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Not everyone would want to risk to use software made in Russia, especially the one that deals with executables. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't, my own preference, of course. And most importantly, when its code is closed source! throw std::exception(“PE Tools source code is not available”);

Also, it doesn't accept generic e-mails for registering, it wants a good one, from a well known provider, which basically means you're giving up your phone.

Says I need to make an account and then log in to download.

I don't know if you saw the post about adding new functions to new browsers, old win10 are already out of support by chrome 118 and up.

@WSC4! I already investigated the possibility to port definition updates from Malwarebytes v1 to Malwarebytes v2 here: That is the reason why I have come to this conclusion: For fun, I also tried a connection via my TLS 1.3 proxy, unfortunately also without any success. The version I tried was Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 2.2.1.1043. The last database version was apparently 2022.5.20.4. Rest in peace! Therefore, I don't think there will be ever a working solution for porting definition updates. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Only four? I read it's all the way up to 5-6!

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230909-3219d2d-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230909-3219d2d-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230909-3219d2d-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230909-d849524bd-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230909-d849524bd-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230909-d849524bd-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20230909-d849524bd-uxp-73a7ce1e57-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - [DOM] Follow-up: fix refcounting in FilePickerParent. (57020c1f59) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - Revert "[DOM] Follow-up: fix refcounting in FilePickerParent." (adbf75c56c) - Revert "[DOM] Make IORunnable::mFilePickerParent into a RefPtr." (a3e6917887) - pref: separated pref for long names of css animation/transition properties. (73a7ce1e57) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

''Note that Comodo staff whitelisted a malware twice, so I don't trust it much.'' https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/comodo-firewall-for-windows-10.413789/

(yeah, it is just a bit better, without never-ending loops when parsing invalid table when file is compressed with UPX or something)

It does work with St; I use it myself. PM/NM will require the legacy version, of course. Straw man! You know that's not the same thing. The idle loop is there because the CPU has to be doing something even when there's literally nothing to do, so the lowest-priority process is a simple loop that doesn't take cycles from anything else running. Your Web browser isn't the lowest-priority process in the system! Even if animations are (hopefully) the lowest-priority task within the Web browser, they still take CPU cycles away from non-browser tasks. Your computer does more than just run a Web browser, right? Chromium can get around that (don't know if it does, but it can) by creating a low-priority process for animations, but FF 52/53-based browsers like PM and@roytam1's are stuck. Even e10s doesn't create a separate, low-priority "animations" process. To be fair, there are negative "side effects" from setting layout.css.animation.enabled to false, but they're mostly minor. Spinning "wheels of death" don't spin while you wait, for instance. I can live with that.

Yep, but you are still missing the (general) point. Quick View (Plus) was (is) a sort of Swiss knife or if you prefer a Leatherman Tool, a single executable could (can) open/view 200+ different file formats and was very, very useful as a "preview" tools as - generally speaking - it was much faster to load a file than the "native" tool (provided you had it available) and it was additionally a handy tool against possibly malicious unknown attachments. Of course you can replace a Leatherman with a set of screwdrivers, pliers, a small saw, a file, can opener, scissors, etc., but it still is another thing. jaclaz

Those are (as the name implies) PE Tools, they are about PE executables, and that's it. Quickview is/was a "generic" viewer for many filetypes. The "commercial" version Quickview Plus allowed(allows) to quickly view the contents of most files (including Office documents, images in not-so-common formats, etc.), it was at the time a "must have". Apples vs. Oranges. jaclaz

Thanks, its even more convenient. @tinman2000 Give links for these sites.

I tried a bit of a hack and installed version 1.75.0.1300 and version 2.2.1.1043 in different directories as: C:\Program Files (x86)\Malwarebytes_1 C:\Program Files (x86)\Malwarebytes_2 I ran version 1.75.0.1300 and successfully downloaded the latest definitions. The definitions are in the rules.ref file in: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Malwarebytes\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\rules.ref The install of Version 2.2.1.1043 has a similar directory but without the apostrophe, and I copied rules.ref from the version 1.75.0.1300 directory into the Version 2.2.1.1043 directory. Loaded version 2.2.1.1043 and the latest definitions are there. Unfortunately, running a scan will get past Check For Updates, Pre-scan Operations and Scan File System. But it will then loop back and loop back again. I think the files in the Configuration folder could be wrong or not up to date. Any ideas please?

To clarify a few things: I haven't tested anything on Windows 7, only on 8.1, and from what I know the latest Opera (tested yesterday) works fine on Windows 8.1. As I had already discussed with @D.Draker Opera is probably just lagging behind in adjusting changes to the browser. In this particular case it's good for us, as we can use a browser, which is based on the latest Chrome right now. Chrome and Chromium themselves do not work on Windows 8.1 anymore since the release of v115. The last version of Google Chrome to work on Windows 8.1 was 114. Chromium based alternatives are: Supermium, CatsXP, Vivaldi and Opera (there might be others too but I tested these). Supermium isn't updated as frequently as the others are but is the closest to resemble the Chromium browser optically. I would recommend any active 8.1 user to switch to Firefox instead, as long as they don't break compatibility with 8.1. Even Windows Vista ran Firefox 115 ESR, although it ended with 52. I am optimistic to say the least but I wouldn't bet my money on Mozilla not adding any dll or function from Windows 10+ that will eventually break 8.1 support anytime soon. Best scenario would be if 8.1 made it till the release of the next ESR. That would at least guarentee another year of promised security updates. However, the next ESR will be v128 and that version is set to release in May-July 2024. Support could crack wayy earlier. If that happens, use 115 ESR instead.

Maybe this is why they don't know what to do with the influx of "refugees"?

There's still no proper dark theme for win7, even after 14 years, simply too few modders available, and looks like the interest in that OS is too low. I doubt someone is interested. And I think win32 is more about Vista.

Yes, I agree: I am very glad to hear that both @VistaLover and @roytam1 are still fine! You know how much I am worried for them (especially roytam1, who never fails to impress us , and don't worry, you too VistaLover!)

I'm glad too to read your status reports (but doleful for all the victims anyway). Not denying it at all, imo the climate change is only the one side of the coin: in the german "Ahr valley" (where the flood desaster happened 2 years ago, which @VistaLoverreferred to above) similar catastrophes have happened ever again in former times: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Hochwasserereignisse_an_der_Ahr Let me please indicate to the row with date "30. May 1602" for instance: 16 buildings were destroyed, 9 people drowned! Now, what would you expect in casualties and damage if you multiply that former population with 10 or 20, add all the modern attendent infrastructure and simultaneously diminish the majority of natural flooding areas? However, let's finish this off-topic - good to know the two protagonists of this thread are fine!

Thanks for your genuine concern ; I live in Northern Greece, in a region that was spared by that enormous physical disaster, whose magnitude was never before seen in European territories (but I do remember the floods in Germany a year or more (?) ago); Thessaly (and, especially, Magnesia), the most fertile Greek region, has suffered the most acute blow of Daniel, but the mourning sentiment is shared by the whole Greek nation (the floods only accentuated the sense of sorrow already caused by the August wildfires, which practically completely charred the last virgin forests of Dadia, in the Evros region, close to the Turkish borders... The infrastructure in Thessaly will take from 3-5 years to be restored, the estimated cost from the wildfires+floods is in the €2bn region ... Comforting to know , since, according to the media here, Saola was pretty intense Glad to hear that you both, @VistaLover and @roytam1, are not directly affected. But, one thing is clear in any case. All those who seriously claimed that the climate changes on planet Earth are of natural origin have finally been proven wrong, especially in the last few years. And the unteachable can no longer be helped anyway.

Hello @NojusK! Good decision! You can find all about Malwarebytes Free and Malwarebytes Premium here: Cheers, AstroSkipper

... Again, cautionary words from "upstream" : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=242821#p242821 ... So, as I've stated multiple times in the past myself, "use e10s at your own risk" (I'm not, if you care to ask ) ... Browsers like Serpent and Mypal 68 in single-process mode, that's what I only use under Windows XP. Stable and ideal for old computers.

To each their own. I find it distracting. Many people around the world consider GPU-Z to be the best. Its readings are accurate.

But - but - but GitHub's site was written by professional Web developers! It has all those CPU-gobbling transitions! How could it not be interesting? Yes It has become a self-licking ice cream cone! Look at the massive boost in PC horsepower since 1980 or so. Back then, a 10 MB HDD was top-of-the line; today, it's more like 10 TB - a millionfold increase. RAM on the original IBM PC topped out at 640 kB, and some joker named Bill Gates said that was all anyone would ever need. Now, even a modest PC comes with maybe 8 GB - a several-thousandfold increase. The CPU clock in the original IBM PC ran at under 5 MHz; now CPUs are clocked at around 2 GHz - nearly a thousandfold increase. But are you getting a thousand times more work done on your PC now than you did 40 years ago? Is it 1000x faster or more responsive? Of course not! You have gotten more productive, but by nowhere near that much. I'd guesstimate that I'm about 10x more productive on today's PCs than I was back then. Maybe some of you are 20x or even 30x as productive, but nobody is 1000x more productive! So where did all that extra horsepower go? It's as if we took a cheap automobile and replaced the 4-cylinder engine with a nuclear thermal rocket - yet it only accelerates a little bit faster than before!

Although a little off-topic, the joke of the whole story is that OnlyFans runs much faster and better in New Moon 28 than in 360Chrome on my old Windows XP computer. And I mean that natively without ProxHTTPSProxy.

I also tested Opera 102 (based on Chromium 116) and it also works on Windows 8.1 (will share a screenshot later). What I don't quite understand is how Opera, a Chromium based browser, can still work on W8, when the source Chromium browser doesn't even start up anymore. Same goes for Chrome and Edge btw. I'm not complaining tho, I am just curious.

Off-topic posts removed. Any more personal bickering here, and all of those involved will be punished, immediately, with no questions asked. This has gone on quite long enough, and this will not be tolerated in future in what should be purely technical discussion thread. Thank you.

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted, I found that versions, already checked, unfortunately the dark theme is only partially dark, I'll try out the other ones. I consider Comodo Firewall to be good news, since it's not compatible with Kaspersky. What can I say, nice!

I stopped at early 5 and don't even know what they looked like later. I only use software that support dark themes (for vampires). By any chance, what was the last good looking one for XP, without Windows 10 UI, but with dark theme? I see 5.5 from @Saxon's screenshot is fully white, which won't do for me. Thank you!

That's why I wanted to hear other opinions. But there's a thing, I can confirm, all versions of Comodo (XP ones, too) will glitch out, if the rules list is too long. "The bug is that Comodo cannot handle long list of HIPS rules and will suddenly delete them all without notice."

AstroSkipper, thank you for fast reply! I thought the Finnish guy was talking about Komodo firewall 6, his post was rather confusing. There was several versions, like. Comodo Internet Security 6.0.260739 Comodo Internet Security 6.0.264710 I already wrote before, on my XP install 5.x and 6x. were the last good working ones.

Hello @AstroSkipper 'I have been only able use comodo firewall/internet security 6818 under xp. Newer than it won't work. '' https://msfn.org/board/topic/182219-comodo-firewall-last-win-xp-version/?do=findComment&comment=1194048

Yes, because it can't allocate memory properly, hence what I wrote before. Since 115/116 they removed the old portions of the code, so you would need to build a new chrome from scratch.

Besides, more and more software will rely on that function, you wouldn't want to use only chrome 117 on your 8.1 OS, would you? Right, you would want games, photoshop, etc. Even now, for many major software 1803 is the cut-off minimum, so 1809 is the sweet point right now. But like I said earlier, Chrome is open source, so people are welcome to prove me wrong, and I'd be glad to see it!

Maybe it works now, but what about later? You want someone to waste enormous amounts of time porting something that already 8 years old? From what I see in their development, they are going the route of increasing the dependencies on the newer memory functions, which was not yet widely used in the early Windows 10 releases. TH2 version (1511) is from 2015, windows 8.1 is from 2013, do the math.

:OT Bold type and capitalisation are completely different things. But you should already know that because I told you long time ago, and not only once. :End of OT I don't think so. But it can be easily investigated if someone is interested in.

The programme Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is great piece of software. Although the old versions have slightly worse detection rates than some other programmes of this type, they run perfectly under Windows XP. I've written two detailed articles about different versions of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware in this thread now, and I've only spread positive things. And what do you read about it in the Malwarebytes forum? The guy who posted this is one of many on the Malwarebytes forum who, for whatever reason, hate Windows XP or Windows Vista and their users. Instead of being happy that their programme is appreciated and maintained, only snide remarks, ridicule and scorn. This guy should be so ashamed of himself. (Edit: In the meanwhile, he offered me his apology, which I accepted. ) I am also a member of this "friendly" forum, and I've been really upset with this forum for a long time now, which is not doing a good service to the Malwarebytes product and potential users. A few months ago, I had a bad experience myself in this forum and spoke plainly. I reported about it in the old antivirus thread. Here is the relevant thread from the Malwarebytes forum: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/296406-windows-xp-does-not-have-lifetime-support/#comment-1561223 Anyway! Here, you can read my reply to this nice comment: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/262745-definition-updates-failing-v17501300/?do=findComment&comment=1578365 Cheers, AstroSkipper

The versions v1, v2 and v3 of Malwarebytes each have different formats in which the virus definitions are stored. Although MBAM v1 and v2 store the virus definitions in the file rules.ref, these files still differ. MBAM v3 has completely different files for storing virus definition called rules.mbdb, and additionally the files wprot.mbdb and wprot2.mbdb. In any case, their virus definitions cannot be exchanged among each other. Cheers, AstroSkipper

I was a bit confused, too. I am German, and English is not my native language, of course. When I read this comment, I thought PH is an abbreviation for "people here". But then, and only if I'm right, shouldn't it actually read "When PH stop working"?

Hello @Mathwiz! To be honest, after the recent changes to Gmail & Co. it has become more problematic to find a fully functioning email client on Windows XP. There are still a couple of XP-compatible email clients but whether they support all email services or most recent protocols has to be researched or tested. Anyway! I found one interesting, well-known (first release in 1990) candidate for you. It's Pegasus Mail v4.81 with Gmail OAUTH2 support released last month (January 2023), at the moment as a public beta (see below). Here is the link: https://www.pmail.com/betas.htm and the download link: https://download-us.pmail.com/w32-481-pb3.exe. It's free of charge and on their homepage, Pegasus Mail is listed as XP/Vista-compatible. Quotation from their homepage: More information about Pegasus Mail v4.8x can be found here: https://www.pmail.com/v48x.htm Short quotation from there: And a list of its features: https://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_winpmail.htm Cheers, AstroSkipper

To be honest, I am not surprised at all ...