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He didn't write anything about "OS age", and I think we need to welcome when people take their time to help finding new browsers that would work on XP (which is this thread is about). "Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes"

This browser doesn't fetch certificates (don't know the origins of it, China?), it is based on Chromium 92, the name is Brisk Bard 2.6.0 . it works on Vista without mods or patches, could you try, perhaps it works on XP, too! You will need to update the engine on 360Chrome soon anyways. As proof, look at the UA, which tells it runs on Vista.

That's what I always told you! As for the fetching, China and Russia, they all have their own forged certificates - which aren't valid all over the world, obviously. Of course they are fetched from different sources, not the official ones.

as far as that goes, Roytam made the discovery, were stones thrown at Roytam for his observation? rhetorical question

same here no clue, despite the "how" it was discovered, should it really matter? needs fixed regardless of how it was found, correct? or if MSFN is no longer accepting new members, shouldn't that be revealed to existing members? at any rate, i'm not concerned with the "why" or the "how" it was found if the mods didn't know about it, then why throw stones at the person that brought it to their attention? i guess that's how i see it -- "why throw stones?"

Would you want me to help you, maybe?

I wonder whether you hardcode normal search engines,

I know about WebGPU, but it's out of the question for this browser. It's v.113 and up.

Hello there ; I became aware a while ago via this reference below (in another forum thread ) : ... and I can still verify this today: Can a member of the mod team kindly share some additional info with regards to this decision? Is it something temporary and if yes, how long will this measure last for? I'm not that preoccupied myself though , if anything, it'll stop "persons" from further "cloning" their MSFN accounts (you know, those ones that many existing members - including me - are convinced they exist, but no-one, including the mods, can, beyond doubt, prove they belong to the same physical person ), still it'd be welcome if some clarification on its implementation was communicated to plain members... Kindest regards (BTW, Happy Halloween to those that observe it!) .

as promised .heic is brought to windows xp closing the gap for xp having a very new image encoder and decoder (and nothing using any other modules, engines or weird operating system dependencys) the resulting image is even better then the one on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format reason behind this i only choosed the best options, better internal code, better decisions, and disregarded code that decreases image quality ----- APP "WinXP HEVC/HEIF/H265 Image En/Decoder explained" The Encoder: Encode By Filename: allow you to select a file this heic encoder supports : .jpg, .png, .tif and .y4m (raw YUV format) the encoder make a .heic file from the choosen file Encoder By Folder: this read "Encode By Folder Searched Format Ending" if you have choosen jpg then it will search all .jpg files in the choosen folder actual chooses: png, jpg, tif or y4m if the entry was jpg then the encoder will encode all .jpg files in that folder to .heic this by folder was made so you can encode many files instead of always 1 file, while going to drink some coffee Encoder Complexity: "placebo" is the best setting here i actually dont see any reason to choose a different setting that actually only results in less image quality (best: 1: placebo, 2: veryslow, 3: slower, 4: slow, 5: medium, 6: fast , 7: faster, 8: veryfast, 9: superfast, 10 ultrafast) why we should we set a setting that decreases image quality? (basicly i not even wanted to have this box) (1 word about this, placebo use the best compressions tricks therefore the time is longer(more code = more time), the others try to speed up this (and leave out some functions, tricks, try to end the encoder before it really was done), it might not always increase the image - but you can be certain you got the best option (and the highest amount of pixels possible) also it can happen that that your image might not challenged the encoder for its maximum, then a "faster" setting dont have that much difference, still it can result in less amount of pixels, with placebo you are certain to get the maximum it really raise questions to use the others, you can make a big jpg file and you may dont see the image difference that much - but why ? are we making a jpg or are we making a high efficienty image encoder ?) Hardware Acceleration: makes use of hardware registers such as MMX, SSE and AVX this speed up encoding time a lot since the encoder is very complex image encoding can take time hardware acceleration makes encoding a lot faster notice: depending on your cpu power since the encoder is complex can take some time (if so keep a look "Encoded Image Files") (MMX, SSE and AVX are speed hardware registers they are between 64 and 512 bits wide, depending what one is available (yes in 32 bit)) Quality: controls the filesize of your .heic file, the lower this number the smaller your .heic file lossless: that option is not very useful as the real question is how well the pixels was preserved making a compression (we actually dont make a raw format - we make a compression) so better set this option to 0 (it dont make a real compression) Tuner: this increases the image quality even further good settings are psnr and ssim - the other settings only decrease image quality the tuner increased the amount of pixels, as said before its a extra function to improve more pixels more code = more time - this makes a good example - if you leave out many of good possible tricks you might end up in a less fancy picture ----- The Decoder: you have to choose a output image format for your .heic file (we have png, tif, jpg, and y4m) png compression level (0-9): png compression level -1 actually represents png compression 6 i actually dont see a well reason to have -1 as option, since -1 just represent compression 6 (you can try this out by looking at the filesize of the resulting .png file (try -1 and 6 they are the same) -1 actually is called png_default_compression what then is defined as 6 0 means no compression (this is good to make a compare how well your .heic file was preserved) increasing values make higher compressions losing more pixels (again 6 is equal to -1) 0 is the best png compression regarding pixels going from 0 to higher numbers decreasing image quality (higher numbers create smaller file sizes) (and make a compromise about pixels and compression) png is said to be lossless, but i only know for certain if option 0 is selected that it is a lossless copy. (what makes a 1:1 copy of the .heic file as it exits) jpg compression (1-100): nothing much to say here the higher this value the better the resulting jpg image notice higher values also cause bigger filze sizes 90 seems to be a good choice Decode By Filename: this button actually reads out "Decode In Format" why ? because if you select a .heic file the decoder has to know the decompression format valid formats are: png , jpg , y4m, tif Decode By Folder: reads out "Decode In Format" then the selected folder is searched for .heic files and then the decoder decodes all .heic files into the image format you set in "Decode In Format" Multi-pass: this makes a second image and compare the result with the first image - according to information this also improves image quality a bit (the h.266 says for example 1-3 % in average, then something about maybe sometimes more) Create A Subfolder: this allow you to put a folder where the WinXP HEIC en/decoder put its files it trys to create that folder, but you also can create that folder yourself this also avoid the name problem when controlling with "By Folder" ------ rumors say .heic is the best image encoder at the moment as we know .heic passes jpg, jpg2000 and jxr (jpeg xr) what we can see in the wikipedia site for heic maybe .heic also other jpg formats like the jxs format (what is rather speed orientated then quality orientated) there are some (jpeg xt, jpeg xs, jpeg ls, jpeg xe, jpeg xl) (https://jpeg.org) if someone wants to makes the compares the h.266 by frauenhofer or jxl would be candidates to try or even the others ... i actually never seen a h.266 frauenhofer image yet (updated the links): https://www.file-upload.net/download-15405155/WinXP_HEIC.zip.html https://www.mediafire.com/file/g9t94vi3dr4gycl/WinXP_HEIC.zip/file

He wrote "just noticed that no new registration is available here now". Thank you for the attempt to explain, I still find strange why would he be looking at the registration page, I didn't even look at that page myself since I got my account several years ago.

so true. All I can say is when the 2nd tuesday of the month rolls by I'm ready to DL both your lists. Makes things go so easy, much easier than when win 7 was around. tx again, regards....

Your certificate store is outdated, that's why MSFN isn't green, which it normally is, even on XP. Outdated store also means it doesn't have information about revoked certificates, so it could be showing green when it normally wouldn't. Windows normally pulls CA certificate from MS servers when you visit particular website, since that doesn't work on XP anymore, folks were updating them manually, which has a side effect that you get all CA certificates MS has, while you would only have a fraction of them normally, depending on what sites you visit. Common sites still seem to use compatible algorithms, so a good chunk of them still show normally. But when my bank still required certificate for personal identification few years back, all I got in 360Chrome was Chinese error when visiting the site, I couldn't copy it anywhere to see what it means, making the browser useless for banking, so it was Mozilla to the rescue. Back then there was only Russian repack of the 360Chrome if I recall correctly. This is the big reason why I thought for quite some time in my mind that there are better browsers out there, incomprehensible errors are off-putting to the end user and so are empty error pages with only a numeric code in URL bar.

You're welcome. Glad to help you! Yes, it is.

Uploaded a fix version, the RunAsTI ini option should not be needed anymore.

By all means, create a thread for any-and-all. Just as Astro likes his threads to stay on point, I fail to see how Brisk Bard 2.6.0 pertains to "360Chrome v13.5.2044 rebuild 2". Sure, there might be a case to be made for not having a 2044 thread, a 2036 thread, a 2022 thread, a 1030 thread. But I do that for a reason and forum "activity" will/should roll the old off of "page 1" and keep the "active" at the top. At least, that's what I'm used to, I have this forum so heavily style-sheeted that I have no clue what it's supposed to look like, lol. The just-discovered .crt/.cer/.p7c "pinging" does affect *ALL* versions of 360Chrome (mine, Humming Owl, Russian Repack, upstream). But I maintain that for the most part, issues with 2044 have no bearing on 1030 so issues with 2044 should be contained within the 2044 thread. Et cetera. That was the intent at least. I say that being a "rare user" of Serpent 52 and New Moon 27/28. Being a "rare" user, I don't read that thread daily/weekly. And jumping in once a month is a NIGHTMARE to get one's self "caught up" on Serpent 52 when several other browsers are discussed all within the same exact thread. BOTH approaches are perfectly valid, of course. We all have our own opinions re: thread-count (and forum trolling, I see them as related due to the "parties" that say "this" versus "that"). "Opinions are like butts. We all have them, doesn't mean we all want to hear them."

Same thing happens when using Twitter or hotmail, the ui slows down and eventually becomes unusable. Interestingly, firefox 52esr does not have this problem so it's likely a code update in pale moon/uxp. Guess it's a tradeoff to modernizing the browser and making it more accessible.

Yes, I can confirm, it's the same like in the original version it leads to h--p://bbs.360.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=14294828 http I replaced to h--p

Of course! Why would I give a theme with China connections!? What do you mean by "bloated"? There's nothing there that connects to China.

@NotHereToPlayGames I have tried once or twice to PM you but it doesn’t seem to be possible. Anyway, thanks for actually trying Kaspersky 18 on XP x86 during my recent absence from the forum! You were quite right about one thing: For too long the debate was dominated by people who never even used Kaspersky (including me and the OP of this topic). Also thanks to @UCyborg for testing Kaspersky 18 on XP x64 and confirming that it works, and to the anonymous member who already told me that beforehand. 🙂 I won’t be posting in the Astro-Blog anymore, which should not only be locked but deleted entirely because it is hopelessly biased politically (not to mention boring). Since that was the last topic at MSFN of any interest to me, I will become very scarce unless someone asks an interesting question, which rarely happens at this forum anymore. Bye!

I searched in vain for something worthy of quotation in your last post. Are you saying that Kaspersky could be trusted if there were Anglo-Saxons living in Moscow? As I have pointed out before, it is the independent labs who “sing Kaspersky’s praises” - not I (who never used it as you well know). Am I more inclined to believe the independent labs than governments (including my own) that clearly have an anti-Russian foreign policy agenda? You bet I am! You and AstroSkipper obviously place greater faith in government pronouncements, which is the entire dispute in a nutshell. As I recall, Germany was eagerly awaiting completion of “Nordstream II” just two years ago, but now they have “seen the light” and become “born again” anti-Russians. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing - in fact it has helped to silence those isolationists in America who think we should withdraw from NATO and let Europe fend for themselves. (I was never one of those, although you have single-handedly caused me to give the matter more thought.) Frankly, the United States badly needs to pivot its attention toward the Pacific, where a new threat has been growing steadily. Meanwhile, Astro posts updates about Chinese security software and your accounts react as a matter of course. With allies like you, who needs enemies? 🤔 I learned the futility of reporting your accounts some time ago, but thanks for the suggestion. The mayor of New York City has indeed spoken about an immigration “crisis” recently, but the population influx in question comes from Central America - not Russia. You picked a peculiar topic in which to argue that the US government is “pro-Russian.”

I never heard any American express a desire to live in Russia. Why would they want to? These days, no American in their right mind would even visit Russia (I certainly wouldn’t: Look what happened to Brittney Griner among others). On the other hand, I can easily think of reasons why Russians would want to live in the United States. Espionage is probably much lower on my list than it is on yours, as you seem to be quite paranoid. I happen to live in Florida now, and I am not “scared to even imagine” the number of Russians living here. There is no reason to suspect that they are “out to get me,” however I get the feeling that YOU will not rest until I have left MSFN for good. Am I being paranoid? I don’t think so! Do you have at least five MSFN accounts? Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that you do! The only alternative is to believe that Europe is teeming with people who think just like you, and I know better than that!

It's the latest version of Chasys Draw IES. Oh and it also creates thumbnails for the folder view! It's a bit slow at that for me, but that could be due to which method it uses. It uses the HEVC codec, either an included or installed one.

I treat official warnings from any of the government agencies depending on their contents, and BTW this is not a warning, but a recommendation, and (as said) its content is (vague) wishful thinking or generic advice. The note is BTW not particularly tailored to Kaspersky or to any other particular software, it talks of "information technologies supplied by firms connected to the Russian Federation". Without an official list of "firms connected to the Russian Federation" it is meaningless, yes, we know (from other sources) that Kaspersky may be one of these firms, but for all we know, any number of other software or hardware related firms could have similar connections. And the actual recommendation is about conducting an analysis of the risk (Risk Assessment), which is essentially a simple (or complex) document (not entirely unlike some of the ISO9001[1] ones), where someone uses senseless formulas or reasonings on partial, incorrect, non-existing or invented data to derive a (wrong or right, usually pre-determined) conclusion (subject to revision/reviews/changes) , it is only (bad, useless) bureaucracy, the pool where consultants with dubious qualifications and (officially qualified but often clueless) auditors like to swim. Unlike Laws or technical norms (where formulas are given and data needed is specified, and processes are detailed) a generic risk analysis document: https://drata.com/glossary/risk-assessment can be made according to no less than 6 different principles: https://drata.com/blog/risk-assessment-methodologies and then the actual data and algorithms you can use in the document can be almost anything. jaclaz [1] the actual norm for IT security is ISO 27001 (and 27005) that not unlike many other ISO ones is pretty much "vague" and open to different methodologies/approaches: https://advisera.com/27001academy/what-is-iso-27001/

JFYI (I can read that Italian article without translation) it is only a generic, empty/obvious and meaningless "wishful thinking" kind of post, it recommends to proceed to a new risk analysis and to consider evaluating different strategies, while stating how it is fundamental, in order to not weaken the protection of the organizations, that during this process the continuity of security service must not be interrupted. Writing this kind of meaningless crap could be a good use for Chat-GPT, BTW. jaclaz

For every desired feature, there is a solution in the form of an extension. But my tabs will stay horizontally. I am a creature of habit.

Generally, I would tend to agree to your suggestion but in my case that would only be a measure if all alternatives failed. My Windows XP partition is very complex and full of special settings. It has grown over years and setting it all up again would also take years if I could remember everything perfectly. The current error only affects this particular program Quick Startup, so considering reinstalling is not really an option for me. BTW, this affected partition was created in 2004. Since then, I have never had to perform a new installation on this computer. I have a sophisticated imaging system and can revert to an older state at any time. However, according to my nature, I am interested in what the actual problem is. I like to solve all problems myself in order to have full control and to constantly expand my knowledge. Many errors are of a recurring nature, and a new installation would only be a temporary solution. I have a large archive of problem solutions that specifically affect Windows XP. So I can fix these errors very quickly. Some error solutions are designed by me and cannot be found on the Internet.

New pre-release of Mypal! JavaScript at level 78! Thank you so much for all your hard work, @feodor2! Hope you are well!

To all real (no VM) Windows XP SP3 (32 Bit) Professional POSReady users! Is anyone else here in the forum who can or can't confirm this issue described in the quoted posts? I am still interested in a confirmation in terms of the issue described in the quoted posts above to decide whether it is POSReady related or not. This request is addressed to all members using a real (no VM) Windows XP SP3 (32 Bit) Professional, fully updated including all POSReady Updates. Or am I the only real XP (32 Bit) user here? Thanks in advance! Greetings, AstroSkipper

Testing all these programs is always a bit problematic for me. I don't use VMs and always install the software to be tested in my real Windows XP partition. But that means only one at a time to rule out possible conflicts or incompatibilities. Therefore, it all takes much longer and is also a little more difficult. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Hello @feodor2! Great to hear development is ongoing especially in terms of the JavaScript engine! Hope you are well despite all existing problems in our world In any case, I'm already very excited about a new release from Mypal 68. Best wishes and greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper

FYI, the homepage of WiseVector StopX https://www.wisevector.com/en/ does not exist anymore. So they definitely got serious and discontinued this product. I will now completely remove my deactivated installation.

Yep, this thread has grown a bit. Unfortunately, there are many repetitions. But not learning very much always means that a few things were there, right? You're welcome! Qihu 360 Total Security Essential 8.8.0.1119 is indeed a new option and not that bad. I do not have any problems using Chinese programs. In China, Windows XP is still quite present. Therefore, one must also increasingly expect Chinese software and be glad that there are still countries that develop programs for our old operating systems.

That seems to be the norm these days. I'm not particularly squeamish and I can handle it well. The hard school of life! Being an old customer no longer means anything. Only the new customer counts until he/she/it has bought, then you are an old customer again. That was definitely different in the past.

I usually consider such discussion as useless, too. But I am really an old customer of Malwarebytes and I don't have to put up with such insolence. In their forum, the moderators only allow answers or questions that conform to their views, including the thread title. You can't edit it and you can't edit your own posts either. A true junk forum. You're absolutely right! We have to and we will help each other as usual.

In a huge contrast to this wonderful kernel project, nothing good is happening to the russian (stolen from the American XP) ReactOS. So let it go the way it is.

You make an acc., you write one word, I can hear the accent, I know It's you, I don't need to check your IP. Let me remind, I never had any form of beef with you, I don't have any prejudgments towards you. But, a big but - I was under the impression you are here for a clean start, no ? I'm still somewhat glad you're here, you're a funny fella. Seeing this crap resurfacing again in any form/shape, and knowing some of the previous crap you're capable of, I have a favour to ask, just freaking leave win32 alone and don't remind him of any unpleasantries, he is under my personal protection along with Astroskipper, Dave-H and a small amount of some others (don't remember their names, I just woke up, check with me later, will ya), but these ones are especially not be messed with. I can't write - go and have fun with the others, 'cause it would be against the forum's policy. Win32 is a person of creativity, he's an artist. He needs positive stuff to get inspiration, don't you freakin' understand ?!??!?

Step by step video guide Fix NET Framework 4.8 is Not Supported On This Operating System Error Windows 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1S8daWrHTo

works even on Windows 7.

For startes, first reason. Because that plonkers banned @win32. (I actually discovered it quite recently). Tell me, what kind of creature one needs to be, to ban win32 ? I can't write insulting words here... Second, there's no one there who could help me with anything I want. Third, annoying spam from them. Silly language (like 12 y.o. children). Fourth - two and a half users there. Enough ? Some of you write how wonderful that weird website is, however you're all still here. EDIT: Not to mention security issues and very questionable content (RAR, 7ZIP) on their "website".

yes, hffps://board. DON'T.visit.it / is what I meant , you're right. A very weird website, right again. EDIT: And you have another opinion ?

Yes, you're right, speaking of weird websites. Don't download anything from that weird eclipse.cx.

I never used Office in my whole life to begin with. And RAR is a russian programme, so again - nothing new. ZIP and CAB are Microsoft, that's what I use, just don't open - if you don't know where it came from.

This might help, but the last version is only 103. https://github.com/GTANAdam/GDIChromium

How's Compa doing ? I missed his marvellous British humour.

Nicely put ! May I steal it ? I mean, copy/paste .

There won't be until the CCP controls the World media.

??? You just wrote it yourself. You can replace "the" with "its" . Youtube is hiding the dislike count from its videos. Censorship or your benefit? (spoiler: it's the first one). The dislike count is something that was implemented by youtube for the videos on their website (not just some abstract videos).

I've tried several betas of 13 version , the first betas , to be precise. I'm sorry, I don't have the links anymore , it was almost a year ago , in September of 2020 , but I'm sure I didn't use the russian warez website, linked here by the user who "strongly" suggests using it. Oh , and I launch with the flag --disable-translate , perhaps this helps.

Exactly ! I've been saying this for a long time , don't trust Russians. I think there's only one user here that makes such claims (not pointing at anyone). For example , they didn't remove this , see proof. And who knows what was added by them . You're totally right , you're better off removing it by yourself from the original.