Jody Thornton

KB5000840 is available from the Microsoft Catalog

You have certainly helped @VistaLover. And that was my thinking that if they stay on official Basilisk for the meantime, they will be fine. They don't stray to different sites all that much. No online banking is done AT ALL. When it comes time to switch to Serpent, there aren't many passwords they store at all, So I don't worry about that in the least bit whatsoever.

Sure less calls, but now they can't run their Flash games. Just like the new CD player won;t spin their 78s (just a joke but you see what I mean?) In this case, not teaching a old dog new tricks is letting them compute like it's 2005. Oh wait, that's the same mandate as MSFN :p (kidding ......lol)

Nope not stepping on toes at all. Here's what the situation is. My parents are in their late 70s. They migrated from a failing Windows XP machine to an i5 based Windows 7 machine. Now they used to play all sorts of 16-bit Windows games (ala Windows Entertainment Pack from the 1990s). These just worked on XP, so I wasn't about to just teach my folks how to use DOSBox and run customized Win 3x sessions for each game, or even set up Windows 3.1 in a virtual DOSBox for them to use - just too confusing. So I had the vendor preload Windows 7 x86 (and it's a sad thing too because he inadvertently installed 32 GB of RAM - I only asked him to install 4 GB). Anyway, their games run with aplomb! Next for browsing they use to use New Moon 27, so I decided to get them onto something a wee bit more modern, but that could also use an older Flash plugin. They play these online Flash games, and they love them. I'm sure that the sites aren't really maintained anymore, and won't ever be switching to HTML5. So I settled on Basilisk 32-bit. My folks really liked the looks of my Waterfox browser (which is Quantum based), so I used Classic Theme Restorer with the Photonic theme (I think it's from JustOff) to mimic Quantum. I did a pretty good job, and they love it. I almost wanted to use it. My mom can follow instructions fairly well, but for serious fixes, I just take care of it during visits. As it stands, there's not much to teach. For what they use it for, Basilisk just woks, and I'm sure Serpent substituted in will be fine. They used Pale Moon for quite some time, and then New Moon later. Again everything just worked for them, so there's no learning curve that I'm concerned with. I'm just worried that the customizations I have done will cease to work one day, if I switch them to Serpent, and make that dreaded upgrade when the add-on "death day" arrives. I hope that clarifies what I'm concerned about

So let me make sure that I understand this. I have my mom and dad set up with 32-bit official Basilisk on Windows 7. Now that x86 development has stopped, at some point I will need to move them to Serpent 52 if they are to stay up to date. If I do so, will the news about Firefox legacy add-on changes mean that at some point, Classic Theme Restorer will stop working, even if I used an older version, with a version-modified install.rdf included?

Here's the thread on it. https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=26204&p=208720

Sure does - don't forget the download link says that the file was deleted

Hey @BYTE-ME Is there a comprehensive list of what the tweaks are? I have a mostly "perfectly" working system, and want to keep installation/uninstallation to an absolute minimum. Cheers! EDIT - Ooops - the file download is gone

What he heck does that first line mean? I simply asked a question. I don't have time to go through pages of a thread, just to ask a simple question, so sorry about being "superficial". My lord! EDIT: (and yes I saw the smilies, but I abhore the tone of your comment. I don't need to concern myself with differences between source code and "versions". Pale Moon v29 was apparently a milestone release, and I checked the last builds that Roytam1 submitted. I never saw any 29x issues, so I asked. That's NOT spreading misinformation, and I look upon any inference in the slightest to that with major disdain.

Just curious. Are you guys moving at to any of the new 29x releases? Can this be recompiled for XP/Vista compatibility?

You should (in my mind) leave your original post intact, because now our responses make less sense for someone else stumbling across this in the future.

Well it could be a number of things: Vista had the first implementation of Superfetch, and even with SP2 could be sluggish at relinquishing RAM to apps that called for it. Try disabling it (but keep Prefetch enabled) Is your graphics adapter adept at rendering Aero and transparency? You could try the Windows Basic theme. Do you have a lot of widgets loaded? Perhaps turn those off. There is a registry setting (I think it's EnablePrefetchParameters) that can allow you to disable Superfetch, but keep Prefetch enabled. I'm a bit tired right now, but I'm sure someone can chime in on that one.

But at this point IE 11 is becoming useless. Twitter no longer works and YouTube will be not supported soon (I'm pretty sure of that anyway) I think that Edge will maintain support for somewhat longer, I hope.

I don't THINK that they lock threads here so much. I know on a lot of places that necro-posting is frowned upon, but not so much here.

I don't necessarily think it's unsafe, but I was finding that Vista was showing issues with modern browsers and some software working properly with Server 2008 updates after March 2018. However, the VistaEx/KernelEx add-ons may solve the compatibility issues.

And then just days later ...... He goes to Windows 7 ..................... Bam Bam BAAAAAM (dramatic music and voice ....lol)

Just reading this on Ghacks upcoming for Windows 10. Is anyone hearing rumblings of such updates for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 in February? https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/28/microsoft-releases-microcode-updates-for-windows-10-version-1809-and-newer/#comment-4484216

I will likely use Windows 8 until the late spring 2024. During that time (between October 2023 until I pull the plug), I hope that Edge is at least supported, so that some sort of current browser is used. Beyond that, my tentative plan is to migrate to an iPad Pro and Bluetooth keyboard combination. Major strides are taking hold in order to make tablets (well iPads) more productive as a PC replacement. I hope that in three to four years from now, those strides will appreciate and make the iPad a suitable make shift workstation. As time goes by, there is less that I need a dedicated workstation for. If I wanted to, I have an older Windows XP x64 workstation that I could use (disconnected from the Internet of course) as an audio editing workstation. That was my old HP xw8200 PC. Time will tell.

I have to admit - it's a tad weird talking about modern mobile platforms on MSFN. It was the opposite phenomenon I felt in the 1990s, being that I was the only guy still playing vinyl in a CD world. I prefer the simplicity of the LG e-mail app, and I would like to run it on my two Samsung tablets. The app (which i obtained from the APK sites) will install just fine, but is unable to start. I'm running a version that's correct fro the platform I'm on. I tried version 7x on my Oreo tablet, and versions 5x and 6x were both tried on this Nougat tablet. Does anyone know how to possibly make this happen? If you need any more info, just ask away 😁

I use v1.3.5 and it's reliable. In fact it looks more like XP than the 1.4 beta. You may wait a LONG time for the RTM. There is also XP Explorer.

There is Explorer++ that can be used on Vista/7/8 that will give you an "XP-esque" experience, including the "up" button.

Security Only Quality Update is KB4598297. There are no other .NET of Flash updates. There is a special Secure Boot Update for preventing installation of a rootkit - KB4535680

It's been some time since I've posted that. I now use Waterfox G3 quite happily.

Just one lone update from Server 2012 to apply for December 2020: KB4592497 Still going strong with Windows 8.

But the more compatible you make it, the more RAM it will take up. Websites, data sets and scripts are just too large to run in small amounts of RAM. I'm running Windows 8 with the old Vista mail client Windows Mail kludged in. Right now, it occupies 25.5 MB. Notepad, teensy weensy Notepad with a blank page takes 1 MB. What you want is something with the overhead of Windows 95, that yet can browse the modern web - WILL NOT HAPPEN