PROBLEMCHYLD Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 BUT specifically, and if I may , there should be a way to add in the installer/whatever *something* that automatically removes anything that needs to be removed prior of the installtion of NUSB it would be a "quantum leap" for a next version....jaclazIf anyone know of a tool to remove all usb devices, I will add it for everyone convenience.Then it won't be a 100 more (Do I Remove All USB DEVICES).
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Updated list from #1423:Filename U98SESP3 Win2000ASYCFILT.DLL 2.40.4530.0 2.40.4534.0msjet40.dll 4.0.9511.0 4.0.9514.0OLEAUT32.DLL 2.40.4520.0 2.40.4532RICHED20.DLL 5.30.23.1230 5.30.23.1231T2EMBED.DLL 5.0.2195.7348 5.0.2195.7349DISPEX.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.16599JSCRIPT.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.8.6001.23259MSADCE.DLL 2.81.1117.0 2.81.3010.0MSADO15.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSADOMD.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSADOX.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSJRO.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0ODBCBCP.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3009.0SCROBJ.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066SCRRUN.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066SQLOLEDB.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3006.0SQLSRV32.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3009.0VBSCRIPT.DLL 5.6.0.8838 5.8.6001.23141WSHCON.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.16599WSHEXT.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066http://www.evernote.com/shard/s144/sh/5b1f1a16-df65-48bb-bd61-a4418ef6afee/bcdfed00f8a08f60be6d06286b2243afWas these files tested? If not, I'm going to have to test each one separately.I have started working on the Windows 2000 Server files set. I can put it on hold for now and wait until you release your package.I know for a fact that some of the Script 5.X files won't work. MDGx had some of the files in his old packages of Script 5.X.From another topic:oleaut32.dll 2.40.4532However, replacing those files is not necessary because they are outdated. Besides, the oleaut32.dll from 2000 crashed my game in 98 and 2000.I'm not a gamer so this one is hard for me to test.
tomasz86 Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 @PROBLEMCHYLDUnfortunately I can't test the files as I haven't got access to Windows 98 SE. I just listed those that *might* (but may not) be compatible.I've also found in SP 3.1 a few newer files than the ones I had here so I want to say thank you
jaclaz Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Something like this:http://retired.beyondlogic.org/dddtools/dddtools.htm(go to the bottom of the page "Device Driver Remover for Windows 95 & Windows 98")only with command line interface, should be what is needed, or, if noone finds it, possibly it can be "automated" via AutoHotKey or similar... Or, maybe something similar to the FTDI CDM uninstaller (BUT Win9x oriented):http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Utilities.htmbut one needs anyway to parse the Registry to get the Vid/Pid...It is very likely that the "Complex UNinstall Method" described here:http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/51417b.pdfcan be automated via batch or similar...jaclaz
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Something like this:http://retired.beyondlogic.org/dddtools/dddtools.htm(go to the bottom of the page "Device Driver Remover for Windows 95 & Windows 98")only with command line interface, should be what is needed, or, if noone finds it, possibly it can be "automated" via AutoHotKey or similar... Or, maybe something similar to the FTDI CDM uninstaller (BUT Win9x oriented):http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Utilities.htmbut one needs anyway to parse the Registry to get the Vid/Pid...It is very likely that the "Complex UNinstall Method" described here:http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/51417b.pdfcan be automated via batch or similar...jaclazGood tools you suggested Do you think its possible for someone to create a batch/vbscript to delete the universal serial bus controllers tree in device manager?
Fredledingue Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 After a short interruption, the website is still accessible. Probably nobody noticed the change and it's good.Problemchyld, look you PM.
mcv93us Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Updated list from #1423:Filename U98SESP3 Win2000ASYCFILT.DLL 2.40.4530.0 2.40.4534.0msjet40.dll 4.0.9511.0 4.0.9514.0OLEAUT32.DLL 2.40.4520.0 2.40.4532RICHED20.DLL 5.30.23.1230 5.30.23.1231T2EMBED.DLL 5.0.2195.7348 5.0.2195.7349DISPEX.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.16599JSCRIPT.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.8.6001.23259MSADCE.DLL 2.81.1117.0 2.81.3010.0MSADO15.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSADOMD.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSADOX.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0MSJRO.DLL 2.81.1128.0 2.81.1145.0ODBCBCP.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3009.0SCROBJ.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066SCRRUN.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066SQLOLEDB.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3006.0SQLSRV32.DLL 2000.85.1128.0 2000.85.3009.0VBSCRIPT.DLL 5.6.0.8838 5.8.6001.23141WSHCON.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.16599WSHEXT.DLL 5.7.0.16535 5.7.0.18066http://www.evernote.com/shard/s144/sh/5b1f1a16-df65-48bb-bd61-a4418ef6afee/bcdfed00f8a08f60be6d06286b2243afWas these files tested? If not, I'm going to have to test each one separately.I have started working on the Windows 2000 Server files set. I can put it on hold for now and wait until you release your package.I know for a fact that some of the Script 5.X files won't work. MDGx had some of the files in his old packages of Script 5.X.Ok, I tested all the files in the list!These do not work on my PC:JSCRIPT.DLL 5.8.6001.23259SCROBJ.DLL 5.7.0.18066SCRRUN.DLL 5.7.0.18066WSHEXT.DLL 5.7.0.18066The others have not given me any problems.Other beta-tester???Bye,Mcv'93
Drugwash Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 An USB driver remover could be custom built, specifically for Win9x, but I'm afraid it could also be used for malicious purposes. Although at most it would just remove all USB drivers, this could be a major inconvenience for people that don't have a copy of the driver kit, those that don't have the knowledge to (re)install them or when device driver installation requires a certain procedure that is not known to the user. Besides, such tool should also account for any connected devices, check if there's any running or pending file operation involving such device, ask the user to stop such operation(s) and then physically remove the device(s). After all this, there may still be devices whose specific applications come bundled with the drivers so the tool should warn that some applications may have to be manually uninstalled and reinstalled.As you see, it may not be such an easy task to build a reliable tool. Just plain deleting some registry keys - as risky as it is by itself - and some .inf files would not be enough. It's been quite a while since I've been planning to build such thing but always got sidetracked by so many other things. Dunno if I ever get to do it, at least not very soon.
rloew Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) An USB driver remover could be custom built, specifically for Win9x, but I'm afraid it could also be used for malicious purposes. Although at most it would just remove all USB drivers, this could be a major inconvenience for people that don't have a copy of the driver kit, those that don't have the knowledge to (re)install them or when device driver installation requires a certain procedure that is not known to the user. Besides, such tool should also account for any connected devices, check if there's any running or pending file operation involving such device, ask the user to stop such operation(s) and then physically remove the device(s). After all this, there may still be devices whose specific applications come bundled with the drivers so the tool should warn that some applications may have to be manually uninstalled and reinstalled.As you see, it may not be such an easy task to build a reliable tool. Just plain deleting some registry keys - as risky as it is by itself - and some .inf files would not be enough. It's been quite a while since I've been planning to build such thing but always got sidetracked by so many other things. Dunno if I ever get to do it, at least not very soon.In this case the Drivers need to be cleared from the Registry. The Driver Files and INF Files do not need to be removed, except those being directly replaced by NUSB.The Drivers should be rediscovered. I already have a REG File that can clear ALL Drivers, but not one that is USB specific. It comes in handy when porting to a new machine.Some .INF Files may ask for Disks over again but they can be skipped or read from the System and Driver Folders. WARNING! do not try this on an NT, XP or later system as the Driver Files will be truncated. Edited June 9, 2012 by rloew
Drugwash Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Depending on the settings in the SP3 package, some existing files may have to be removed prior to installing those in the package. I'm referring here to driver files with version numbers higher than the ones in the service pack, which may not be downgraded at install time and whose presence could be the real root of the problems in certain situations (such as the Intel/VIA drivers discussed somewhere above).Nevertheless, there must be a safe procedure to remove those USB drivers only in certain conditions, as we don't want anybody to inadvertently clean up their registry and then come back here with guns loaded - figurately speaking, of course.
huguia Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 By installing this, does it includes Windows Update files? Or can I install this and later the things I have downloaded from windows update?
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Service Pack installs everything except for these updatesDirectX 9Internet ExplorerNET FrameworkWindows Image Acquisition 1.1 (WIA)Windows Media Player (WMP) Edited June 11, 2012 by PROBLEMCHYLD
Fredledingue Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Huguia,U98SESP3.EXE contains most, if not all the W98SE updates that we know of.Theoricaly you shouldn't download or install anything else, unless what is specificaly mentioned in the "change log":Updates that won't be addedDirectX 9Internet ExplorerNET FrameworkWindows Image Acquisition 1.1 (WIA)Windows Media Player (WMP)Please read carefuly:The u98sesp web pageandWindows 98SE Updates & Unofficial Service PacksHTH
submix8c Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 By installing this, does it includes Windows Update files? Or can I install this and later the things I have downloaded from windows update?If you mean actually USING "Windows Update" you are dreaming a long-dead fantasy. See this. Windows Update for Win9x/WinME (and AFAIK) Windows 2000 and older is long-gone. Your only option is here on MSFN and the links therein.
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