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I have custom resolutions in the last iCafe driver, but I have never seen the scaling page in the control panel under WinXP. It is there under Win2008, but not under any driver I have tried in Win2003. What do you mean by "a PC resolution"?

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22 hours ago, j7n said:

I have custom resolutions in the last iCafe driver, but I have never seen the scaling page in the control panel under WinXP. It is there under Win2008, but not under any driver I have tried in Win2003. What do you mean by "a PC resolution"?

In the linked post at vogons.org Falcosoft added screenshots to illustrate things.

In that quoted bit, I am also wondering what Falcosoft meant with the term "PC resolution", I don't know...

 

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I guess that the instructions may apply only to digital output. With VGA, custom resolutions work, and the scaling options do not show regardless of the currently selected resolution.

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Whats issue with this GPU? I’m using in inside Dell Optiplex 780. I have this one,

GIGABYTE GeForce GT 710 2GB And I’m running in only under XP. I have installed drivers using SDI automatically during setup.

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Hi,

I am also having issues with my ASUS GT 710 2GB GDDR5 version on Windows XP Pro X86. Whatever driver i install is causing freeze with 3dMark2001SE and with some games. Also I get BSOD time to time. in windows event viewer, it shows error something "nv4_disp infinite loop"

these are the errors i receive when freeze/crash happens: https://imgur.com/a/rbYPWpw

My setup is Lenovo ThinkCentre A57 - core2duo E8400, 4gb ddr2.

apparently GT 710 is not supported by drivers earlier than v361.75 (Jan 27,2016) because GT 710 is released in 2016. (https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us#)

and drivers later than that versions causing freeze issue.

tbh i dont want to edit .inf file to install the driver which is not officially supported. Any other idea how to fix this issue? or any later driver working fine except v344.75 ?

thanks.

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16 hours ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

I am also having issues with my ASUS GT 710 2GB GDDR5 version on Windows XP Pro X86.

What is the Device ID of the video card? You can look it up in Device Manager or GPU-Z. The regular 710 was released in 2014 and there is a driver for it starting from 340.46, to the latest 368.81.

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On 3/20/2024 at 7:23 PM, MinimumAttic410 said:

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tbh i dont want to edit .inf file to install the driver which is not officially supported. Any other idea how to fix this issue? or any later driver working fine except v344.75 ?

thanks.

Just try the 368.81 and edit the .inf just becuase nv decided that they would bump up the version in the last few XP drivers to 10.18.13.6881. Now that causes problems (no hw page acceleration) with Firefox and other browsers derived from it, like RT's Serpent 52.9. Correct the version to 6.14.13.6881 that is standard for XP (the 6.14 part - it's found in ATi drivers too) and all works as it should. DVI support in control panel seems bugged up though (less resolutions than VGA and the screen is identified as TV) but driver is stable (better than AdiosMyDineros' 14.4 driver I used with my HD7850).

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On 3/21/2024 at 1:43 PM, ED_Sln said:

What is the Device ID of the video card? You can look it up in Device Manager or GPU-Z. The regular 710 was released in 2014 and there is a driver for it starting from 340.46, to the latest 368.81.

Device ID on device manager is "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_128B&SUBSYS_85E71043&REV_A1\4&2E5EAC9&0&0008"

(weird, GPU-Z shows release date as 2014)

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as i said earlier unfortunately working driver for my gt 710 starting from version v361.75 (Jan 27,2016) to 361.81, non of the earlier version worked for this card  - i tried already. and all the versions from 361.75 to 361.81 having freeze issue with 3DMark2001SE and games. Not always at 1st or 2nd tests but eventually they caused freeze issue (with the error i mentioned in my earlier post) at later tests. I tested all drivers one by one.

 

19 hours ago, modnar said:

Just try the 368.81 and edit the .inf just becuase nv decided that they would bump up the version in the last few XP drivers to 10.18.13.6881. Now that causes problems (no hw page acceleration) with Firefox and other browsers derived from it, like RT's Serpent 52.9. Correct the version to 6.14.13.6881 that is standard for XP (the 6.14 part - it's found in ATi drivers too) and all works as it should. DVI support in control panel seems bugged up though (less resolutions than VGA and the screen is identified as TV) but driver is stable (better than AdiosMyDineros' 14.4 driver I used with my HD7850).

I edited nvaci.inf version to 6.14.13.6881 from 10.18.13.6881 but it still shows v10.18.13.6881 in windows device manager, is it normal?

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EDIT: I just ran 3dmark2001se, and unfortunately as soon as I pressed benchmark button it freezed --> with driver 368.81 edited version ID to 6.14.13.6881

NOTE: I have been using v344.75 natively with my GT730 (ASUS 2GB GDDR5 Low-profile) and v344.75 is very stable, ranking 49000 something (almost 50000) at 3dmark2001se on XP.

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I just installed driver v344.75 by adding device id into nvaci.inf file, installation went well and seems driver working. it scored 38518 on 3dmark2001se (i was expecting around 40k). But card appears as GT555M  not GT 710 in device manager and GPU-Z :

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EDIT: ok had to add these 2 lines in "nvaci.info"  for correct device id : 

[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTx86.5.1,NTx86.6.0

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTx86.5.1]
%NVIDIA_DEV.128B% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_128B&SUBSYS_85E71043&REV_A1 	<--

...
...
...

[Strings]
DiskID1 = "NVIDIA Windows XP (32 bit) Driver Library Installation Disk 1"
NVIDIA = "NVIDIA"
NVIDIA_DEV.128B = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 710	<--

But I realized that, after editing .inf file and installing v344.75, GPU-Z now shows OpenGL version 4.4, it was 4.5 earlier. and in new GPU-Z some features missing such as: Why?

Computing line : OpenCL , CUDA

Technology line: PysX

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Question: is it safe to edit .inf file to add unofficial support to officially-not-supported driver for this card? (asking for hw-pc health, not for nvidia)

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1 hour ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

But I realized that, after editing .inf file and installing v344.75, GPU-Z now shows OpenGL version 4.4, it was 4.5 earlier. and in new GPU-Z some features missing such as:

Computing line : OpenCL , CUDA

Technology line: PysX

The older driver probably just doesn't have GL version 4.5 yet. OpenCL and CUDA were disabled on lower-end graphics cards until some driver version, because their performance is not enough to be useful. PhysX needs to be reinstalled, and I also noticed that in XP GPU-Z doesn't always detect its presence correctly. Also try replacing in inf not the first ID you get, but from another 710, maybe that also affects what will be installed.

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6 hours ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

But card appears as GT555M  not GT 710 in device manager and GPU-Z :

I'm not surprised. It means you got a re-issued 555 disguised as 710. I once bought a card that was named "GTS250", in fact it turned out to be a bit overclocked older model 9800GTX.

Nothing to worry about. Those are of similar performance level.

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5 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

PhysX needs to be reinstalled

On some driver bundles it's simply not detected correctly by GPU-Z. But if the programme folder is present in the right location, the software will work.

ProgramFiles/NVIDIA Corporation/Physx (for 32 bit OS).

ProgramFiles (x86)/NVIDIA Corporation/Physx (for 64 bit OS).

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@MinimumAttic410: The first (most important file) is nv4_dispi.inf, but there are 45 of them (to cover all use cases).

Here is the .7z package of all of 368.81 inf's (just copy them into your upacked driver directory: Display.Driver) with version changed from 10.18.13.6881 to 6.14.13.6881 (only version has been changed, nothing else).

368-81_xp-last_v6-14.7z

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5 hours ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

I just installed driver v344.75 by adding device id into nvaci.inf file, installation went well and seems driver working. it scored 38518 on 3dmark2001se

Interesting: i in contrary did expand the nvhdci.inf because there i found an existing 710 entry, just copied it and replaced the appropriate device-id. Worked nicely!

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