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"Personally", I'd stick with whatever browser on Win7SP1 is based on Chromium 109 (EoS for that OS), for as long as it still meets my browsing requirements ... ALL the forks to be found here in this thread basically target WinXP/Vista and even the UXP-based ones (NM28/St52) still fall considerably behind, web-compat-wise, Chromium 109 (and are very unlikely to catch up with it in a timely fashion, if ever...). I'd also keep an eye on the Win7 "communities" and the Chinese browser market (), as was the case with XP until recently , some Chromium 109+ codebase is bound to be backported to Win7... Additionally, there's promise in the air for a "Win7-Extended-Kernel", so not all things are "doom-and-gloom" ... FWIW, Mozilla Firefox still supports that OS, with no official cut-off date announced yet...

Official Pale Moon 32.0.0 Language Pack can be installed in latest NM28 if "install.rdf" is edited (lower <em:minVersion> to accommodate NM28); it works for the most part: Sadly, some less-used parts of the GUI (e.g. Web Developer Tools) are partially broken... This is because PM and NM[28]'s LPs are no more fully interchangeable... FWIW, all Roy's browsers are meant to be "en-US" locale, only...

Managed to get Nextcloud (previously mentioned browser-side JS replacement and additionally one CSS tweak) to mostly work. PDF viewer doesn't work along with the page with log messages. The key CSS tweak is: #content { height: calc(100% - 4em) !important; } I won't bother any further. Driving Pale Moon in 2023 feels like driving a car with a fancy infotainment and other bells and whistles, but a broken engine that stalls a lot and (more often with time) refuses to restart.

That's risky, but still nice attempt.

New Moon 28 (and New Moon 27 as "back-up"). It would be great for family members which have problems to understand English, for me it doesn't matter. kind regards soggi

Requires Win7 x64. Sends data to x.ss2.us and packages.axiacoin.com. "Axia Member Center" seems a bit untrustworthy, though I have no real "proof". Not a fan of built-in VPN's (too many folks "abuse" them!) Based on Chromium v107.

@Mathwiz wrote about the differences for New Moon and K-Meleon: As for which browser is the best, well, test each browser, and see which one is the best for you. It depends how you use them. Mypal's difference is that 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch have a user interface from old version of Firefox, while the 68.xx.x branch is based on Firefox 68.12.0esr. There are two versions of Mypal, the old 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch, and the new 68.xx.x branch (which can be found here). I personally use the 68.xx.x branch. Mypal, yes, it's based on Gecko. K-Meleon and New Moon, no, they're both based on Goanna engine. (Correct me if I am wrong for Pale/New Moon, as I personally don't use it) Mypal is available in English (United States), but you can install your own language in it: For the old 28.xx.x and 29.xx.x branch, you can get them from here, For 68.xx.x branch, you can get your language from here, and instructions on how to apply your downloaded language (in xpi file format) to 68.xx.x is here (note: the site is Japanese, but, use a translator to translate the website). K-Meleon is available in the following languages: English (United States), German, Spanish, French, Italian, Russian, Chinese (China). New Moon is available in English (United States), but you can install your own language, read this post to know how. New Moon and K-Meleon are updated every week by roytam1. Mypal, well, it's on a slower pace by Feodor2. Welcome to MSFN, by the way.

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Here is a screenshot of the Web Developer menu of New Moon 28.10.6a1 (32-bit) (2023-01-19) in the German language (Web-Entwickler): My modified language pack is fully working, and all has been translated. BTW, New Moon 28 is my main browser under Windows XP, even in 2023. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Yes, exactly as in the video.

that is pretty cold you would need 4 jackets there

Visiting the COLDEST CITY in the World (-71°C, -96°F) YAKUTSK / YAKUTIA Visiting the World's Hottest Place (159°F, 70°C) LUT DESERT

Also note, that these links are sometimes changed by Dropbox when I upload an update.

Abduction and strange lights: UFO stories from the northern coast of São Paulo By Guest writer January 27, 2023 By Reginaldo Pupo In the last few months, several reports of UFO (unidentified flying objects) sightings in the cities of the northern coast of São Paulo have been spreading among residents and tourists in the region. The first reports appeared more intense in November last year when several lights were sighted by residents and civil aviation pilots in Porto Alegre (RS) for one week. Videos and photos of UFOs in various parts of the world have also been spreading on social networks in recent months. César Miglioranza shows the direction in which he saw a flying saucer approaching on the Porto Novo beach, in Caraguatatuba, in 1996 (Photo internet reproduction) Although the sightings on the northern coast have intensified recently, according to ufologists, the first records in the region date back to the 1920s. Still, according to experts and residents, there are records of OSNIs (unidentified underwater objects) occurring at sea. According to witnesses, the phenomena appear in parts of the Serra do Mar and over the sea, a few meters from the beaches. The lights in the sky, which evolve rapidly in all directions and with varied colors, have already been seen in Caraguatatuba, Ilhabela, São Sebastião, and Ubatuba. The last case recorded by ufologists occurred on Dec. 31, shortly before New Year’s Eve, around 11 pm. Resident Guilherme Miranda observed and filmed a UFO at Perequê-Açú, about 1.5 kilometers from downtown Ubatuba. He said it was a solid reddish light in the sky, unlike an airplane or a drone. He and a friend pointed a laser toward the flying object, which, according to them, “started shaking and suddenly disappeared”. Toninhas Beach in Ubatuba, on the northern coast of São Paulo (Photo internet reproduction) Late last year, a resident of Caraguatatuba also spotted a UFO from the window of the building where he lives in the city center. The intense light was hovering over the sea on the beach avenue. For almost 20 minutes, the object remained stationary in the air, making movements eventually. Miranda had enough time to take videos and photos of the UFO. The images show a whitish light hovering over the city. UFOLOGISTS BELIEVE IN AN UNDERWATER BASE Ufologist and researcher Edison Boaventura Junior has been investigating UFO sightings on the northern coast of São Paulo for 40 years (Photo internet reproduction) “There is a high incidence of these unknown objects entering and leaving the sea, which suggests the existence of some underwater base of operations in the region.” “This hypothesis gains strength when we come across dozens of cases of witnesses who describe the entry and exit of these devices in the waters of the beaches on the northern coast,” explains ufologist Edison Boaventura Júnior, director of GUG (Grupo Ufológico de Guarujá), who has been researching the phenomena in the region for about 40 years. According to residents who live on the islands of Búzios and Vitória, which belong to the Ilhabela archipelago, the objects frequently enter and leave the sea in a stretch of the sea about four kilometers east of Sumitia Island, located near the first two islands. The GUG says that it has already registered and cataloged approximately 400 cases that took place along the northern coast and in some municipalities of the southern coast, involving various degrees of contact that occurred from the 1920s on. Not included are the apparitions witnessed by locals and tourists that were not reported to ufologists. Boaventura says he believes that many sightings are not publicized because witnesses fear being ridiculed. UFOs frequently appear in the northern coastal region, with several witnesses, but they end up not divulging it so as not to come across as crazy. Generally, they only tell relatives and close friends.... MORE: https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/nosubscription/abduction-and-strange-lights-ufo-stories-from-the-northern-coast-of-sao-paulo/ Read Without Subscription category: https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/category/nosubscription/ Curated Alternative Narratives category: https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/category/modern-day-censorship/ HOME page THE RIO TIMES: https://www.riotimesonline.com/ logo

I have them. See below and bookmark this post, so that you can always see them when logged in. [Edit] The link to yt-dlp doesn't change any more. It is hosted on GitHub for quite some time now.

Does it really work? The last time I wanted to use a Pale Moon lang pack in New Moon I had no success. kind regards soggi Hi @soggi! For New Moon 28, I use the German language pack from here: https://github.com/JustOff/pale-moon-localization/releases/download/28.10.0_RC1/de.xpi which I modified myself a long time ago in terms of the dev tools. You are German like me , therefore you are lucky and can use my already modified language pack file de-mod-content-dev.xpi. Here is the link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/99riihhfrxrju2k/de-mod-content-dev.xpi/file Cheers, AstroSkipper

I assume you are talking about @nicolaasjan's signature. He has them.

Dark dialogs are looking great. Only the RICHEDIT50W controls used by "Digital Signature" file properties are still white.

ChatGPT isn’t the only AI-powered website… Here are 14 AI websites that feel illegal to know about (but NOT interesting to me...): https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1618243548108701697

Concerning language packs, last time I tried I had no success with the official one (for Dutch in my case). But forum member @gerwin was so kind to provide me with a working modification, which still works. (see this post)

Personally, i would recommend to use the latest official Pale Moon on Win7, despite it doesn't support WinXP anymore. Furthermore - if XP support is important - I would recommend New Moon 28 or Serpent 52 over K-Meleon 76 as the latter shares it's basis with New Moon 27, which is behind the possibilities of NM28's basis. None of @roytam1's builds builds include an automatic update mechanism, you have to replace them with every release by hand. We will see how well they will age... It mostly depends on which websites are important for you. Does it really work? The last time I wanted to use a Pale Moon lang pack in New Moon I had no success. kind regards soggi

Greetings. At least with some version of curl (and OpenSSL) it works. Best regards. test_curl.zip

thanks @msfntor I'm fine it's just kind of cold here in the 20s and there predicting a wintery mix here tomorrow so the weather is a little bit down right now (were also under a winter storm warning now) also the city I live in just declared schools closed citywide at least we still have power

Complex solar halo in North Dakota, USA on January 19, 2023… like above, from: https://strangesounds.substack.com/p/wait-wait-whats-this-yes-its-just Home page: https://strangesounds.substack.com/archive ...AND: Extreme tornadoes ravage parts of Texas on January 24, 2023… Footage of a destructive tornado in Texas! Storm caused massive damage in Pasadena and Deer Park by World Is Dangerous ...and you, legacyfan, al is OK with you?...

Watch as a fired Twitter employee applies for her first *actual* job:

I assume that it just emulates them. But that is an assumption.

LOVE Vasko Kohlmayer Oct 12, 2022 "Dear Readers, I have not posted anything in some time, because I needed to take a break from writing. I felt quite drained, and I also needed to devote some time to family matters. For the paid subscribers, I paused billing some time ago so they should not be charged for the time I’ve not been posting. (You are, of course, free to unsubscribe at any time.) I have been following the news and latest developments, and it is quite obvious that the world is not well at this time. In any case, sooner or later I will resume writing and throw my two cents into the mix. In the meantime, below is a little poem I wrote the other day. In a peculiar way, somehow it feels proper for these troubled times. LOVE Love is the thing that we all seek, Love is the tongue the angels speak, Love is the soul’s eternal thirst, Love is life’s last and also first. Love is the force that drives it all, Love is the heart’s most earnest call, By love we God’s promise seize, Love is the lens through which God sees. Love is what gives the heart its grace, Love is the matrix behind space, It is love that dresses Earth in air, It is love that makes living fair. Love is the secret of life’s bliss, We do not live if love we miss, Love is the glue that binds us all, Love is the cure that heals the soul. On throbbing love this cosmos stands, Love is the pulse of the universe, Love is the wellspring of all being, Love is the secret of right seeing. Without love no joy rings true, Love is God’s most telling clue, Love is God’s most precious dealing, Love is what gives life its meaning." All this on his substack topic: https://vasko.substack.com/p/love Home page: https://vasko.substack.com/

Sal, why you post "easily" "political" posts, but don't respond at my previous post in the Pretty Detox Posts topic on page 36 here: "My reply was political, and while others might have agreed ... was better to avoid the MAGA republicans and let them be as" - it's yours too...

For a good while I had for my profile selected the flag for Scotland and this was used to show correctly below my avatar. Today I logged in to MSFN and see that my flag had changed to UK flag i.e. to the Union Jack. I went to my profile and saw that somehow I had been assigned to living in the UK - I don't know who did this, I certainly didn't. So I used the drop-down and changed that back to I live in Scotland and saved the changes. However, still the forums seem to think that I'm in the UK. Could someone please look into this and correct things. Many thanks.

Yeah, it was @burd's attempt:

I successfully ported newly released Opera Version: 96.0.4674.0 System:Windows Vista 64-bit Chromium version:110.0.5481.30

Nope. But I hope answering your question isn't "stalking". My apologies for overstepping. Not to make excuses, but my doctor took me off caffeine on Monday. Getting old sucks, lol. My bookmark is the "unread content" link, so I kinda reply to anything and everything, there is no "stalking", but ACTIVE THREADS that have a higher chance of pulling me in over time, lol. But anyway... Sipping my hot apple cider. Still no replacement for my long-loved Mountain Dew.

Thank you so much for your hard work in this topic here, I've been viewing this topic for a long time, and I am very impressed of your hard work! I will also keep hoping that you get recovered as well!

Thank you very much for everything you do here, I hope you are recovered and that you can continue with the thread... greetings

I'm a retired EE, I've been around computers for a shade under 60 years now. I should be out in the garden, but I'd rather sit behind my screens and curse M$.

Additional Microsoft software/utilities: Microsoft Remote Desktop assistant (FREE, UNS) (Download) Movie Maker 2.6 for Windows Vista (FREE, CS) (Download (Wayback Machine)) NetMeeting 3.0.2 for Windows Vista (FREE, CS) (For x86 versions of Windows Vista only) (Download (The Hotfix Share)) Windows Genuine Advantage Diagnostic Tool 1.9.0027.0 (FREE, CS) (Download (Wayback Machine)) WMI Diagnosis Utility 2.2 (FREE, CS) (Download (Wayback Machine)) Xbox 360 Accessories 1.2 (FREE, CS) AntiVirus & Security Software: Avira PC Cleaner 3.0.0.125 (FREE, CS) Avira Removal Tool 3.0.1.16 (FREE, CS) Desktop Enhancement software: Bartels Media Macro Recorder 2.0.69 ($$$, CS, UNS) (Renewable 30-minute trial available) Bartels Media PhraseExpress ($$$, CS, UNS) (Renewable 30-minute trial available) Data & File Management/Sharing: Confidential ($$$, CS) Duplicate File Detective 6.3 ($$$, CS) (15-day trial available) (Last version as per vendor release notes) ExifTool (FREE, OS, ONG) ExplorerMax ($$$, CS, ONG) (30-day trial available) (Multiple payment options available) FolderSizes 9.0.253 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) GeoSetter (FREE, CS, ONG) LiquidFOLDERS ($$$, CS, ONG) (30-day trial available) OfficeStatus ($$$, CS, ONG) (30-day trial available) Permissions Reporter Basic 2.9.228.0 (FREE, CS) Permissions Reporter 2.9.288.0 ($$$, CS) SQL Backup Master (FREE, CS, ONG) SQL Backup Master Pro ($$$, CS, ONG) Xplorer² ($$$, CS, ONG) (21-day trial available) XYplorer ($$$, CS, ONG) (30-day trial available) WinZip 24 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) (21-day trial available) WinZip 24 Pro ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) DVR/PVR software: DVRMSToolbox 1.2.2.5 (FREE, CS) (Skips commercials from television shows recorded in Windows Media Center) Lifextender Beta 0.9.4.6 (FREE, CS) (Removes commercials from television shows recorded in Windows Media Center) Games: Last official release to run on Vista (sequels/updates do not support or work with Vista): Microsoft Flight Simulator X ($$$, CS) Game Distribution: Games for Windows Marketplace 3.5.95.0 (formerly Games for Windows Live) (FREE, CS) Hard Drive Utilities: Avira UnErase 1.4 (FREE, CS) DAEMON Tools Ultra v4.0 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Macrium Reflect Free 7.3.555.0 (FREE, CS, ONG) (Not for use in a commercial environment) (Last version available as per vendor release notes) MiniTool Partition Wizard Free (FREE, CS, UNS) MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro ($$$, CS, UNS) MiniTool Power Data Recovery Free ($$$, CS, UNS) MiniTool Power Data Recovery Pro ($$$, CS, UNS) MiniTool ShadowMaker Free ($$$, CS, UNS) MiniTool ShadowMaker Pro ($$$, CS, UNS) PhotoRec (FREE, OS, ONG) TestDisk (FREE, OS, ONG) Instant Messaging/Internet Communication Software: MetroTwit 11.0.51106.1 (FREE, CS) (No longer supported or updated) Invoicing, Finance, and Business Management software: Microsoft Money Plus Sunset Deluxe (FREE, CS) (Download (Internet Archive Wayback Machine)) Microsoft Money Plus Sunset Home and Business (FREE, CS) (Download (Internet Archive Wayback Machine)) Microsoft Office Add-ins & Tools: Microsoft Mouse Mischief for PowerPoint 2007, PowerPoint 2010 (FREE, CS) (Download (Wayback Machine)) Microsoft Office 2003/Office XP Add-in: Remove Hidden Data (FREE, CS) (Download (Softpedia)) Microsoft Office 2003/Office XP Add-in: Office Sounds (FREE, CS) (Download (CNET)) Microsoft Outlook 2003 Add-in: Outlook Calendar Views (FREE, CS) (Download (CNET)) Microsoft Outlook 2003 Add-in: Video Email (FREE, CS) (Download (Softpedia)) Microsoft Outlook SMS Add-in (MOSA) (FREE, CS) (Download (Wayback Machine)) Microsoft Outlook Social Connector for Outlook 2003 and Outlook 2007 (FREE, CS) (Download from Microsoft (Wayback Machine)) Phone Integration and Management software: Microsoft Phone Data Manager Beta (FREE, CS) (Download (Softpedia)) (For x86 versions of Windows Vista only) (List of the only phones that are supported) Sony PC Companion 2.10.303 (FREE, CS) Vista Caller-ID 1.0.8 (FREE, CS) (Download from Softpedia) Vista Caller-ID for Windows Media Center 1.1.0 Beta (FREE, CS) (Download from Softpedia) Software/Game Development: JitBit Macro Recorder ($$$, CS, ONG) (40-day trial available) Remote Access: Bartels Media ShareMouse ($$$, CS, UNS) (Free for non-power-use and non-professional use) Screenshot Software: AeroShot 1.3.2 (FREE, CS) (Download (Internet Archive Wayback Machine)) System Management, Cleanup, and Analysis: Avira System Speedup 3.0.0.3502 ($$$, CS) Emergency Recovery Utility NT (ERUNT) (FREE, CS, UNS) (Download (Bleeping Computer)) MiTeC Network Meter ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) MiTeC Network Scanner ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) MiTeC Structured Storage Viewer ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) MiTeC System Information X ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) MiTeC Task Manager DeLuxe ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) MiTeC Windows File Analyzer ($$$, CS, ONG) (Free to use for private, educational, and non-commercial purposes) Overseer Network Monitor ($$$, CS, ONG) (30-day trial available) Video & Photo Editing Software: Corel AfterShot 2 ($$$, CS) (Last version as indicated in the vendor release notes for the Pro edition) Corel AfterShot Pro 2 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) CorelDRAW X6 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel Painter 12 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel Painter Essentials 4 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel PhotoImpact X3 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel Pinnacle Studio 17 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel VideoStudio Pro X7 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Corel VideoStudio Ultimate X7 ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Global 360 Imaging for Windows ($$$, CS) (Formerly Kodak Imaging for Windows) (14-day trial available) Roxio Easy VHS to DVD 2.0.123 (201B23A) ($$$, CS) (Last version as per vendor release notes) Web Browser Plug-ins: Chromium: Microsoft Defender Browser Protection (FREE, CS, ONG) Internet Explorer: Adblock Plus 1.6 (FREE, CS) (Download (Internet Archive Wayback Machine)) (Terms of use for this version)

Well, it definitely DOESN'T work under Vista SP2 (32-bit); in the main "bin" folder, Sanbrowser.exe chrome_proxy.exe both call functions not present in Vista's kernel32.dll ; things are much worse inside the "92.0.4482.0" subdir: chrome_pwa_launcher.exe notification_helper.exe chrome.dll chrome_elf.dll mojo_core.dll vk_swiftshader.dll ... ALL call (from 1 to as many as 30) missing kernel functions under Vista SP2... E.g. below are DW results for chrome.dll: (14 missing functions in total in kernel32, 5 in user32.dll, 1 in advapi32.dll, 5 in mfplat.dll, 1 in shell32.dll, 1 in cfgmgr32.dll, 1 in powrprof.dll and 2 in mf.dll), and chrome_elf.dll:

SanBrowser is a Chinese product, that's one thing for sure... The installer for latest version v1.0.2.30 (from one year ago) has been digitally signed on July 25th 2021, the certificate issued by "Shenzhen SanShangYun Technology Co., Ltd". The downloaded setup is of a custom format that can't be unpacked with any of the known tools in my possession ; that surely made it impossible for me to inspect internal .EXE and .DLL files with Dependency Walker, to check for Vista SP2 compatibility ... And when I read their "Privacy" disclaimer: https://www.sanbrowser.com/privacy , it became a "no go" for me to even attempt running that Chinese-made installer ... So, I'll pass the baton on to someone else more adventurous, I guess ...

I don't have a Windows Vista installation available but may anyone test this? https://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/SanBrowser.shtml If this works, it should be Chrome 90+ on Windows Vista.

Good to hear that MS fixed your issue @VistaLover. I googled around but found no similar reports. One thing to note: Server 2008 only has Windows Defender if Desktop Experience is installed. Otherwise, System Center Endpoint Protection would be the MS security solution for enterprise customers running 2008 SP2, and it looks like MS will end support for the old SCEP version on July 12, 2022: https://redmondmag.com/articles/2021/10/11/system-center-2012-support.aspx?m=1

Thank you! I got confused because https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=121721&clcid=0x409&arch=x64&eng=0.0.0.0&avdelta=0.0.0.0&asdelta=0.0.0.0&prod=925A3ACA-C353-458A-AC8D-A7E5EB378092 needs "x64", while the version-specific link needs "amd64"

WD x64 definitions, version 1.367.386.0 (engine version 1.1.19200.6): https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/amd64/mpas-fe.exe WD x64 definitions, latest version: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/amd64/mpas-fe.exe BTW, I need some feedback from Windows Vista SP2 users (x86 and/or x64) running the nag-free version (4.4.304.0) of Microsoft Security Essentials: Are you able to update MSE's defs past v1.367.386.0 without MSE's Windows service crashing? Manual download links: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpam-fe.exe https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/amd64/mpam-fe.exe

What is the link for x64 version? (is is not https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x64/mpas-fe.exe nor https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x64/mpas-fex64.exe)

Well, it looks like Microsoft have managed to kill Vista's native antispyware, Windows Defender (not to be confused with Microsoft Defender Antivirus for Windows 8.1+) for good , either inadvertently or deliberately... I won't be discussing the "merits" (or lack of...) of WD as a proper ASW solution, but I still have its real protection ON, along with my third party Security Suite, and have it scheduled to perform a "Quick Scan" every night at 23:00 (in my timezone). For those not following this, MS have, since long ago, stopped issuing WD definition updates via Windows Update, those were used to be called "Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus (!) - KB915597" and the last one on this machine (v1.297.531.0) was received and installed on July 6th 2019: A few days later in that July, Vista SP2 was severed from the WU servers , due to the SHA-2 implementation in those endpoints... It is unknown to me when exactly MS stopped altogether the production and distribution of the KB915597 updates (they're no longer to be found in the MUC either, unlike the KB2310138 ones, which are definition updates for Microsoft Security Essentials, still offered via MU on supported platforms - namely Win7 SP1). But MS continued to offer these definition updates (for Win7 SP1 & WinVista SP2) as standalone mpas-fe.exe files, accessible from their "Microsoft Security Intelligence" portal - it used to be called otherwise in the past, but the old name eludes me now... For the x86 architecture, the DL link is: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=121721&clcid=0x409&arch=x86&eng=0.0.0.0&avdelta=0.0.0.0&asdelta=0.0.0.0&prod=925A3ACA-C353-458A-AC8D-A7E5EB378092 An alternative, more "user-friendly", link is: https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpas-fe.exe Running the downloaded "mpas-fe.exe" file would update WD's definitions/signatures in a matter of ca. 20s (YMMV). In mid-October 2019, the file, as well as its internal constituents, ceased being dual-signed and was henceforth only SHA-2 signed; in order to make the "updated" files install on Vista SP2, updates from WS2008SP2 were necessary, that backported SHA-2 file signature verification to Vista itself... Since that time, Microsoft goofed-up on several occasions, by issuing 1. a "mpas-fe.exe" file with SubSystem version 6.1, that wouldn't run under Vista/WS2008 (6.0) 2. internal components of said file (e.g. mpengine.dll, MpSigStub.exe) also with subsys version = 6.1, or 3. internal engine file (mpengine.dll) compiled to target Win7 SP1 as minimum OS, calling functions missing in Vista's kernel . HexEditing the infringing file(s) would invalidate their SHA-2 file signatures, making them not verify and not install... These "hiccups" were, one way or the other, reported to MS, especially by WS2008SP2 ESU paying customers, and they were eventually mitigated (within several hours or, more commonly, days). FWIW, I have the following batch file I run daily, to update my WD defs: @echo off start /min /wait cscript "create_restore_point.vbs" start /min /wait wget -S -N --unlink --secure-protocol=TLSv1_2 "https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpas-fe.exe" if exist mpas-fe.exe start /min /wait mpas-fe.exe The .vbs script (not posting it here, unless asked) creates a restore point prior to the update, while wget only downloads the file if it's newer (on the server) from the one previously fetched on disk... Come Tuesday May 24th, 2022 - file "mpas-fe.exe" is now at versions 1.367.3xx.0, engine is at version 1.1.19200.6, all looked fine, including version 1.367.386.0 (signed on 24/05/2022): https://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/VersionedSignatures/AM/1.367.386.0/1.1.19200.6/x86/mpas-fe.exe BTW, that direct link will expire soon (in a day, two at most...); with that version installed, WD is "happy", ... I even performed a "Quick Scan" to completion: But 1.367.386.0 was to be the last of the "3xx" series, then came the "4xx" ones: 1.367.413.0, 1.367.415.0, 1.367.423.0, 1.367.432.0 (latest at the time of writing), which did keep, however, the same engine version, 1.1.19200.6. Each one of these will cleanly install on top of 1.367.386.0, but won't install in the normal fashion on top of one of the previous "4xx" ones (e.g. 1.367.423.0 updating 1.367.413.0, etc.); in fact, installing any of these "4xx" ones on top of "386" will go fine initially, but after 20-30s WD will "crash", due to the WD service having stopped: If you try to perform a "Quick Scan" before WD crashes, you'll get a similar breakage: So, there's something inside files "mpasdlta.vdm" (the actual defs file) of the "4xx" series that makes the WD service crash under Windows Vista SP2 ... The release of that "1.367.4xx.0" series signals the death nail of WD under Vista, because it becomes unusable/non-updatable anymore... Mind you, returning WD to a working state, with 1.367.386.0 installed, wasn't an easy thing either (but I did it), as running file mpas-fe.exe (of that version) doesn't cut it... But I probably shouldn't go into specifics, because, in reality, it's a moot point: in 2-3 days' time, WD will nag me about "out-of-date signatures", however, if things haven't been changed by MS (I don't expect them to be ...), the route to update those signatures won't be "enforceable"... Thanks Microsoft, once more ... In all honesty though, I'd have expected them to end WD support in Jan 2023, same time the Win7 SP1+WS2008 SP2 ESU plans end, so am not fully convinced they had a mind to prematurely kill it on Vista... The amount of WD users on WS2008SP2 is probably zero now, so news of this will likely never reach MS staff... To quote "The Doors":

Mine's updated to April 2017 EOS updates I think. Might be the cause, might be something else, who knows.

Hello everyone. Glad to see MSFN is still online! I'm happy to announce that the list has been migrated over to the Eclecboard forum. Huge thanks to my best friend @docR for migrating it for me to his forum and making sure all the formatting is correct. Here's the link to the sister thread on EclecBoard: https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=113 Don't worry, I will continue to update the list on MSFN & EclecBoard for as long as both forums remain online. I am going to resume updating it again soon as I've been extremely busy in my personal life lately (and thankfully am now in a healthy, loving relationship ). After leaving the toxicity I was in before, I feel much better and have regained interest in Vista and the list again and hope to get everything squared away with it within the next couple of weeks, as there's going to be a LOT of new changes made since October 2020... Hope everyone is doing well!

According to this , USD183.00 need to be donated for a duration of one month (Apr 10th - May 10th) for the site to stay online; this sum has been covered more than twofold already , so I'd say we're good to go for at least mid-June 2022 ; BTW, I provided that link for any future reference, as (obviously) MSFN donations is OT for this thread ...

Damn, Thanks, glad to know its back.

There were red banners plastered all over the forum a month or so ago stating that MSFN was going to shut down "if donations don't come in" (paraphrasing, I forget the exact wording). Issues were pointed out that the donation system wasn't working in regards to submitted donations but withdrawals from submitting accounts were never withdrawn. Donation system seems to be resolved. Donations were made, MSFN lives on.

Wait what, i've been away for a while aswell, where is the announcement of MSFN going offline.