Extreme Explorer 360 Chromium 78-86 General Discussion

[DrWho3000]

how do I put in widevine in to 360EE

 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Please do not post the same exact question into three different threads.

[Sampei.Nihira]

Greetings to all MSFN members.

 

I have noticed that most MSFN members have great hardware at their disposal.
It would be interesting to see if it is possible in the browser to lighten the CPU work to the advantage of the GPU and thus improve the browsing experience.
First we need to verify if the hardware acceleration works:

 

chrome://gpu

 

If hardware acceleration works, whether it can be improved via 2 experimental flags (if any):

"GPU rasterization"

"Zero-copy rasterizer"

the difference with the 2 active flags is visible in the following images:

 

Some more info on your GPU from the GPU-Z software that follows in the footsteps of its more famous big brother, which I assume runs on Windows XP:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

 

You will forgive me as always if I can no longer verify this information directly, even at work we no longer have Windows XP available.

[UCyborg]

No such thing as working hardware acceleration in Chrome on XP that I've seen in real life.

Edit: someone got it working with old Chrome and WineD3D, but it seems to be hit or miss at best.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15073593/does-chrome-support-gpu-hardware-acceleration-for-the-2d-canvas-under-windows-xp

Edited March 15, 2022 by UCyborg

[Sampei.Nihira]

Thanks for the reply can you check the sequence below for me:

• Right click on the desktop, then in the context menu, click on Properties
• Click on the Settings tab, then click on Advanced.
• Troubleshooting tab
• Move the hardware acceleration slider to the third notch or higher.
• OK - close

And check in Chrome as well?
TH.

_______________________________________________________________________________________

P.S. Has anyone heard from Feodor2? 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Sampei.Nihira

[UCyborg]

@Sampei.Nihira
I played with the slider in the past to see what it does, seems to disable certain operations related to screen rendering, not sure how if/it relates to Direct3D, would have to try again. I know D3D acceleration can be disabled separately via dxdiag (DirectX Diagnostic Tool).

The thing with Chrome is that it needs Direct3D9Ex APIs (Vista+) while XP only has regular Direct3D9.

[VistaLover]

360EEv12 (Chromium 78) on VistaSP2 x86: 

Problems Detected for Hardware GPU

Hardware video decode is only supported in win7+: 159458
Disabled Features: accelerated_video_decode
All Intel drivers before 8.15.10.2021 are buggy with Stage3D baseline mode: 172771
Disabled Features: flash_stage3d_baseline
Accelerated video decode interferes with GPU sandbox on older Intel drivers: 180695, 298968, 436968
Disabled Features: accelerated_video_decode
Disable GPU on all Windows versions prior to and including Vista: 315199
Disabled Features: flash_stage3d, gpu_compositing, gpu_rasterization, flash3d, metal, accelerated_webgl2, accelerated_2d_canvas, protected_video_decode, oop_rasterization, accelerated_video_decode, android_surface_control, accelerated_webgl, flash_stage3d_baseline
GPU rasterization should only be enabled on NVIDIA and Intel and AMD RX-R2 GPUs with DX11+ or any GPU using ANGLE's GL backend.: 643850
Disabled Features: gpu_rasterization
Disable use of D3D11/WebGL2 on Windows Vista and lower
Disabled Features: accelerated_webgl2
Old Intel drivers cannot reliably support D3D11/WebGL2: 363721
Disabled Features: accelerated_webgl2
Protected video decoding with swap chain is for Windows and Intel only
Disabled Features: protected_video_decode
Intel drivers older than 2010 on Windows are possibly unreliable: 72979, 89802, 315205, 977432
Disabled Features: flash3d, flash_stage3d, accelerated_webgl, accelerated_2d_canvas
Some drivers are unable to reset the D3D device in the GPU process sandbox
Applied Workarounds: exit_on_context_lost
Disable use of Direct3D 11 on Windows Vista and lower
Applied Workarounds: disable_d3d11
Clear uniforms before first program use on all platforms: 124764, 349137
Applied Workarounds: clear_uniforms_before_first_program_use
Always rewrite vec/mat constructors to be consistent: 398694
Applied Workarounds: scalarize_vec_and_mat_constructor_args
Old Intel drivers cannot reliably support D3D11: 363721
Applied Workarounds: disable_d3d11
On Intel GPUs MSAA performance is not acceptable for GPU rasterization: 527565
Applied Workarounds: msaa_is_slow
Framebuffer discarding can hurt performance on non-tilers: 570897
Applied Workarounds: disable_discard_framebuffer
Direct composition flashes black initially on Win <10: 588588
Applied Workarounds: disable_direct_composition
Zero copy DXGI video hangs on shutdown on Win < 8.1: 621190
Applied Workarounds: disable_dxgi_zero_copy_video
Disable KHR_blend_equation_advanced until cc shaders are updated: 661715
Applied Workarounds: disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced), disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent)
Decode and Encode before generateMipmap for srgb format textures on Windows: 634519
Applied Workarounds: decode_encode_srgb_for_generatemipmap
VPx decoding isn't supported well before Windows 10 creators update.: 616318, 667532
Applied Workarounds: disable_accelerated_vpx_decode
Accelerated VPx decoding is hanging on some videos.: 654111
Applied Workarounds: disable_accelerated_vpx_decode
Overlay sizes bigger than screen aren't accelerated on some Intel drivers: 720059
Applied Workarounds: disable_larger_than_screen_overlays
Delayed copy NV12 crashes on Intel on Windows <= 8.1.: 727216
Applied Workarounds: disable_delayed_copy_nv12
Dynamic texture map crashes on Intel drivers less than version 24: 890227
Applied Workarounds: disable_nv12_dynamic_textures
Raster is using a single thread.
Disabled Features: multiple_raster_threads

With chrome://flags/#ignore-gpu-blacklist set to Enabled (and browser restarted): 

and 

Problems Detected

Some drivers are unable to reset the D3D device in the GPU process sandbox
Applied Workarounds: exit_on_context_lost
Disable use of Direct3D 11 on Windows Vista and lower
Applied Workarounds: disable_d3d11
Clear uniforms before first program use on all platforms: 124764, 349137
Applied Workarounds: clear_uniforms_before_first_program_use
Always rewrite vec/mat constructors to be consistent: 398694
Applied Workarounds: scalarize_vec_and_mat_constructor_args
Old Intel drivers cannot reliably support D3D11: 363721
Applied Workarounds: disable_d3d11
ANGLE crash on glReadPixels from incomplete cube map texture: 518889
Applied Workarounds: force_cube_complete
On Intel GPUs MSAA performance is not acceptable for GPU rasterization: 527565
Applied Workarounds: msaa_is_slow
Framebuffer discarding can hurt performance on non-tilers: 570897
Applied Workarounds: disable_discard_framebuffer
Direct composition flashes black initially on Win <10: 588588
Applied Workarounds: disable_direct_composition
Zero copy DXGI video hangs on shutdown on Win < 8.1: 621190
Applied Workarounds: disable_dxgi_zero_copy_video
Disable KHR_blend_equation_advanced until cc shaders are updated: 661715
Applied Workarounds: disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced), disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent)
Decode and Encode before generateMipmap for srgb format textures on Windows: 634519
Applied Workarounds: decode_encode_srgb_for_generatemipmap
VPx decoding isn't supported well before Windows 10 creators update.: 616318, 667532
Applied Workarounds: disable_accelerated_vpx_decode
Accelerated VPx decoding is hanging on some videos.: 654111
Applied Workarounds: disable_accelerated_vpx_decode
Overlay sizes bigger than screen aren't accelerated on some Intel drivers: 720059
Applied Workarounds: disable_larger_than_screen_overlays
Delayed copy NV12 crashes on Intel on Windows <= 8.1.: 727216
Applied Workarounds: disable_delayed_copy_nv12
Dynamic texture map crashes on Intel drivers less than version 24: 890227
Applied Workarounds: disable_nv12_dynamic_textures
Raster is using a single thread.
Disabled Features: multiple_raster_threads
ANGLE Features
disable_program_caching_for_transform_feedback (Frontend workarounds): Disabled
On Qualcomm GPUs, program binaries don't contain transform feedback varyings
lose_context_on_out_of_memory (Frontend workarounds): Enabled
Some users rely on a lost context notification if a GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY error occurs
scalarize_vec_and_mat_constructor_args (Frontend workarounds) 398694: Enabled
Always rewrite vec/mat constructors to be consistent
sync_framebuffer_bindings_on_tex_image (Frontend workarounds): Disabled
On Windows Intel OpenGL drivers TexImage sometimes seems to interact with the Framebuffer
add_dummy_texture_no_render_target (D3D workarounds) anglebug:2152: Disabled
On D3D ntel drivers <4815 when rendering with no render target, two bugs lead to incorrect behavior
allow_clear_for_robust_resource_init (D3D workarounds) 941620: Disabled
Some drivers corrupt texture data when clearing for robust resource initialization.
call_clear_twice (D3D workarounds) 655534: Disabled
On some Intel drivers, using clear() may not take effect
depth_stencil_blit_extra_copy (D3D workarounds) anglebug:1452: Disabled
Bug in NVIDIA D3D11 Driver version <=347.88 and >368.81 triggers a TDR when using CopySubresourceRegion from a staging texture to a depth/stencil
disable_b5g6r5_support (D3D workarounds): Disabled
On Intel and AMD drivers, textures with the format DXGI_FORMAT_B5G6R5_UNORM have incorrect data
emulate_isnan_float (D3D workarounds) 650547: Disabled
On some Intel drivers, using isnan() on highp float will get wrong answer
emulate_tiny_stencil_textures (D3D workarounds): Disabled
On some AMD drivers, 1x1 and 2x2 mips of depth/stencil textures aren't sampled correctly
expand_integer_pow_expressions (D3D workarounds): Enabled
The HLSL optimizer has a bug with optimizing 'pow' in certain integer-valued expressions
flush_after_ending_transform_feedback (D3D workarounds): Disabled
NVIDIA drivers sometimes write out-of-order results to StreamOut buffers when transform feedback is used to repeatedly write to the same buffer positions
force_atomic_value_resolution (D3D workarounds) anglebug:3246: Disabled
On an NVIDIA D3D driver, the return value from RWByteAddressBuffer.InterlockedAdd does not resolve when used in the .yzw components of a RWByteAddressBuffer.Store operation
get_dimensions_ignores_base_level (D3D workarounds): Disabled
Some NVIDIA drivers do not take into account the base level of the texture in the results of the HLSL GetDimensions builtin
mrt_perf_workaround (D3D workarounds): Enabled
Some NVIDIA D3D11 drivers have a bug where they ignore null render targets
pre_add_texel_fetch_offsets (D3D workarounds): Disabled
On some Intel drivers, HLSL's function texture.Load returns 0 when the parameter Location is negative, even if the sum of Offset and Location is in range
rewrite_unary_minus_operator (D3D workarounds): Disabled
On some Intel drivers, evaluating unary minus operator on integer may get wrong answer in vertex shaders
select_view_in_geometry_shader (D3D workarounds): Disabled
The viewport or render target slice will be selected in the geometry shader stage for the ANGLE_multiview extension
set_data_faster_than_image_upload (D3D workarounds): Disabled
Set data faster than image upload
skip_vs_constant_register_zero (D3D workarounds): Disabled
On NVIDIA D3D driver v388.59 in specific cases the driver doesn't handle constant register zero correctly
use_instanced_point_sprite_emulation (D3D workarounds): Disabled
Some D3D11 renderers do not support geometry shaders for pointsprite emulation
use_system_memory_for_constant_buffers (D3D workarounds) 593024: Disabled
On some Intel drivers, copying from staging storage to constant buffer storage does not work
zero_max_lod (D3D workarounds): Disabled
D3D11 is missing an option to disable mipmaps on a mipmapped texture

... But my GPU isn't really up to the task , as I have artifacts (black rectangles) in page rendering: 

So, back to S/W I am...  

[NotHereToPlayGames]

4 hours ago, Sampei.Nihira said:

First we need to verify if the hardware acceleration works:

I'm up to NINE computers and they are all i3 or older except for one i7.

Hardware acceleration does NOT work on any of them!  I have ZERO performance gain with hardware acceleration and TONS of graphics issues when I enable it.

9 times out of 10, if you have issues you are researching, the FIRST suggestion is ALWAYS to "disable hardware acceleration".

I personally would never suggest anybody to enable hardware acceleration - "mileage may vary".

[Sampei.Nihira]

This article is fairly recent, and may interest you:

 

https://www.gpudrive.com/gpu-rasterization/

[UCyborg]

On 3/15/2022 at 9:08 AM, Sampei.Nihira said:

"GPU rasterization"

"Zero-copy rasterizer"

Can't say I notice any difference during normal browsing.

Some writeup on texture uploads related to zero-copy rasterizer. Perhaps it's more relevant for Intel CPUs with onboard GPU. This might be another hint that it might be completely irrelevant on Windows.

Edited March 16, 2022 by UCyborg

[Cixert]

Sessions copies disappear
I have Tab Session Manager installed in "360 Extreme Explorer" as an extension to recover tabs in case of system failure, although I often use the combination "control+shift+T" to restore tabs when they are closed randomly.
However, every few months when I get a blue screen or crash, "control+shift+T" stops working, so that's when I start working with Tab Session Manager. But when I open the extension there are no saved browsing sessions, they are all gone. This has always happened to me when I have the problem, so the extension does not work for me.
I would like to know how to recover these lost sessions, both the copies saved in Chrome folders and the copies saved by Tab Session Manager.
Do you know an extension to save tabs that does work?

[ginger334]

On 12/17/2021 at 6:44 PM, Humming Owl said:

From what I see that isn't the latest version of the browser.

Download the latest from here --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version

I think pressing the Escape key was the solution to that problem (only at the very first run of the browser).

Cheers.

Thanks now it works.

[Cixert]

On 1/30/2022 at 12:33 AM, DrWho3000 said:

how do I put in widevine in to 360EE

 

It's not possible because XP version is off on Google server.
You can watch Netflix DRM on NewMoon with Silverlight
(Firefox 49-52 no longer works well on normal Netflix webpage)
(HBO does not work with Silverlight)

More info here

  and here

 

Edited April 1, 2022 by Cixert

[Cixert]

On menu Tools+Clear browsing data is the option  "Automatic clear the selected".

What does this option?

It said...

"To make the exit more efficient, clean the browser cache first. Click the button to clear"

[NotHereToPlayGames]

That option sets 360Chrome to clear the selected items each and every time that you close 360Chrome.

The click the button dialog is because the very first time that a user sets this, they could have selected items in the GIGABYTE range, so the prompt is to clear that 'now' instead of waiting for the next closing of 360Chrome.