yeah i was aware of that side effect, i mentioned it in the other thread, should have mentioned it here also. But there may be a way to hack batmeter, or unregister something so it kills that icon. I did remove the srhi icon from the dll once, but i remeber getting just a blank space in the tray, but im not that experienced with resource hacking. btw im going to try and get the hotplug file from win2000 later.