Jody Thornton

I have to concur with you. Years ago, I was the same way as D.Drake about using XP as a daily driver on the Internet. It irked me that people here didn’t want to conform to the conditions of a Microsoft license. I embraced Vista and never looked back. And I wanted the “Luddites” on MSFN to follow suit. That is until ... Windows 10 I really love Windows 8, as many of you know. I came to see how my usage of an EOL product was misunderstood by some. Now I could see how self-centred I was to the XP fans here. I remembered that until Windows 8 came along, that my installation of Windows XP x64 Edition was likely the most stable and fastest environment I had ever worked on. Before that, I recall my years with Windows 2000 with equally great fondness. So, how could I be such a d—k head to those that wanted to run older environments? Sure, my idea of desirable vintage would be 2012 flat. So while I detest the Mozilla Proton interface and the look of Windows 10, I rather like the look of Windows 8 and Quantum. There was still some sort of dimension with the flatness then. Heck, I wish outlook.com web mail still looked like the Windows 8 style Metro client, like it did until 2015. And while daily Internet use of Windows 2000 and XP baffles me, I shouldn’t impose my feelings on others. Moreover, I’m amazed at some of the progress people here have made getting more recent browsers to work on past OS builds. Roytam1 is a big contributor in this arena, but myPal 68 is an even bigger achievement. Apparently, more modern attempts at browsers on Windows 9x are also being developed. I never thought I’d see that. I've come to realize that MSFN is a haven for vintage computing, plain and simple, and one should embrace that. I wish I had been more gracious years ago.

Such a nasty disposition. Perhaps someone else may care.

Well, even though I tried a few nice ones like "Aero Frost" and "Glow", I settled on just colourizing the title bars for some sort of windowed effect. It looks reasonably nice. I must say, while it's nice to have a Windows 10 LTSC installation I can somewhat enjoy using, I still prefer Windows 8. I just realized that when you remove components form Add/Remove Components, you CANNOT delete the payload in DISM - the way you can on Windows 8x. I'm going to try and get another year out of Windows 8 first, and then migrate to Windows 10, using this LTSV box then.

iOS 12

Thanks I will check out Virtual Customs. It seems to be along the themes of sci-fi and anime, but I will look at the site with an open mind. Thanks so much

Setting up a Windows 10 box on LTSC 2019. I have found a couple of Aero Windows 7-esque styles that apply. However, I was looking for more of them. My old mainstay, DeviantArt, doesn't seem to have the themes and visual styles that they once did. Is there still a place to find several visual styles that I can apply to Windows 10? I have all of the unsigned theme issues taken care of. I just can't find many themes.

Wow! I'm stunned. I thought it had been awhile since we had heard from him. I have to agree with @Sampei.Nihiram in that we're hearing a lot of sad and stunning news lately. These announcements increasinly take the wind out of you. Above all, I appreciate dencorso's help over the years with tech questions. My condolences to those here who knew him best.

No but before April, there were no available updates, and her system could NOT be upgraded past Build 1511. So she was effectively stuck there - well that is until her system DID update. There were no extra drivers to obtain when she maxed out at 1511.

That would be fine for me

Now this is odd. Somewhere around April of this year, Windows 10 on her Dell XPS 8500 was able to upgrade to 21H2. I only learned because of an update that was alerted to her about the feature update to 22H2 being available. We updated it, and she's now currently updated. What ??? How did this system suddenly become "compatible" with Windows 10 past Build 1511?

Thanks grey_rat They really are undecided

Other than a Ghacks article mentioning that Mozilla was not quite decided on its support plans for these OSs, I have not seen any other news on this (which I had hoped would be a bigger story). One theory seems to suggest that the current ESR 102 will be supported until June 2023 (when ESR 115 is released}, or until August 2023 when the last ESR 102 update drops. Has anyone heard any additional information?

Sure it is speculative. But for pages and pages, it seemed to go off topic talking about gaming/video performance that seemed to affect a couple fringe users and not most of us. Any, I'll leave you to it, and also bail on the thread.

Here Hear! This thread was supposed to be about the future of using release versions of Chrome and Chromium on Windows 7. Now it's gone to another place completely. Are there any equivalent threads on Firefox ESR and release versions? Their plans seem a tad up in the air right now.

I wonder if submix8c will pop by again to gasp at the topic bump. As much as I rail against using XP on the Internet, I do use XP SP3 offline as a music server/PC. I just output the sound card to an FM transmitter and play music around the house via FM radios. Otherwise I have an old HP notebook left over at my girlfriend's place, and it runs 32-bit Vista SP2 (plus some Server 2008 updates). I browse with MyPal 68

I'm now examining my post-Windows 8 options next year. LTSC 2019 seems to be the most rpomising one with support until the end of the decade. Now the question: How to get it?

Hey Dibya. How are you able to get LTSC 2019? I know that one needs five corporate licences. I'm happily running Windows 8, and still can for a year pretty much, but I have to start thinking of what to do next. I hate to concede to Windows 10, but LTSC 2019 might be an option, and it's supported until the end of the decade.

Oh Vivaldi too? Crap! I was planning to move to it after Firefox ESR 102. Damn!

How do you figure? Do you see Mozilla having cut support for XP and Vista back in 2018 to be a serious downfall for that company? I really didn't see that sort of impact to be honest. The next ESR is 115, due in July. I'd prefer the ESR, since you can count on that browser version for a year, without major feature changes.

I used this theme. Some sort bluish-green Luna offshoot from DeviantArt I have it some where.

Of course, you might be better to just just use Server 2012 R2 updates on Windows 8.1, after January. Server 2012 R2 updates will be supplied until October 2023, and then you'll be in the same boat on either OS

My girlfriend has a Dell Inspiron 3580 notebook PC. It came preinstalled with Build 1909. Before I attempted fixing the machine, it was running REALLY Slow and I think she was running 21H2 or something. We tried upgrading to Windows 11. Still slow - big mistake. So using the maintenance partition, I reset it back to the factory installed 1909 Home Edition. It ran much MUCH faster. I let the system upgrade to 20H2, and it slowed right down. I would like to rollback to 1909, and have it stop there. I would just install the remaining updates that came with 1909, and halt any further updates. But is there any way to accomplish this on Home Edition? I know that I can delay the update, but the Group Policy options are not available in Home Edition.

In Interlink, or MailNews, is anyone else having difficulty inserting a horizontal line? Usually, I go to Alt-I, then click "Insert Horizontal Line", but now nothing is shown. It's just blank after insertion? Has anyone else experienced this?

Do you mean like a MEGA update repository like what @greenhillmaniac made? That was because updates for Windows 8 disappeared after January 2016. From what I gather, for the same thing to be available for Windows 8.1 after January 2023, you would need to use updates fro Server 2012 R2 until October. After that, I also gather that obtain ESU updates from Server 2012 and 2012 R2 wuld be illegal if we weren't paying the support fees. I guess there's 0-Patch

In what way Dave?