modnar Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Another thing - as experiment I enabled the memory.free_dirty_pages . Would this be like the memory_saver option in Supermium/Chrome?
AstroSkipper Posted May 14 Posted May 14 35 minutes ago, modnar said: Another thing - as experiment I enabled the memory.free_dirty_pages . Would this be like the memory_saver option in Supermium/Chrome? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850607 1
VistaLover Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) On 5/14/2026 at 11:58 PM, modnar said: as experiment I enabled the memory.free_dirty_pages . Would this be like the memory_saver option in Supermium/Chrome? No : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=23281 PS: I realise people on old/weak H/W (like myself ), in an attempt to squeeze more out of the browser, often turn to "about:config" for custom modifications of one or more "advanced" prefs (in the expectation they can potentially make their "old" box behave like a "recent" one ) ; besides the fact these "about:config" prefs are primarily directed at devs (and should not be tinkered by plain users), they are often poorly documented now (because MDN have a nasty habit of removing old documentation), so one can't be 100% sure what the actual/future ramifications of such a change will be; often times, it's just a placebo effect, at best ("I" manually modified the default value, so it "must" have improved performance); in the past, I used to do that myself a lot, but over the years I ended up with the conviction that leaving prefs at their default settings (configured by Mozilla devs) is probably the best policy ; but this is just me... Edited May 15 by VistaLover 4
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 15 Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, VistaLover said: it's just a placebo effect, at best ("I" manually modified the default value, so it "should" have improved performance); in the past, I used to do that myself a lot, but over the years I ended up with the conviction that leaving prefs at their default settings (configured by Mozilla devs) is probably the best policy AGREED !!!
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I would add that OFTEN TIMES, those placebo-effect changes also make the browser LESS compatible than it already was. ie, we know that SOME TIMES the reason a captcha can't be passed is BECAUSE OF these types of placebo-effect changes. I know I should LINK to one of those discussions where one of these had to be REVERTED in order to pass a captcha, I just don't have the energy to hunt one down at the moment. 1
modnar Posted May 15 Posted May 15 18 hours ago, AstroSkipper said: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850607 21 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: I would add that OFTEN TIMES, those placebo-effect changes also make the browser LESS compatible than it already was. .. Thank you both kindly for the explanation.
roytam1 Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260516-3219d2d-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260516-3219d2d-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260516-3219d2d-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #3079 followup - set glx as OpenGL backend default until egl bugs can be investigated (ffb37922a1) - Issue #3030 - Block auth prompt if there is a sync XHR active. (f0a31850de) - Issue #3030 - Account for custom elements in attribute value checking. (8d7580c4ce) - Issue #3030 - Prevent unnecessary event allocation. (4e37362c89) - Issue #3030 - Improve image cache entry handling. (335ddc41b9) - [DOM] Add nullcheck on document for requestSubmit (e42e505d86) - [DOM] Add nullcheck on thumb dragging event ranges. (1072186705) - [js] Increase RecoverOffset size (64-bit) (947e147291) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - dom/html: remove my hackfix in HTMLInputElement::StartRangeThumbDrag() (80c31f4b01) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. 5
roytam1 Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260516-40a79c75-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260516-40a79c75-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260516-id-656ea98-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260516-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild 2
roytam1 Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260516-fa0b18e54-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260516-fa0b18e54-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #3079 followup - set glx as OpenGL backend default until egl bugs can be investigated (ffb37922) (413937587) - import from UXP: Issue #3030 - Block auth prompt if there is a sync XHR active. (f0a31850) (ebed5a403) - import from UXP: Issue #3030 - Account for custom elements in attribute value checking. (8d7580c4) (46fa73d25) - import from UXP: Issue #3030 - Prevent unnecessary event allocation. (4e37362c) (24a796ea8) - import from UXP: Issue #3030 - Improve image cache entry handling. (335ddc41) (b0066908e) - ported from UXP: [DOM] Add nullcheck on document for requestSubmit (e42e505d) (8f657e582) - ported from UXP: [DOM] Add nullcheck on thumb dragging event ranges. (10721867) (9495139c0) - import from UXP: [js] Increase RecoverOffset size (64-bit) (947e1472) (fa0b18e54) 1
VistaLover Posted May 16 Posted May 16 19 hours ago, roytam1 said: NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260516-d849524bd-uxp-80c31f4b01-xpmod.7z ... The time is now Sat May 16th 2026, 18:00 GMT and I'm experiencing severely throttled download speeds : Is this something on my end or server-side? My current IP is 46.12.xx.xxx ...
nicolaasjan Posted May 16 Posted May 16 15 minutes ago, VistaLover said: ... The time is now Sat May 16th 2026, 18:00 GMT and I'm experiencing severely throttled download speeds : 10.6MB/s here (max).
modnar Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, VistaLover said: ... The time is now Sat May 16th 2026, 18:00 GMT and I'm experiencing severely throttled download speeds : It went fast here (~7.0MB/s).
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 16 Posted May 16 You guys must have *VERY* slow internet connections! The download is *SO FAST* here that it is *done downloading* in a split second, I delete the download to try to catch it again, and I simply cannot catch the speed, the download is *done* before I can even move my eyes to the display of download speed.
Ben Markson Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I agree with @NotHereToPlayGames mine topped out at 188.26Mb/s (as recorded by Netmeter 1.1.4). This is using a 4G/5G mobile router where my best speed is around 250Mb/s. Ben.
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Not to brag, lol, and this is the SLOWEST plan that my fiber optic ISP provides, and it is CHEAPER than the cable plan I used to be on. Fiber optic is less than a year old in my town, cable company was a MONOPOLY that I'm glad to no longer be a customer of. 500 Mbps and that's with my standard four video streams playing in the background.
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