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  1. Interesting but I don't use noscript. The problem with the certificates only appears on version 13, original or modified. On other versions the certificates work correctly.
  2. I have the same problem with the certificates on version 13. On versions 12 and 11 I haven't problems with the certificates. I have the root certificates updated by various methods. Most sites cannot make a secure connection despite the fact that the certificates are up to date. Sometimes it is solved by manually installing an intermediate certificate. But in the case of MSFN forum site all the certificates are correct, however the secure connection does not occur. v12 capture v13 capture Web site unsafe connect unsafe connect Edit: I have done more tests: On MSFN.org 2 identical unzipped versions of the mod by Humming Owl A works https Another does not work https I have checked the settings and put it identical on both. Nothing has changed, one works and another doesn't. I've also tried installing the original Chinese version and it doesn't show https either On sites with problems with intermediate certificates Neither browser v13 connects with intermediate certificates
  3. When I first start 360 Extreme Explorer english mod the browser won't let me touch any option or click anywhere. A beep sounds like the one that sounds when another window is open and you can't touch anything. To close 360 I have to force the closing with the Windows task explorer. When I open 360 for the second time everything seems to work fine.
  4. This is a real shame https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal
  5. The website www.clivetownsend.com works perfectly for me. I have Java 8 uptate 25 installed in Windows XP (compilation 1.8.0_25-b18). It is better that you consult the specific forum for the 360 browser. https://msfn.org/board/topic/182304-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-86-general-discussion/
  6. Opera 12.18 russian mod alternative download https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A or https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w
  7. I have tried Kafan MiniBrowser. It works fine but has a problem with the RAM. Computer 1: Pentium 4 with 2 GiB RAM & PATA Disk: This only works fast up to a maximum of 5 tabs open at the same time (approximate according to web size). From there it starts working with virtual memory and you may have to wait 15 minutes when opening new pages for it to load virtual memory on the PATA hard drive. Computer 2: Core i3 with 8 GiB RAM & SSD disk: In this computer I have the Windows virtual memory disabled. This works well up to a maximum of 25 tabs open at the same time (approximate according to web size). From there it reaches the 8 GiB RAM limit, at which point the result is unpredictable: -Mini Browser Freeze -Blue screen -Windows XP processes are closed
  8. I see now this option but it says only available in Ultimate version http://www.avantbrowser.com/download.aspx?uil=en When I install ultimate version again I don't see the option. Also, I can't navigate the Internet. Edit: The option only appears after pressing the options menu, clicking on the rendering engine, switching to Internet Explorer and after opening a web page compatible with Internet Explorer such as www.google.com Now that I see the option it just shows me: -Internet Explorer -Firefox It doesn't show me Chrome. When I try to choose Firefox it does not allow me. Some time ago I tried this browser and I think the last full version compatible with Windows XP is from a few years ago. And beware, this changes the Internet Explorer home page automatically.
  9. You can try Borealis Navigator, the official version does not exist yet. But Roytam1 has a fork available.
  10. Update post, Maxthon 6 is not Windows XP compatible. -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official version:* https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the last one compatible with Windows XP. Maxthon beta (2020-01-06) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382100-r214 / Maxthom release (2019-10-24) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382000-r213 /
  11. Sorry. I don´t know. What is the reason for rejecting rendering by hardware?
  12. I'm going to see how Kafan MiniBrowser works. This looks like an original Chromium 87 build with little change. Testing the configuration menu I see that the "security keys" option resets the browser. The rest works fine. It catches my attention that when browsing the Internet the Windows XP firewall jumps. I have chosen the option to reject additional network connections and it seems to still work normally. https://browser.kfsafe.cn
  13. I enter to http://www.clivetownsend.com/ with 360 Extreme Explorer and Kafan Minibrowser without any problem.
  14. I do not know lightspark. Webgl 2.0 compatibility can be checked here: https://html5test.com 360 Extreme Explorer is supported (chromium) New Moon is supported (mozilla) K-Meleon 76.1 is not supported (mozilla)
  15. I don't see how to change the Trident motor
  16. It seems to work fine (Chromium 87) and it is multilanguage. This is the web site https://browser.kfsafe.cn
  17. I can't find MiniBrowser, can you put a link? This is from 2011 https://dmkho.tripod.com/mb/index.html I have found the Vivaldi browser to be compatible with Windows XP but it seems to use the Google Chrome engine 49.0.2623.110 can anyone give more information? Edit: Opening with 7-Zip I see it is from 2016. https://vivaldi.com As a curiosity, I add the following tools to the list: Clients that displays modern web pages in old browsers thanks to a proxy server that converts web pages into images: -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp Search engine that works in older browsers (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com
  18. The last release is from 2018-02-17. It doesn´t a browser updated. If someone wants to try you should download this github full version LunaSetup6152_ml11_gl_full.exe https://github.com/lunascape/orion-installer/releases/download/v6.15.2.27564/LunaSetup6152_ml11_gl_full.exe The webpage version is only a downloader for the Gecko and Webkit engines that does not work. It says that the Trident engine is included but it actually uses the engine from the Internet Explorer version that is installed on Windows. Gecko and Webkit are only compatible with Windows XP SP1. It is not compatible with Windows 2000.
  19. portable version link is old version, sorry. I haven't new version link.
  20. Due to the doubts and the incipient erroneous articles published on the Internet saying that Windows XP does not have updated browsers, I open this post indicating the complete information on all the companies or software programmers that make versions of browsers compatible with Windows XP. But first it is necessary to clarify some fundamental concepts. The first fundamental concept is that today there are only 2 Internet Explorer projects for any Windows. The Chromium project and the Mozilla foundation. No, the basic existing browsers are not Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox and Microsoft Edge. Opera abandoned its own "Presto" browser engine in 2012 and Microsoft stopped developing its own browser known as Internet Explorer. Now both the Opera browser and Microsoft's browser are based on the Chromium project, an open source database for developing a web browser, maintained by various companies that later use the source code to create their own version of the browser with additional features. Google develops Chrome and Microsoft develops Edge, as well as various companies using the same codebase. None of these companies create versions compatible with Windows XP but many others do, for many they are unknown companies but in China they generally work with Windows XP due to the delicacy of the manufacturing processes and the independent control provided by this operating system. By not needing direct connections with Microsoft and therefore with the US Government. There are many Chinese browsers based on both Chromium and Mozilla, the Chromium versions come with telemetry for the Chinese Government to know which websites you visit (Google also does it for the USA and stronger) but there are versions that have this capacity removed . There are also browsers from other places but they are less developed such as Otter Browser or RetroZilla. Based on Mozilla we can also find updated browsers even for Windows 2000, although for this system they have not passed the beta phase as forks of K-Meleon and PaleMoon developed by Roytam1. For Windows XP: Chromium-based versions can be found in English and Chinese. Multilanguage only come with Kafan MiniBrowser (except installer), Maxthon and UC Browser. For english Mozilla based versions, many can be patched in another language. I recommend using the English Chromium-based versions because of their speed compared to Mozilla-based ones. We must change the preferred language in which we want to see the web pages to our language. Below I indicate which are the best developments for Windows XP and its base code version in June 2021: 360 Extreme Explorer (Chromium 86) It is the international version of the Chinese 360 Secure Explorer browser. You can download this Russian version without telemetry here: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) https://rsload.net/soft/browser/17362-360-browser.html or here: https://lrepacks.ru/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html New english mod version without telemetry (testing): https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version In this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion To work with Chromium it is essential that we understand the Windows certificate system, since https web pages will depend on their being up to date. While Mozilla-based browsers already have them integrated into the browser itself. To update the Windows XP certificates, download a package updated by the Japanese BlackWingCat on its Windows Legacy Update website: http://win2k.org/wlu/wluen.htm We go to the manual update section and look for certificates. Unzip the file with 7-Zip or WinRar and then install it (the files on this website come in a format that I have not been able to use in XP in Spanish or discussing it with the author, so don't get complicated, unzip with 7-zip and install). Based on Mozilla, the best browsers are these: By Roytam1: -New Moon (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) -K-Meleon (K-Meleon fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / UXP basilisk52 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / Mobieus basilisk55 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) All are versioned by Roytam1 and lack telemetry for the use of any Government, this is their website to download: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser And in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/ He also has forks of: -Artic-Fox (MAC fork) -Borealis (Borealis Navigator fork - Netscape Navigator fork) -IceApe (IceWesel fork) And special versions for SSE 1 processors. By Feodor2: (project is down on September 2021) -MyPal (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal -Centaury (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Centaury/releases The full list of Chromium-based browsers is this: -2345 Explorer (Chinese only) http://ie.2345.cc/ (for PC) https://app.2345.com/ (for phone) -360 Extreme Explorer (webkit adapted to Blink + Trident (IE according to web compatibility) 360 Extreme Explorer is the current name of the international version of the Chinese 360 Secure Explorer. Not to be confused with the name "Browser 360" which refers to an old international version whose latest version is based on Chromium 31 https://360-browser.en.softonic.com/ International versions based on Chromium 78 or higher are called "360 Extreme Explorer": Links: Official international version (web english version only old version 11): https://browser.360.cn/ee/en.html On Septembre 2021 web for english version only on Chinese (careful, uninstall 360 also only on Chinese) https://browser.360.cn/ee/ Modified in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360chrome.html Modified in Russia: https://rsload.net/soft/browser/17362-360-browser.html https://lrepacks.ru/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Forum in Russian to modify the official international version: http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=49673 The current version for the Chinese market is called ... -360 Secure Explorer also known as 360 Secure Browser The official version can be downloaded here (only in Chinese language) http://browser.360.cn/ And here is the modified version in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360se.html -Kafan MiniBrowser aka MiniBlink aka MiniChrome (Chromium 87) Official version multilanguage (install only Chinese): https://browser.kfsafe.cn Maximum perfomance: 2 GiB RAM: 5 tabs open 8 GiB RAM: 25 tabs open -Liebao also known as Cheetah Secure Browser by Kingsoft Official version: https://www.liebao.cn/ Change Chinese to English language: https://malwaretips.com/threads/liebao-cheetah-browser.381 Portable version (old version - link is down) https://www.portablesoft.org/down/3022/ -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official version multilanguage:* https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the last one compatible with Windows XP. Maxthon beta (2020-01-06) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382100-r214 / Maxthom release (2019-10-24) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382000-r213 / -QQ Browser (Blink + Trident) Official version (be careful, better not install, it looks like a virus / spyware that puts a lot of advertising on your computer) https://browser.qq.com/ -Sogou Explorer (only exists in Chinese language) Official version: https://ie.sogou.com/ Modified version in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/sogouexplorer.html Both in Windows XP and Windows 10 it gives me the following error: w10 error xx183 cannot create a file that already exists -UC Browser (Chromium 54) Official version multilanguage: http://www.ucweb.com/ucbrowser/download/ Alternative download: https://www.filehorse.com/download-uc-browser-for-windows/ Modified version in China (it is possible to change the language to English after navigating the menu in Chinese): http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/ucbrower.html -TS Browser (Chromium 75) Official version: http://tsbrowser.xiangtatech.com It seems to work as well as 360 Extreme Explorer but I haven't gotten it to read the updated certificates. Other browsers for Windows XP: -Netsurf (experimental without Javascript) https://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/windows/ -Otter Browser (Opera Classic - Qt5) https://otter-browser.org -Opera 12.18_45 unofficial (mod 06.11.20) (Russian only) https://www.upload.ee/files/12483022/Opera_Unofficial_Portable_12.18_45.zip.html (link is down) alternative download https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A or https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w Forum: https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8570 -RetroZilla (Gecko 1.8.1 fork) https://github.com/rn10950/RetroZilla/releases/ Also compatible with Windows 95 -Tor Browser 7.5.6 unoffial updated internal components, with Tor (Release May, 2021). English and Russian packs. https://www.upload.ee/files/13208675/TB756_en_0458.ZIP.html (English) SHA256: a22a94bd1d4f23b6b1538ce3cddc3555e0c67fe423d80f4e541b8c8a409f3dc4 https://www.upload.ee/files/13208684/TB756_ru_0458.ZIP.html (Russian) SHA256: d0036853c3fd6de568f274f10a63fa4b46db0c0bc7669045f41c2f37f8a20fb9 Forum: https://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5834#20 https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html Clients that displays modern web pages in old browsers thanks to a proxy server that converts web pages into images: -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp/releases/ Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp Search engine that works in older browsers -FrogFind (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com Pages are being created with various updated information: -XPforever https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page -retrobrowser.com http://retrobrowsers.com/windowsxp
  21. Here all Russian versions portable and supposedly without telemetry.
  22. I think it is a bug that occurs in 360 Extreme Explorer, since memory consumption suddenly skyrockets. Technically I don't understand why if I cancel 360 Extreme cache and delete Windows XP x86 virtual memory the consumption of this type of memory increases. (even a warning notice appears). On older computers with SATA disks it does not crash, but rather slows down for many minutes at startup. It is with the SSD that it crashes. I would like to find a system to limit the memory consumption in 360, for example controlling the time that the tabs are kept open in RAM. I have tried various extensions. CAUTION The Great Suspender is removed from the Extension Center, according to Google the new version has spy code. In any case, the extension works to reduce the RAM using 360 but it does not reduce the RAM when starting 360 Extreme restoring tabs, but on the contrary, it increases it, since it must proceed to perform additional operations. I have also tried the One Tab extension, with one button it concentrates all the tabs in one, but unfortunately restores them out of order. I have found little tricks to restore tabs. After a crash it sometimes works not to press the restore tabs button. I leave 360 with a tab for several minutes and then press control + shift + t and it restores the tabs without firing the RAM. It doesn't always work. Yes it works to open 360 with a single tab and use the Tab Session Manager extension restoring the tabs from there, it does not fail and it does not increase the RAM. Another option I have found is to override Isolation chrome: // flags / # site-isolation-trial-opt-out But I have not observed real effects. I will test with 360 Extreme Explorer v13 I insist on thinking that it is a bug. And one thing I am very clear about. If something cannot be done with Windows XP it is something that does not interest me. Windows XP is forever or it won't be. I would abandon computing :-)
  23. Yes, that's what I do and it happens to me. I am observing that with just one more tab it increases to 72 processes in the task manager No problem with Mozilla versions and many tabs, except slower system.
  24. Right now I have 136 tabs open, seven .exe are open. The error does not occur when I open many tabs, but when I close 360 Extreme Explorer with many tabs and reopen it. Opening it is when the crash occurs, suddenly increasing the RAM consumption. It seems that the less powerful the computer is, the earlier the error occurs based on the number of open tabs. Although it could be that it only happened in my computers, because I use Windows XP with cloned versions from one computer to another. Edit: At this point I have rebooted with 137 tabs and upped the RAM to 7.02 GiB. 360 Extreme has not crashed but the processes of all the extensions have been closed (it is another collateral error before the crash) Right now I have 72 processes of 360chrome.exe without crashing. The next time I rebooted with 138 tabs it crashed.

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