XP32 MB died, what to replace it?

[Feamane]

Hi,

My ASrock 4coredual-sata2 r2.0 died.  So I  need a replacement motherboard for my XP32 retro gaming rig.  It seems the 4coredual-sata is no longer to be found on eBay.  I'd like to replace the MB without having to ditch too much of the other hardware.

But if I can't find an exact replacement I might as well do a bit of upgrading.  4GB of RAM instead of 2GB would be nice (and I already have the extra DIMMs).  And I'm thinking that AGP would really limit my options, so being willing to switch to a PCIe video card might make this much easier.

So the requirements...

OS: XP32 SP4

Form factor:  Full ATX

CPU:  Pentium Dual-Core E6800 [3330MHz] LGA775 (1066MHz)

RAM: 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 

Slots: PCIe, >=3xPCI

I/O:  SATA/300 3Gb/s & EIDE 

Anybody have any suggestions for motherboards that are known to work well with XP32 and can still be easily found?

And what would be a good companion video card (preferably GeForce)?

Thanks,

DJ

[ED_Sln]

Any motherboard on 775 socket, starting with 965 chipset and up to the newest ones, will suit your requirements. Do not choose nForce, SIS, VIA, the performance of these chipsets is lower than that of Intel. For example ASUS P5Q SE2. You can also take a motherboard with DDR-3, this memory is now cheaper than DDR-2.

About the video card - it depends on the games, some old games do not detect new video cards and therefore there may be problems. So write a list of games, then you can search if they have problems. But if you take the compatibility of motherboard, video card and OS, then any card will do, even 950/960, depending on the price.

 

[Saxon]

Preferably choose 1333 FSB board, or even 1600 FSB, as of 1066 is obviously much slower.

[Dixel]

14 hours ago, Feamane said:

And what would be a good companion video card (preferably GeForce)?

For XP anything higher than Kepler makes no sense, Get something like GTX680, they are very cheap now. About 30 Euro. 

Or GTX780 for 50 Euro, Titan for 70.

[j7n]

Before choosing a big video card, consider the power consumption, if your PSU is big enough, if the card will fit in the case next to hard drives, and if the fans will make too much noise. Maxwell 2 added decoding of h.265 video, which has become common, and very CPU hungry.

If these cards really cost 50 euros in your part of the world now, it's amazing how much value they've lost within a few years, and how bad an investment they've proven to be. We live in a disposable world.

[Dixel]

4 hours ago, j7n said:

If these cards really cost 50 euros in your part of the world now, it's amazing how much value they've lost within a few years, and how bad an investment they've proven to be. We live in a disposable world.

How much do you think would be a fair price for e-waste? GTX 680 is 12 years old, Titan is almost 12! Unfortunately electronic components degrade, capacitors dry out, etc. It's electronic waste now.

The OP needs to check them carefully before buying, Lots of them could've been repaired several times to this date.

P.S.

And where you live, do they cost more?

Edited December 9, 2023 by Dixel
P.S.

[Dixel]

3 hours ago, j7n said:

Maxwell 2 added decoding of h.265 video, which has become common, and very CPU hungry.

That's because Maxwell has only partial/hybrid HEVC decode. And from what I tried, it fully works for 8bit HEVC only.

[user57]

most things have been said

maybe search words "socket 775" and "sata" on an shop

your cpu might be underclocked the term "DDR2-800" means 800 mhz FSB
FSB is the speed to the RAM

your CPU says it works with 1066 mhz (your ram use only 800 mhz of this)
there are also DDR2 rams with 1066 mhz, useing DDR2-1066 mhz might be a idea

as said DDR3 ram is useally cheaper now then DDR2

since socket 775 is kinda old i think all of that motherboards actually work with xp
just look the motherboard description / or look what the driver(s) that are given support as motherboard drivers

they useally have a list "win10/winxp/win7/winvista

socket 775 is a intel cpu socket

there like many cheap 4core/4 thread cpus for cheap prices (your cpu is a 2 core/2 thread)
just to make an example here is a 
Intel Core 2 Quad - v Q6700
for only 6 €
https://www.ebay.de/itm/276146665900?hash=item404b9fb9ac:g:7XYAAOSwUQllRsuk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8D4emZzQFyg7ESoT4jkFIfMFtXZJBVQIXhF%2BXWjHPjTYD1TCBn4JwKfLg1usJAvF3JYsFSy7wyt1LECip2qzdRsi8gxtCk10q50KZKs%2Fx%2BcZPYgxNEKB39MDQUnZfGkr7LQCaey2c95xTgAWPuVEzIO0Itxx4Sb54760rxHFogZHjUU56mh4iZA0W98dY3PTOBFn5kOe219DLz32FZFdE46hzh8eVcpl0wXWPUQt4j1R8s3m6L38PxRWiA49IBkg1ok%2BOJAfTWk17IhzxUu%2F5wE77Tozlgybvwr5XB%2BT9zx0RdVq4uLTPTxCwA9imwczxA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-KBt5SKYw

list with 4 core - socket 775 cpu´s:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Intel-Core-Prozessoren#Core_2_Quad

 

 

RAM:

"DDR2-1066 PC2-8500" 20 € for 4 GB RAM

https://www.ebay.de/itm/116000436163?epid=113317048&hash=item1b022a2fc3:g:Z~oAAOSwIF9lbllM&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwIfSpqcPpBK2Nx4X9I5rtBqAjHL6guqCKQ8LuyWVdJWm43SnYoiYNpMtYUzIyM%2BIbboikCtj2rEvjYee4%2FWR6qLxLRStIaig2dhaFAN7ML7p0MJcGKkJYh7q7lTSJSsNWFeiK8g95etTe5tfrpc%2B%2BURK8XJBmEqI2NcEV1Ekrp9PbF7I6hFV2sLj5ygWz29i8zr%2FR%2F91z7pz%2BqDim0EatMh34FmfujqyRh9sRe9STrjooVYrEh0geGUfkwa8k09Jdg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_Tn65SKYw

7 € (but need 4 slots - some boards only have 2)

https://www.ebay.de/itm/115984941065?hash=item1b013dc009:g:LtEAAOSwxI1lXM10&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4HZKG2TS64bjlKH0w8RMhWA1AXE5iqSLmHZmpWoYC82D%2B288ObEDsvNzEI0DJ%2F6kwECccmjiljypvy0lY5xde%2F6bfrxEodV0mS7xUPz8LRSWaVZt6gwTUZf7GstpF9qWlBR4Fn%2B8QP9ZXsY%2FvdTRk3hGb4%2FE4GX48Ct1kKRj8QMjxt8P7LV6ZgBTh2hca44Zpjx4oXTlyzeyf8EEjvM517rvvXpQz9AL4JvMFxhRvlRm6Jm5KZXdNgDBWv3VeIusVa5pBTilfGaG0NFUZxJR%2BstrvEz01uC6mRWkgGbMTqhF%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7jKu5WKYw

DDR3 is 9 € for 4 GB ram

https://www.ebay.de/itm/362559898619?hash=item546a4103fb%3Ag%3AoBMAAOSwby9gC15q&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4LY3lKP0w0WooietvXE%2BOht58Xt0DNnW9GkZvNS0e2WUfOEL6kDGUQftKOholDnoiqKkrWwZw0OnZkY523mWXLS3gmfru6J%2F%2BfimURg0lvormJuPEHx55R4zQ8rV%2FKZs0plJ69BKhTsommBD7%2BHq3Dv0gK8plTjB0IdaWaPDRa9R7dCACSDByiyfb6nEtUEJLUO%2Fx0KkvvLyegpYrHkfi0%2B8mCIkRy8NkfMLMKe5tWA4cD2Dg5tWgViZ2e%2Fko7ovC%2BHiE9VPtaCY86KPQ5to%2BxROaFVKxE8bbLlnZlghB5nI%7Ctkp%3ABFBMwK2RlYpj&LH_BIN=1

useally it is also possible to underclock the RAM like 1333 mhz ram useally can run at 1066 mhz (that sometimes can have problems but you better be certain to get the intel before)

 

grafic card:

nvidia grafic card hard to say but look that a driver for windows xp is available
that is done here:
https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx

the second thing you have to look at is what slot your motherboard has (AGP/PCIE - some have only AGP some only PCIe , some even have AGP and PCIe)

[Feamane]

Thanks for all the info everyone!

DJ

[Saxon]

On 12/10/2023 at 3:03 AM, user57 said:

Intel Core 2 Quad - v Q6700
for only 6 €

Need to choose a very good, sturdy power supply for that 105W thing. A very good cooler, too! A copper one.

[Dibya]

I would say grab a 3rd Gen i5 and H67 Mobo, Super cheap with 8GB of DDR3 RAM ,

that PC will get a huge performance boost

their some good option

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=i5+3570&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=h67+motherboard&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=b75+motherboard&_osacat=0

 

If you have extra budget , go with I7 4790 & B85 Chipset

Put a GTX750  as companion and call it a day

Edited December 15, 2023 by Dibya

[user57]

On 12/14/2023 at 2:42 PM, Saxon said:

Need to choose a very good, sturdy power supply for that 105W thing. A very good cooler, too! A copper one.

Zalmann copper coolers they are pretty good 
"CNPS9000" 
"CNPS9500" 
"CNPS9700" 
"ZF1125BTH"
"CNPS10X"

maybe the "zalman ZM-CS1" but for this one you may look if that one fits to the MB

others: 
"ACV Napoleon Socket 775"
"Deepcool LGA 775" 
"Arctic Freezer 13 Co - socket 775"
"Sunbeam Core-Contact Freezer LGA 775"
" COOLER MASTER Hyper TX2 LGA 775"
"Arctic Cooling AC Freezer 7 LGA 775"

the "Zalman CNPS9900" i do not recommend, the 9900 is not copper

Edited December 22, 2023 by user57

[D.Draker]

On 12/9/2023 at 7:18 PM, j7n said:

Before choosing a big video card, consider the power consumption, if your PSU is big enough, if the card will fit in the case next to hard drives, and if the fans will make too much noise. Maxwell 2 added decoding of h.265 video, which has become common, and very CPU hungry.

If these cards really cost 50 euros in your part of the world now, it's amazing how much value they've lost within a few years, and how bad an investment they've proven to be. We live in a disposable world.

"Do you realise these Polaris/Maxwell GPUs are at least two point two times slower than the slowest next-gen GPUs? Do you realise they have never been 1080p60Ultra go to options, even when released? Do you realise they are so aged it's only possible to sell them if your barter skill is over 70 points or your price is below $50? They lost their value and they have never been more valuable than current gen GPUs, especially $500ish ones (4070 and 7800 XT)."

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/goto/post?id=5166755

[j7n]

Not that long ago I paid 50 for a GTX 750. I think people value their property slightly more here, and they have to pay €1-3 to post an advertisement. Since there are no XP-drivers for next-gen video adapters, they can't be used regardless how fast they might be.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

7 minutes ago, j7n said:

I think people value their property slightly more here

<OT>

Your comment made me curious, lol.

https://sensoneo.com/global-waste-index/