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No offense, but people that spell Microsoft this way are OFTEN hypocrites. But I shall refrain into explaining why I believe this to be true 80-plus percent of the time and NOTHING more than a personification of "have versus have not". This is NOTHING against Mathwiz but more of a GENERALIZATION to "open the eyes" of anybody that has ever spelled Microsoft in this fashion. Sorry, just my "two cents"... ie, 2% of that $ used in said spelling... To each their own, of course.

I kind of have to "disagree". We live in a world where everybody above the age of SIXTEEN or so (except me, I do not own a mobile phone!) will "upgrade" their PHONE every two to three and a half years, IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY! Seriously, why in *H#LL* should we, the consumer, "demand" a web site function on a PC that is MORE THAN FOUR OR FIVE TIMES OLD when the owner of that web site KNOWS D#MN WELL that the consumer ALSO OWNS A PHONE ???

I can confirm that the IOS formats still work to this day without supplying a PO Token string, at least for non-live YT content: yt-dlp --extractor-args "youtube:player_client=ios" -vf 270+234 -N 6 "O5TS2CbBhKo" [debug] Command-line config: ['--ffmpeg-location', '<redacted>\\youtube-dl\\FFmpeg', '--downloader-args', 'ffmpeg:-v 8 -stats', '--extractor-args', 'youtube:player_client=ios', '-vf', '270+234', '-N', '6', 'O5TS2CbBhKo'] Deprecated Feature: Support for Python version 3.9 has been deprecated. Please update to Python 3.10 or above [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.08.20.060440 (win32_dir) [debug] Python 3.9.13 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 1.1.1w 11 Sep 2023) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 (setts), ffprobe n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.08.03, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.4, sqlite3-3.37.2, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1839 extractors [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Providers: none [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Providers: memory [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Spec Providers: webpo [youtube] Extracting URL: O5TS2CbBhKo [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading webpage [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading ios player API JSON [debug] [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client https formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide . To enable these broken formats anyway, pass --extractor-args "youtube:formats=missing_pot" [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading m3u8 information [debug] Sort order given by extractor: quality, res, fps, hdr:12, source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto [debug] Formats sorted by: hasvid, ie_pref, quality, res, fps, hdr:12(7), source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto, size, br, asr, vext, aext, hasaud, id [info] Testing format 270 [download] Sleeping 6.00 seconds as required by the site... [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: <redacted>\2025.08.20.60440[VistaEoL]\yt-dlp_py39_x86_Vista_onedir\tmpefmf2acs.tmp [debug] File locking is not supported. Proceeding without locking [download] 100% of 684.80KiB in 00:00:03 at 190.65KiB/s [info] Testing format 234 [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: <redacted>\2025.08.20.60440[VistaEoL]\yt-dlp_py39_x86_Vista_onedir\tmpklhwl68j.tmp [download] 100% of 85.49KiB in 00:00:00 at 240.81KiB/s [info] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading 1 format(s): 270+234 [debug] Invoking hlsnative downloader on "https://manifest.googlevideo.com/api/manifest/hls_playlist/expire/1758487269/ei/hQ7QaPO9LYWahcIPjPHD0QM/ip/redacted/id/3b94d2d826c184aa/itag/270/source/youtube/requiressl/yes/ratebypass/yes/pfa/1/sgovp/clen%3D70853892%3Bdur%3D240.833%3Bgir%3Dyes%3Bitag%3D137%3Blmt%3D1746948976091491/rqh/1/hls_chunk_host/rr3---sn-4vguioxu-n3bl.googlevideo.com/xpc/EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D/met/1758465669,/mh/yJ/mm/31,29/mn/sn-4vguioxu-n3bl,sn-nv47lnsr/ms/au,rdu/mv/m/mvi/3/pl/18/rms/au,au/initcwndbps/1235000/bui/ATw7iSV_YS72GHNfobiXeJrmuWQRFLz3FoDYouFmm2Q9wIreg41H4rztQjVAmpYzwLmz_VnwsxtPkDaO/spc/hcYD5XitMHHlZg_xF73VMUq2RrPkDtQdXPmkW8Hhn2SLNLZwydZk-Dmz07CrUTO7/vprv/1/playlist_type/DVR/dover/13/txp/5319224/mt/1758465242/fvip/4/short_key/1/keepalive/yes/fexp/51552689,51565115,51565681,51580968/sparams/expire,ei,ip,id,itag,source,requiressl,ratebypass,pfa,sgovp,rqh,xpc,bui,spc,vprv,playlist_type/sig/AJfQdSswRQIhALhXdXZkAmE7g4Z4_EgcYMniOkFycU5zuN3mEWILkAbPAiASJbP8PiIRLGXkmasLAYlV3cGalnknZdkAcTafLg0YAg%3D%3D/lsparams/hls_chunk_host,met,mh,mm,mn,ms,mv,mvi,pl,rms,initcwndbps/lsig/APaTxxMwRQIhAJ8DVEKSmJcwfp_UhLuA5TWdA76-8hLfzmwlCDAft8HjAiAiremKIHE528NiUf2bzY1vHmTE6qTE09cnwnt18SlVNw%3D%3D/playlist/index.m3u8" [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f270.mp4 [download] 100% of 69.69MiB in 00:01:29 at 795.36KiB/s [debug] Invoking hlsnative downloader on "https://manifest.googlevideo.com/api/manifest/hls_playlist/expire/1758487269/ei/hQ7QaPO9LYWahcIPjPHD0QM/ip/redacted/id/3b94d2d826c184aa/itag/234/source/youtube/requiressl/yes/ratebypass/yes/pfa/1/goi/133/sgoap/clen%3D3899667%3Bdur%3D240.907%3Bgir%3Dyes%3Bitag%3D140%3Blmt%3D1746948952157345/rqh/1/hls_chunk_host/rr3---sn-4vguioxu-n3bl.googlevideo.com/xpc/EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D/met/1758465669,/mh/yJ/mm/31,29/mn/sn-4vguioxu-n3bl,sn-nv47lnsr/ms/au,rdu/mv/m/mvi/3/pl/18/rms/au,au/initcwndbps/1235000/bui/ATw7iSV_YS72GHNfobiXeJrmuWQRFLz3FoDYouFmm2Q9wIreg41H4rztQjVAmpYzwLmz_VnwsxtPkDaO/spc/hcYD5XitMHHlZg_xF73VMUq2RrPkDtQdXPmkW8Hhn2SLNLZwydZk-Dmz07CrUTO7/vprv/1/playlist_type/DVR/dover/13/txp/5318224/mt/1758465242/fvip/4/short_key/1/keepalive/yes/fexp/51552689,51565115,51565681,51580968/sparams/expire,ei,ip,id,itag,source,requiressl,ratebypass,pfa,goi,sgoap,rqh,xpc,bui,spc,vprv,playlist_type/sig/AJfQdSswRQIgdPOwtK4mbupwqiZ8pv2k9eOssn0NAajOdnMgB6ALDoACIQCadC6_b_5p64mwprXLRObgdNlTj2TQyIoBklDsdnPP9w%3D%3D/lsparams/hls_chunk_host,met,mh,mm,mn,ms,mv,mvi,pl,rms,initcwndbps/lsig/APaTxxMwRgIhAN16Z2-BpuDH8V9O3omjAFdhR7QMOi3pZAE4cBURjoE1AiEA-cqkk5eJf1-9TIR-1FPMUC1sIYujyXNiqgg8uYFr9Dc%3D/playlist/index.m3u8" [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4 [download] 100% of 3.75MiB in 00:00:05 at 758.19KiB/s [debug] ffmpeg command line: <redacted>\FFmpeg\ffprobe -show_streams "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4" [Merger] Merging formats into "Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].mp4" [debug] ffmpeg command line: <redacted>\FFmpeg\ffmpeg -y-loglevel repeat+info -i "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f270.mp4" -i "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4" -c copy -map 0:v:0 -map 1:a:0 -bsf:a:0 aac_adtstoasc -movflags +faststart "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].temp.mp4" Deleting original file Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo]. f270.mp4 (pass -k to keep) Deleting original file Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo]. f234.mp4 (pass -k to keep) ... whereas in more recent yt-dlp versions, the IOS formats are skipped without supplying a PO Token string: [debug] Command-line config: ['--ffmpeg-location', '<redacted>\\FFmpeg', '--downloader-args', 'ffmpeg:-v 8 -stats', '--extractor-args', 'youtube:player_client=ios', '-vf', '270+234', '-N', '6', 'O5TS2CbBhKo'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.09.17.084413 (win_x86_dir) [debug] Python 3.11.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.5.2 5 Aug 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 (setts), ffprobe n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.08.03, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1833 extractors [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Providers: none [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Providers: memory [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Spec Providers: webpo [youtube] Extracting URL: O5TS2CbBhKo [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading webpage [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading ios player API JSON WARNING: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client https formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide WARNING: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client hls formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide WARNING: Only images are available for download. use --list-formats to see them [debug] Sort order given by extractor: quality, res, fps, hdr:12, source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto [debug] Formats sorted by: hasvid, ie_pref, quality, res, fps, hdr:12(7), source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto, size, br, asr, vext, aext, hasaud, id ERROR: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Requested format is not available. Use --list-formats for a list of available formats Traceback (most recent call last): File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1668, in wrapper File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1824, in __extract_info File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1883, in process_ie_result File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 3023, in process_video_result yt_dlp.utils.ExtractorError: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Requested format is not available. Use --list-formats for a list of available formats I'm a proponent of the "The more the merrier" adage , so perhaps @nicolaasjan could partially revert the upstream commit 895e762 (e.g. re-instate the IOS player_client into the default set (reverting GvsPoTokenPolicy to False), but also keep the new tv_simply client - affords ONLY dash formats), to keep his esteemed compatriot (and, possibly, others) happier? This modification (shouldn't be that hard, I feel) can be revisited if/when YT actually, completely, block IOS format download without a POT; just my 2 eurocents, ofc ...

I wonder is there any tool, which can check and fix Windows 10 registry for not booting installation? Same about component store, if im not wrong dism and sfc, are doing it, their finish fine - no error or errors fixed, but i still get stuck on boot 21a bluescreen. There is also quite a lot of dism tool, but not have enough knowledge which one could help with this booting problem.

Funny enough I used not care about it too much, I had my private IRC server for comms and still do. IRC is nice since all you need do is forward single TCP port, it works just fine even over SSH port forward using Putty legacy build under 95. I originally started test alternative communications over request from friends who used it. They wanted stuff like presence, proper file transfers, proper single and multi user chat. First I did testing on old Microsoft Communicator server disc I had laying around from friend suggestion (was before lynx/skype for business server), but it was too complex to be used in my scenario. So I ended up trying XMPP/Jabber server software since I had heard about it features and it did fit great for this purpose. First it was just XP+, then I began test other platforms. Of course I did not forget my IRC and create bridge between XMPP MUC and IRC channels So far I gotten XMPP full functionality under Windows NT/98/SE/ME with Pidgin 2.6.6, Windows Whistler build 2267 with Pidgin 2.6.6 and legacy GTK runtime (just because) and Mac Os X 10.4 Tiger (PowerMac) using PSI 0.14. Limited functionality I gotten to work under Windows 95 using PSI 0.10, Classic Mac Os 9.2.2 using tvjab and Symbian S60 3rd edition using nnproject putty 0.68 for Symbian S60 3rd (backport) and Talkonaut chat client. At this point it feels like I just love push limits of what you can with obsolete legacy and outdated stuff, but it has some good things too. Some of my friends has started use their legacy systems more after I discovered these. All sudden they can things they can do on their new system on older one and it makes them happy. I can tell this is also stuff they don't teach anywhere how get legacy stuff do certain things, it is all trial and error and hours of research but it is rewarding to beat the odds

It doesn't work, I can't run it during formatting

I'd estimate that upwards of 75% of new CSS and Javascript features fall into that category. I wish I could say "unbelievable," but the arrogance of some folks is totally believable. Just go out to your money tree and pluck off some 100 Euro (or whatever your local currency is) notes, and hand them to your local PC dealer. Doesn't everyone have a money tree? And even if you're willing to spend the money, does anyone have any idea how much work goes into making your PC, well, personal? No, they want you to just throw that old PC in the rubbish and start customizing your new PC from scratch - with a new OS version that removes support for much of the personalization that Win 7 lets us do. You will have the Win 10/11 "look" whether you like it or not! Because Micro$oft says so!

I do apologize, I'd love to follow the path jumper has started, and or research rebuilding/test alternative run-times/applications. I don't need Pidgen (prefer IRC/BBS[Mystic]/Hotline/KDX), but I enjoy working this kind of thing out. Access to my.... Retro machines? is limited, and free time is gobbled up. Supposedly, this winter will improve the situation (for awhile). @jumper has again stepped up as an upstanding member of the community. Several members here are quite inspirational to me; and I am glad they so willing help other.

hello!

You are right, I checked again - this time on Windows 98SE. Only http is working with Google on Retrozilla, but Advanced Search and Cookie-dialogs not. Kameleon 9x same results. Both without KernelEx.

I would stick to ntfs if I were you.

No. Windows XP does not support AHCI natively. "AHCI drivers are not native to an off the shelf Windows XP installation CD" https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/locked-topics-desktops-general/sata-ahci-mode-and-windows-xp/647ea706f4ccf8a8de378bee

https://www.startisback.com/#buy-tab - Below the ‘Buy Now’ button, there is a ‘pay directly by card’ section that redirects you to the Gumroad site for the purchase transaction. -> https://startisback.gumroad.com/l/sib1

I've installed StartAllBack on my dads Windows 11 PC. He wants to buy a registration code, but both my dad and I don't have PayPal. Is there another way to pay for the registration code?

no solution?

I did patching and it first resulted illegal process on nss3.dll. So I decided try one from Retrozilla since I knew that version of library sure works on 95. Well it got as far as having tray icon but then it gave these two errors. Interestingly enough I tried it again, only this time I had also irfanview open to save screenshots and it resulted fault and illegal process on it too, but interestingly enough it did not crash. I guess it is since both rely on Microsoft VC6 runtime It might be some runtime you have/do not have that is/is not in my system. What service did you add on pidgin? Jabber/XMPP? Some services are done by plugins and I never tested those. I need look more into this. Pidgin is bit nitpick about GTK runtimes it needs. I used non GTK Pidgin installer and seperate legacy runtime. I mentioned these in earlier post. Thank you both for all help. I was never programmer myself, unless working with industrial machinery code is counted. Also this is stuff nobody teaches you since attitude is just buy new OS. I may not be professional this but I am slowly learning. I am pretty sure I can get this working eventually, but it requires lot of patience, debugging, curse words and time. PSI 0.10 can do Jabber too and native Windows 95 support but it is very buggy and outdated XMPP feature wise compared to Pidgin 2.6.6. under Windows 9x which includes all nice features of newer Pidgin and compliance with multiple XMPP files transfer modes, even text mode fallback if all other fails which makes it more versatile in my use.

Not sure if this will improve the situation or not (maybe you solved it already?), but you could try using other builds of GTK+2. Pidgin does offer a package without GTK. Even if the builds are newer, they may have been built with different build environments and configurations. But, it should be noted that running with a global set of GTK dlls can be irritating (if you need more than one set of Global GTK dll versions). OTOH, building Pidgen and GTK+2 with a different build environment and config could also solve the issue. I think Mingw32 has flags to set the max winver to support during compile (I believe there was two required). I'm guessing an old Mingw32 and Msys would work (still on sourceforge); probably shouldn't need Cgywin's userland). The source documentation may provide a hint. There are times when setting the max winver flags can bork the build, if the code explicitly asks for something. But, GTK is less likely to cause an issue there. And from the looks of this issue, Pidgen probably wouldn't either, or it could be an easy fix. Maybe of interest, this guy tested some different win32 GCC versions, and TDM-GCC may also be an option. You can find userland (msys) included versions of Mingw and TDM-GCC floating around on the net. Its harder to find, but there are fully bundled versions of Cgywin floating around, too (more useful for the usreland). Don't have my old GTK+2 builds around anymore. Kept GTK+1.3 only, it seems. But that doesn't mean someone else's builds couldn't improve the situation. Maybe here or here? You can also check on "mmnt dot ru slash int". Search gtk+ and then within results something like win32.

I'm only seeing IsDebuggerPresent in libglib-2.0-0.dll. I think the others all import from libglib-2.0-0.dll. With ImportPatcher you can patch: IsDebuggerPresent=GetCurrentProcess or IsDebuggerPresent=GetErrorMode I'm seeing (right-click on folder, Find, Containing text) InterlockedCompareExchange in libxml2.dll and nspr4.dll. Try patching with ExitProcess for now. The code will need to be patched. The instability is C Runtime Library errors upon second launch. Hopefully just my system.

Oh ok makes sense!

Curious how to do it. Winntsetup keeps failing when I try.

yes it is, but what good will it do?

@Tripredacus HakkındaI can't do it, master. How can I edit the XML? It doesn't work.

Yes, form the user perspective it does the same thing, it works a little bit different however as it doesn't replace system files and instead injects custom extending files into processes. And is available for Vista and 7, instead of just Vista as the original extended kernel was

There are two things I can think of. You aren't creating a user and setting autologon in the XML, or the file you specified is not present in %WINDIR% at the time. After an install, you can check the setupact.log in the Panther folder and/or in UnattendGC to see if it shows any issues.

pidgin.dll gave error about device not functioning. I decided to do full DLL check comparing 95 and 98SE and here is calls missing from important dll IsDebuggerPresent: program files/common files/gtk folder (gtk legacy runtime) pango-querymodules.exe libpangowin32-1.0-0.dll libpango-1.0-0.dll libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll libgthread-2.0-0.dll libgobject-2.0-0.dll libgmodule-2.0-0.dll libglib-2.0-0.dll libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll slibatk-1.0-0.dll gspawn-win32-helper.exe c:\program files\pidgin folder (install) InterlockedCompareExchange: pidgin.dll libymsg.dll libxml2.dll libpurple.dll liboscar.dll libxml2.dll Interesting. I have ran 2.6.6 on Vanilla Windows 98SE and ME for years without problems. Maybe it is cpu or ram related? I mostly tested it on Pentium 2/3 and K6 based systems. How did stability issue show up? Random bsoding or resource leak? Also I never tried it with less than 256mb ram.