x64 build of MailNews, so we're all good.

MailNews IS based on Interlink. That's why the BinOC reference is there, for Interlink (mail) and Borealis (browser). I'm running MailNews for now, with the hopes that Tobin releases a new Interlink, so i may go back to it.

Thanks - mind you I have tried both Epyrus and SeaMonkey for quite awhile now. I'm just not as big on their UI. I really liked Tobin's interface for Interlink (which WAS an x64 build - why is it that everyone is curious about that? I simply want 64-bit binaries for my x64 OS). Anyway, I have been waiting for forever for Tobin to come out with an update, as he keeps saying he will. I customize the UI with the Photonic theme and it really looks snazzy on Windows 8. Again, I appreciate your chiming in.

Still I prefer to use an application natively, rather than through x86 emulation if I can. I don't see that as "just because". However, even if that were the case, I still prefer to run an application that utilizes the native bus-width of the OS I'm using. My choice - good enough reason for me

Is DeramMail Pro available in x64 builds?

I must have missed this thread (or maybe posted a response to someone not knowing where it was). I'm an Interlink refugee, and while I can move to MailNews (since Tobin has not updated Interlink in a year and a half now), I REALLY want to use an x64 build. I realize Roytam1 doesn't want to provide that, but it would have been the PERFECT solution. Has anyone attempted building an x64 build of MailNews? I'm testing the x86 version it on Windows 8, but I would LOVE an x64 build instead. Sigh!

You're still on that "favourite" business? Wow, I've never seen the Queen's English requirement be such a big deal for anybody.

I'm starting to figure this out now. The default (almost Win10/Chrome-like) theme is in chinese. You named your XP-styled theme the exact same in 2036 and 2044 as this theme. I tried copying themes from the default 360 source build and there is no English equivalent to the Win-10 styled theme.

I'll grab one when I get home. I did find the URL for the theme manager for 360 so I've been playing with that. The theme button wasn't on the skin you chose. I will come back to respond

Hey NotHereToPlayGames: Is there a way to set the UI to reflect what was in the Chinese version of 360 that you linked to? I would describe it as looking more like chrome but with the ability to have tabs under the address bar. Thanks for your help.

Must be the UK version. I admit to using US English and haven't ever seen it. How are IE or Edge "iconic"?

I'm from up here in Canuckistan where we also use the Queen's English. However, I always tend to use US English installations, only because I sense somehow that US English is perhaps more compatible, since many applications (and Windows) are developed there. Less adjustment, or chance exists for things to go wrong. However, referring to "Queen's English" spellings as third-grade like is somewhat insulting. Remember, the American spellings are the "simplified" ones that came along later.

Hey NotHereToPlayGames, I'm having some difficulty finding an explanation as to what the primary differences are between builds 2036 and 2044 are. I can recognize UI differences, plus the language issues, but are there actual compatibility or functionality differences? Also is there a ready to run binary of 2044 that I can just extract and run, or is the file replacement guide that you wrote on that thread a necessary part of the process? Thank you

I'm just going to wait for the build 13.5.2036 update that NotHereToPlayGames might post. I only use it on the one notebook that runs Vista Home Basic. I have Serpent 52 for Reddit. I'll have to be careful on MyPal 68.

Well I guess we are never going to find out. I created a new profile, and it loaded. I used version 91 of the add on this time. I've imported all of my settings from the old profile, so we're good. But everyone, thank you for your help. Jody