MyPal 68

[dmiranda]

I have silverlight installed and working in SP52. Mypal doesn't pick it up. Can I manually add a plugin in mypal?

[grey_rat]

For any extensions Firefox 69+, create

extensions.checkCompatibility.nightly false
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity false

 

For plugins, create

plugin.load_flash_only false

The browser only looks for application/x-shockwave-flash , it is necessary to correct the plugin and script, example https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xv8i6fbojvbxlqd/vmp.JPG

or wait for a new version of MyPal with a fixed NPAPI

 

if ublock crashes, old version 1.16.20 https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/1056733/ublock_origin-1.16.20-an+fx.xpi

Edited April 13, 2022 by grey_rat

[dmiranda]

ABOUT:CONFIG stuff

User.js functionality is broken.

First batch of odd keys:

Unlike FF52 and derivatives, network.proxy.socks_remote_dns is set to false by default. I wonder why.

Unlike FF52 and derivatives, browser.eme.ui.enabled is set to false by default -would this interfere with silberlight?

The key dom.workers.enabled is missing

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Don't forget that this is just a very early Beta.

I don't think Feodor2 is expecting anybody to actually be "using" this yet.

[grey_rat]

silverlight - this NPAPI plugin https://support.mozilla.org/gl/questions/1176670

[genieautravail]

Hello,

I'm testing Mypal 68.12.1 on a old (2010) HP laptop 8540p.

Every few minutes the browser crash with a BSOD:

win32k.sys address BF80FA77 base at BF8000000

The crash occur with or without hardware acceleration enable in the settings.

Any idea about this issue ? 

[Skorpios]

Well, you have a brand new computer compared to mine... I'm running Mp68 on a Thinkpad A31 from 2002 and Feodors beta is already running almost as smooth as AF360_11.
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Try to run it as a single process:

about:config > browser.tabs.remote.autostart > false.

"Windows XP
Due to stability issues Windows XP is currently not leveraging e10s on release channel. XP and Vista will move out to Extended Support Release (ESR) 45 when 45 merges to release (bug 1303827). As such there are no plans to support e10s for XP/Vista in the future."
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Windows_XP

OR

play around with dom.ipc.processCount. Default value is 8, try 0, 1 or 2.

It's a good idea to have a look at "Issues" once a day. I found the above there.
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues

[UCyborg]

On 4/11/2022 at 2:43 AM, roytam1 said:

I think you hit a function that uses newer instruction sets than your processor supported (maybe SSE3/SSSE3/SSE4[A/.1.2]/AVX/etc.)

Or just memory corruption due to something not being done right, no way Firefox 68 uses instructions my Phenom II doesn't support.

Funny, I get these popups of Windows Error Reporting about browser crashing or Application Error, but if I ignore them, I can keep browsing.

 

[UCyborg]

On 4/11/2022 at 12:32 PM, grey_rat said:

Hardware acceleration Direct3D9 is on the way. But you can enable OpenGL H/A layers.prefer-opengl

I vote for fixing UI issues with OpenGL first. Direct3D is just retarded on Windows XP. With OpenGL, I can have browser windows on any monitor without lag even if that monitor isn't "primary" (unlike the behavior with D3D, it's a general issue/limitation that isn't application specific). And in New Moon / Serpent, enabling OpenGL pref just crashes it, though this the case also in upstream versions.

FWIW, OpenGL working right cross-monitor might as well be NVIDIA workaround for XP (no experience with ATI cards in that regard), but if it works, it works.

WebGL performance could also be improved, I only saw it work right in some old K-Meleon (Goanna based) build from 2020, which was broken later to be as p*** poor as in New Moon / Serpent...at least KM was still like that in 2021 last time I checked...of course these issues are XP only, same XP centric browsers performance is OK on NT 6.x+.

Edited April 15, 2022 by UCyborg

[genieautravail]

11 hours ago, Skorpios said:

Well, you have a brand new computer compared to mine... I'm running Mp68 on a Thinkpad A31 from 2002 and Feodors beta is already running almost as smooth as AF360_11.
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Try to run it as a single process:

about:config > browser.tabs.remote.autostart > false.

"Windows XP
Due to stability issues Windows XP is currently not leveraging e10s on release channel. XP and Vista will move out to Extended Support Release (ESR) 45 when 45 merges to release (bug 1303827). As such there are no plans to support e10s for XP/Vista in the future."
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Windows_XP

OR

play around with dom.ipc.processCount. Default value is 8, try 0, 1 or 2.

It's a good idea to have a look at "Issues" once a day. I found the above there.
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues

Many thanks for the trick, no more BSOD!

[UCyborg]

On 4/13/2022 at 10:35 AM, dmiranda said:

SP52 ADDONS THAT SEEM TO WORK in MYPAL

How? I just get an error about extension being corrupted.

userChromeJS doesn't work neither.

Edited April 15, 2022 by UCyborg

[NotHereToPlayGames]

16 hours ago, UCyborg said:

I vote for fixing UI issues with OpenGL first.  With OpenGL, I can have browser windows on any monitor without lag even if that monitor isn't "primary" (unlike the behavior with D3D, it's a general issue/limitation that isn't application specific). And in New Moon / Serpent, enabling OpenGL pref just crashes it, though this the case also in upstream versions.

Agreed!  My primary computer has five monitors but because of DVI vs HDMI vs VGA vs USB, the "primary" monitor has to be the VGA but it's the one of the five that barely gets looked at.

[grey_rat]

WebGL and WebGL2 only works with OpenGL

webgl.force-enabled true , webgl.disable-angle true

 

For one process - browser.tabs.remote.autostart  false and dom.ipc.processCount 0

 

H/A OpenGL will not fix, Feodor2 (aka zzz528) will try to return Direct 3D9 H/A http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5894&start=0

 

Edited April 15, 2022 by grey_rat

[tyukok]

You know how you could use palemoon-based Mypal on Windows 2000 with KernelEX?

Well, it turns out you can use Mypal 68 on Windows 2000 too, after some modifications: http://mrqash.blogspot.com/2022/04/mypal-68-firefox-68121-on-windows-2000.html

And by the way, we got a fresh release just now!

[UCyborg]

18 hours ago, grey_rat said:

WebGL and WebGL2 only works with OpenGL

webgl.force-enabled true , webgl.disable-angle true

Yup, even on a browser with ANGLE, you can't get all WebGL features due to D3D9 limitations.

18 hours ago, grey_rat said:

For one process - browser.tabs.remote.autostart  false and dom.ipc.processCount 0

Does the second one do anything if the first one is false?

I have better stability with multi-process mode, leaving YouTube in the background tends to freeze and crash the entire browser then.

18 hours ago, grey_rat said:

H/A OpenGL will not fix, Feodor2 (aka zzz528) will try to return Direct 3D9 H/A http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5894&start=0

Oh well, OpenGL as it is now is quite something, can have smooth HTML5 video (no frame drops with 1920x1080 @ 60 FPS VP9 codec). Issues I noticed:

• window contents shifted up, the same issue also have effect on various modal dialogs,
• the auto-scrolling icon disappearing and rendering popup dialogs by clicking buttons of various extensions is glitchy, blinky, reminds of z-fighting issues in some games,
• browser doesn't survive going to standby mode, when I get out, its window stops refreshing.

I have a feeling OpenGL won't fare as it does now in potential future versions based on later Firefox versions due to their overhauling of compositing components.

Some people are talking of BSODs related to Mypal, I got zero those, though I did max the RAM to about 3,9 GB out of 4 GB available, about 460 MB of data ended up in the page file. feodor2 also mentioned his XP glitching when using Minimize memory usage button on about:memory page, doesn't happen here neither. I do however use the ultimate version of XP, aka Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, coupled with stable drivers.

Edited April 16, 2022 by UCyborg