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Thanks @Tangy. I would be interested to know your results. Just an update, I spoke again today to Panda's technical support people at AnyTech365. Again, really friendly and helpful people, who knew exactly what I was talking about. They are thinking, as many here do, that Panda have actually withdrawn support for XP. They agree that doing this by just breaking the legacy version of Panda Dome, is not a good way of doing this, especially for paying customers, and they are trying to find out whether this really is the case or whether this has been done accidentally and will be fixed, if indeed it's possible to do that. There has certainly been no change made to the system requirements on Panda's website, and the article trumpeting its XP compatibility claims to have been updated on July 1st. They have given me a number to ring for Watchguard, Panda's parent company, so I will try giving them a ring tomorrow to see what they say about this.

I got a response from Watchguard technical support. "At this time, we have not received any official communication indicating that Windows XP support for Panda Dome has been discontinued. Based on the information currently available, Windows XP continues to be listed as a supported operating system for the legacy Panda Dome version referenced on the Panda website. Based on the information you have provided, this issue appears to be related to **Panda Dome**, which is a consumer (home) product. While we understand your concerns regarding the recent crashes of **PSANHost.exe** on Windows XP, we are unable to investigate or provide support for Panda Dome through WatchGuard Technical Support." So it appears that they only deal with professional business customers at Watchguard support, and they can't help private domestic customers. I would have to use the domestic support channels for Panda support, which I've already done, of course! The guys at AnyTech365 have promised to let me know if they hear anything about the status of XP support from Panda, so all I can do is wait.

Sorry for the delay in responding again. Nothing has changed since my last report, the program is working, with my folder exclusions applied, with only occasional stops and restarts of the main Panda service. I can live with that in the short term. I'm still hoping, of course, that a fix will be applied and it will all come good again. Nobody has any definite evidence that Panda have deliberately stopped their XP version from working properly, only speculation. I will wait a while and ring AnyTech365 again if I've heard nothing from them about this. They will be as anxious as I am to get an answer from the Panda developers about this, I'm sure, as they will need to be able to give accurate support information to anyone else asking about this problem! Assuming that they do have a direct channel of communication to them, and it would be pretty stupid if they didn't, hopefully it won't be too long a wait for an answer, one way or the other.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260718-3219d2d-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260718-3219d2d-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260718-3219d2d-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #3122 - Stop using <base> element in json viewer. (25440b453a) - Issue #3129 - Add palette_neon_intrinsics.c to moz.build (6ba6120115) - Issue #3129 - Follow-up: Add aarch64 to platforms enabling Neon in libpng. (97a7730717) - Issue #3134 - Import missing libpng files for loongarch and plug them into moz.build (f3ed8ce4a4) - Revert "Bug 2033848 - Use non-default response ID for GTK file picker accept button. r=stransky" (7e4c152210) - Issue #2829 - Support revert-layer in CSS-wide parsing (cacd5b2d61) - Issue #2829 - Implement CSS revert-layer cascade rollback (07a651cb70) - Issue #2829 - Handle revert-layer variable fallbacks (8a63f0d1e1) - Issue #2829 - Use layer index naming for revert-layer metadata (121fa183a0) - Issue #2829 - Regenerate devtools CSS database for revert-layer (3ad8472edc) - Issue #3140 - implement URL.parse() (a5610624d0) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Long story short, I have revived Comodo Antivirus 12.0.0.6818 (CAV) as part of the Comodo Internet Security suite (CIS) since it was no longer working out of the box. It's one of the last working antimalware programmes with real-time protection, HIPS, VirusScope, secure containmenr, online definition updates, even incremental definition updates, and the possibility of offline updating. This is now my new antimalware programme. And Vir.IT of course. All free of charge.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260718-40a79c75-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260718-40a79c75-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260718-id-656ea98-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260718-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Comodo Antivirus 12.0.0.6870 - The last version for Windows XP FYI, Comodo Antivirus 12.0.0.6818 is not, in fact, the latest version compatible with Windows XP. Furthermore, it contains various bugs that have been fixed in the actual latest version targeting Windows XP. It is Comodo Antivirus 12.0.0.6870: And in fact, even more bugs have been fixed than those listed in the release notes. Here are some screenshots: This version runs smoothly, quickly and light on resources, and the online updates are working again, of course only after fixing myself, without any errors either. Therefore, this will be my final antimalware programme for Windows XP . I do regret not having revived this antimalware programme sooner.

Yes indeed, but if you remember, Malwarebytes did pretty much the same thing. They maintained version 3.5.1 for several years 'as is' for XP users and still provided pattern updates for it. Then they pulled the plug, without any warning, and no longer provided pattern updates, although the program still worked OK. Likewise, Panda keep 22.03.05 as their legacy version for XP users, which can still be downloaded and installed. As long as it still works, I'm not that worried if the program files are old. This is not quite the same scenario, of course, as Panda doesn't use local pattern files for scanning, which makes it even stranger that they would suddenly break XP compatibility. Whatever they do with the daily 'synchronisation' mechanism, it seems that has broken things. No program files have been changed as far as I can see.

It’s clear and obvious that Panda stopped supporting Windows XP for programme updates quite some time ago. The latest version is 22.03.05, nearly one year ago, and that was a long time ago. But to then go and break even that version via the automatic update – that’s a no-go. And in doing so put the user’s partition at risk.

Thanks, no problem! I'm still hoping this will be fixed eventually, especially as I'm a paying customer. I'm still getting messages in my event log that the Panda service has stopped unexpectedly and been restarted, but no actual crash messages. It's usable, but annoying! If nothing has happened soon, I will ring their technical support guys in the UK again and see if they know anything. I won't be wasting my time with any more online forms!

Thanks! I've now simplified my exclusions by simply excluding all files with the LNK extension from scanning. As the folders I had excluded were all full of shortcuts, I thought this was more elegant and it still seems to work. I'm still getting occasional stops and restarts of the main Panda service, but it is usable. All the Panda functions seem to be working fine when the service is running.

Update notification! Malware Hunter has been again updated on 20.07.2026 and is now available in version 1.219.0.863. It is still listed to be compatible with Windows XP. Accordingly, I will update my article to this version. Tests can be done by the users. Cheers, AstroSkipper

I just got a FAT16 installed NT 4.0 onto my system! I have to re-figure out USB, drive letters, graphics, and more, as well as stop NTFS.SYS from starting. I'll get back soon!

Since CIS 12.0.0.6870 is also the last compatible version with Vista SP2 x86, I, too, have a vested interest in obtaining the off-line installer for that version ; a quick search led me to https://forums.comodo.com/t/how-download-full-installation-of-older-versions-cis-official-links-wrong/320847 but, sadly, the Internet Archive hasn't salvaged it (they only have v12.0.0.6882, the one after it, which is Win7+ ); other archiving services don't seem to have it, either ... Will you be willing to share a download link? And will you be disclosing any info about the needed "medications" to "resuscitate" it ? Thanks for your time and efforts ...

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260718-99e7fa950-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260718-99e7fa950-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - Revert "import from UXP: Bug 2033848 - Use non-default response ID for GTK file picker accept button. r=stransky (81babad1)" (072bcb2ff) - ported from UXP: Issue #3122 - Stop using <base> element in json viewer. (25440b45) (57690362e) - import from UXP: Issue #3129 - Add palette_neon_intrinsics.c to moz.build (6ba61201) (ff5d3081d) - import from UXP: Issue #3129 - Follow-up: Add aarch64 to platforms enabling Neon in libpng. (97a77307) (fe07f5ff6) - import from UXP: Issue #3134 - Import missing libpng files for loongarch and plug them into moz.build (f3ed8ce4) (38bca147b) - ported from UXP: Issue #2829 - Support revert-layer in CSS-wide parsing (cacd5b2d) (0bb7b6959) - ported from UXP: Issue #2829 - Implement CSS revert-layer cascade rollback (07a651cb) (ebf3fafe2) - import from UXP: Issue #2829 - Handle revert-layer variable fallbacks (8a63f0d1) (5849d68a0) - ported from UXP: Issue #2829 - Use layer index naming for revert-layer metadata (121fa183) (22dac9430) - ported from UXP: Issue #2829 - Regenerate devtools CSS database for revert-layer (3ad8472e) (e49363921) - import from UXP: Issue #3140 - implement URL.parse() (a5610624) (99e7fa950)

As of today, I can see my username right at the bottom of the relevant page, even though I’ve disabled this in my account settings. What on earth is going on now, apart from the MSFN outages that have been going on for over a week? Is this supposed to be a new feature, or has the forum software gone completely haywire?

@xper, I know a lot of good, decent people and contributing members who had to leave MSFN because of such constant insults from @NotHereToPlayGames, and it looks like nothing has ever been done about it, this topic is just one example of thousands. This member acts like this in practically every conversation, I myself stopped posting and participating because of it!

Et tu, Brute?

Eloquentia non est tua vis. And a few other things as well. Only people who are verbally impoverished resort to insults. BTW, nice image, is it supposed to become your new avatar?

Did I say that? No. I said it is not Android related. No more, no less. And the problem is of course that I CAN SEE ME. That never happened before.

And it is not Android related. Here is a screenshot taken from New Moon 28 on my beloved, old Windows XP computer:

Steve: I did as instructed and it worked (naturally). Right now my folder has 25h2 as part of the name. when I change it to 26h2 in the fall I guess I'll have to do the same procedure? regards...

Not working for me. My setting was 'Hidden" for years. But as of today, I can suddenly see my username. That has never happened before.

thx steve...26H2 hot off the presses! Nothing in there. but getting ready for fall release... But for some reason the 7/14/26 update (kb5101650) (26200.8875) still fails to download (as in previous month's cumulative KB's) using WUD. frustrating. regards....

its getting off topic but you have probaly a wrong thinking about this there is a succesor system in this win2k question there was windows me - what where kinda bugged, also win9x dos direction stuff there was nt 4.0 and 5.0 - where these had a 32 bit base and no dos like 98 or ME then 5.0 was made to win2k so with XP it was about to get compatibility back and future on so in win2k you rather got a office look - it where slower then 9x aka win98 maybe me it was stable but there was also this VXD driver question a big problem there was that the go from user to supervisor mode where slow here XP could point because instead of int 2e - xp used the sysenter command (what is a lot faster) (while still can do the int 2e method too) also the entire nt 5.0 was improved - more function - while keeping compatibility - and more speed so 5.1 aka xp was the clear successor to win2k 5.2 dont really exit - its a xp they made with some server functions - its not bad but its not a real new invention then there was the vista question 6.0 slow, incompatible, parts where bugged that got fixed with 7 aka 6.1 - so 7 has more, is faster and more stable these are the successors the the subversions the most people got the code open source - if you want it for win2k you have it in your hands when i looked on firefox 110 i saw over 300 missing functions - thats basicly a lot dibya then said he want to change it "inside the code" probaly resulting in *6 the changes that being said these things are hard to make - its not like we could go there and just fix it in a few hours that e3kskoy7wqk guy has gone for that type of solution - it are really a lot of changes so what do you think ?

But if anyone now thinks that Comodo actively supports Windows XP, they are very much mistaken. This company is still advertising Windows XP compatibility, specifically here https://antivirus.comodo.com/security/windows-xp-free-antivirus.php, but for years now, the installer provided has no longer been compatible with XP. It’s completely misleading and simply sloppy. Comodo discontinued support for Windows XP in 2019. Now it’s down entirely to the creativity of Windows XP users to breathe new life into old, discontinued versions. And exactly that was what I did.

At the moment, I am very satisfied with CAV and Vir.IT as both use offline definition files. Comodo's definition file base.cav is nearly 640 MB in size and therefore much pattern inside.

In the mean time I have cleaned my system of pandas, so I cannot really be of assistance. As we've all observed their technical support is a joke and now also their program is a joke, even more as it was before, so good riddance. I don't know why they would be promoting themselves as best for WinXP though, when clearly they do not want anything to do with us.

@Dave-H If you absolutely want to stick with Panda – presumably because you still have a valid licence – then I’d uninstall it completely, give everything a thorough clean, then reinstall it, but without allowing any connection to the internet. Then set the cache folder to read-only for everyone, especially for the System account, or if that doesn’t work, delete it completely. Then set all your exclusions and only then connect to the internet. No updates must be carried out locally. Perhaps it will then run stably. But to be honest, this isn’t of course a good workaround, as it unfortunately results in a loss of functionality. Personally, I’m done with Panda and would only go back if an official fix has been released or the update server has been corrected.

Assuming you haven't already uninstalled Panda, could you try excluding from scanning the folders I detailed in my earlier post? I would just be interested to know if this helps the problem on your system. I'm still getting occasional stops and starts of the main Panda service, and I'm trying to find out exactly what is triggering them. Again, not a fix, just a better understanding of where the mechanism is now failing. Incidentally, Panda's online support forms are pretty useless, as once you've submitted one, you are supposed to be able to add new information to it by clicking on the link in the e-mail it sends you. Unfortunately, this doesn't work. When you submit the revised form, you just get an error message that the e-mail and customer number don't match any current user! I've had to submit two further forms from scratch to give them more information.

It works!

For experimenting with Avast, you should avoid the last XP-compatible version. As far as I can remember, is a previous version associated with fewer problems. I have to look in my archive for the exact version number. As far as I can remember, there were repeated reports on the Avast forums that avast! Free Antivirus 18.5.2342 runs much better than the latest XP-compatible avast! Free Antivirus 18.8.4084.0.

No problems here. With default settings the font ls shown correctly.

Thanks for reporting! At last, another Windows XP user who’s also reporting problems with Panda Dome here. Which version have you installed?

That’s a very diplomatic answer. I see it a little differently, though.

That’s a great pity, of course, and not really what I was hoping to hear. I haven’t yet managed to make the PSANHost process of my Panda Dome 21.01.00 crashing again after resetting the cache folder. I probably need to be a bit more patient.

My Plan C is about trying something new. I’m currently testing solutions that haven’t been tried here before. I’m in uncharted waters, so to speak. I’m deliberately not saying any more, as I don’t want to raise any false hopes.

AstroSkipper ... thanks for the link. I probably would not have found it anytime soon.

Any other way to get this download? I am not a member of that group. Why is this not available at the Feodor2 / Mypal68 website? That's where I got version 78.0.2 released in March. I've gone through pages at the site and not really sure what I am supposed to be looking for ... feodor2 or Mypal68. ...

After Us. Genres: Arcade, Third-person, 3D Requires Windows 10/11, at least starting with v1.1 patch I tried. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1406810/After_Us/

Vista start up bug has been around since the first Haswel (2012)l, and has nothing to do with those new economical form of hyper-threading cores.

because they simply can't port anything higher than 86/87 to XP

A big bummer from Koei Tecmo Games. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty – Digital Deluxe Edition requires Windows 10/11 No, DXVK won't help.

Vista has that starting up problem since the first Haswell arrived, early 2013. I had an engineering sample of Pentium G in 2012, so I knew it even in 2012 already. They had that cores. So?

I wouldn't want to try my luck with it. Enough products from farmers here.

No , but you can always check yourself . It's a 5 min. job to cut these out of the res. file. The browser unpacks these hidden extensions each time you launch it.

Perhaps you need to create a new topic and call it smth like "Un-chinified/Un-russified 360 with basic privacy settings and XP skin". Thus avoiding your posts getting lost in this general discussion .

Thanks , do you think all those videos Vista + Ryzen are fakes ?

@ArcticFoxie , @XPerceniolSpeaking of Gurgle IPs, I tend to think 2206 is more "gurgle friendly" , it talks to gurgle more often compared to 1106. I guess it's quite safe to use it for now . But do block those IPs , trind to find them . I still have this list somewhere , can't find right now. Also , I would recommend blocking ALL inbound traffic for 360chrome.exe on all ports with yout firewall. And block outbound for UDP port 5353 and IP 224.0.0.251 – multicast IPv4 address , mDNS multicasts a UDP packet to it. (at least with 1106)

@XPerceniol , thank you for the kind words ! There was an article (I think called "how to force internet suck less" or smth like that) , it had a ton of gurgle/yackoo IPs which are safe to block {they are useless for us} and will not interfere with casual browsing , but it got deleted ! These were the IPs for tracking , the same IPs that every chrome connects to at the start , including 360chrome , the same IPs that chromium browsers use for key logging.