Extreme Explorer 360 Chromium 78-86 General Discussion

[NotHereToPlayGames]

They were not blacklisting "older browsers" or faking a Chromium v77 would have not worked.

They were, seemingly, blacklisting v86 and nothing more than that.

Of course, I'm not about to try a hundred different user agents just to find out "exactly" what they are doing, lol.

[Dixel]

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

They were not blacklisting "older browsers" or faking a Chromium v77 would have not worked.

They were, seemingly, blacklisting v86 and nothing more than that.

Of course, I'm not about to try a hundred different user agents just to find out "exactly" what they are doing, lol.

Of course it would load on v.77 under Windows 10, the OS you've been running for a couple of years instead of XP.

 

[Dixel]

7 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Wrong.  Their is no Client Hints in 360Chrome v13.5.  And Win10 doesn't change that fact.

At least, not in my releases.  Do not recall if they existed "upstream".

I wouldn't rely only on one site to test that "feature". Client Hints have been main stream since as early as January 2020.

Before saying I'm "wrong", how then you'd explain the site works perfectly fine on Windows 10 and old UA?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1 hour ago, Dixel said:

under Windows 10, the OS you've been running for a couple of years instead of XP

My 13.5.1030 Redux is dated November 2023.

I was XP and XP Only way back then.  (Well, not at work, but XP and XP *ONLY* at home.)

It was only "months" ago that I switched from XP to 10 (at home).

But my Acer Aspire One is still on XP at home (but I use Serpent 52 on it).

[Dixel]

 

My 13.5.1030 Redux is dated November 2023.

I was XP and XP Only way back then.  (Well, not at work, but XP and XP *ONLY* at home.)

It was only "months" ago that I switched from XP to 10 (at home).

But my Acer Aspire One is still on XP at home (but I use Serpent 52 on it).

That's not what I meant, and you perfectly know it. I meant you spoofed to v.77 from a Windows 10 machine.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

42 minutes ago, Dixel said:

and you perfectly know it

No, I didn't.  Like somebody else alluded to, it seems you are seeking strife where none exists.

I'll take guidance from that other person and conclude this discussion herein.

[Dixel]

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

No, I didn't.  Like somebody else alluded to, it seems you are seeking strife where none exists.

I'll take guidance from that other person and conclude this discussion herein.

You accused me of being "wrong" without proof, without providing any insight on why it works on Windows 10 with an old UA, or even the original one, like in the case with the member @66cats.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/182304-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-86-general-discussion/?do=findComment&comment=1268986

And now you write "it seems you are seeking strife where none exists." Are you sure you didn't confuse me someone else? I'd like to get to the bottom of why it works on 10, but not XP, which is the topic. Got any problem with that? Ignore, then.

My theory is the fingerprint the browser makes. Client Hints is one of the most possible culprits. 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

5 hours ago, Dave-H said:

Thanks all, the user agent modification has indeed fixed it.

Please advise if you did this in XP or 10.  Thanks.

[Dave-H]

In XP.

I don't use 360Chrome on Windows 10.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1 hour ago, Dave-H said:

I don't use 360Chrome on Windows 10.

Agreed, same here.  There is no "need" in Win 10.

[Mathwiz]

On 7/10/2024 at 5:21 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

On 7/10/2024 at 12:33 PM, Dave-H said:

www.bbcpa.org.uk

Did you intend to link to an ht-tp instead of to an ht-tpS?

I don't think it was @Dave-H's intent; it's just how MSFN works. If you type in a host name starting with "www.", MSFN will automatically make it a link, and add http:// (without the s):

<a href="http://www.bbcpa.org.uk" rel="external nofollow">www.bbcpa.org.uk</a>

No real harm done, since like most modern sites, bbcpa.org.uk redirects to an https: site immediately.

[Dave-H]

Another puzzling thing has started happening on my copy of 360Chrome 13.5.2036.0.

I do use the password remembering mechanism on non-critical websites, just for convenience.
It has always worked as it should, automatically filling in the login information.

I recently noticed that it was no longer doing this on some (but not all) sites.
By pure chance, I've now discovered that if I switch the proxy on from the menu, which is ProxHTTPSProxy in my case, the logins appear again.
If I go back to a direct connection and refresh the page, they vanish again!

Anyone any idea why that would be?
Have the sites in question perhaps changed their code such that they need the proxy to allow the display of the login information?
The same sites' login information still appears fine on Thorium and Supermium with a direct connection.

It;'s not a big deal, just annoying, the sites still login fine if I put the information in, it's just very puzzling why the automatic system is now malfunctioning.

[Dave-H]

Anyone any thoughts on this?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I'd have to see the cookie contents to fathom a guess.

I suspect it is possible that if you log in WITH a proxy, then you only stay logged in WITH a proxy.

ie, there is something contained inside the cookie to know that you were routed through a proxy.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Also, not all proxies will pass through all URL "anchors".  ie, does the site you are seeing this with have a # in the URL?