blackwingcat Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 8 hours ago, SkyKuker said: Since I use a real machine, I can use "dd" or "Disk2vhd" to create an image and then attach the link to the image to my message if I must share a virtual disk image with you. Which method is more convenient for you? Can you reproduce it on the VM environment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Hello! Recently, I've been playing around with Windows 2000 and the extended kernel on an old ThinkPad I own, and it's been really nice! It's neat to see how much I can actually do with it. However, on newer versions of the extended kernel (from the win2k.org wlu update site), I noticed that it messes up the fonts after you install it. Arial and Times New Roman, in particular, look clean and nicely aligned before applying the extended kernel, but afterwards look like a complete mess and are far less readable. It's particularly easy to see in a text editor, like Wordpad, if you do a before and after comparison. Is there any way to reverse the messed up fonts? I tried expanding and copying back over the original TTFs from the Win2K install medium, but that unfortunately didn't help any... I also tried looking for a settings panel to control the font rendering, but was unsuccessful, save for toggling the smooth fonts option in the Display Options (which didn't fix it, just made it blurrier). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwingcat Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 19 hours ago, Mirage said: Hello! Recently, I've been playing around with Windows 2000 and the extended kernel on an old ThinkPad I own, and it's been really nice! It's neat to see how much I can actually do with it. However, on newer versions of the extended kernel (from the win2k.org wlu update site), I noticed that it messes up the fonts after you install it. Arial and Times New Roman, in particular, look clean and nicely aligned before applying the extended kernel, but afterwards look like a complete mess and are far less readable. It's particularly easy to see in a text editor, like Wordpad, if you do a before and after comparison. Is there any way to reverse the messed up fonts? I tried expanding and copying back over the original TTFs from the Win2K install medium, but that unfortunately didn't help any... I also tried looking for a settings panel to control the font rendering, but was unsuccessful, save for toggling the smooth fonts option in the Display Options (which didn't fix it, just made it blurrier). Unfortunately, I don't use it usually, so I can not recognize oddly font style. Can you show me comparable screenshot before and after ? :3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton12 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) Hello Mirage, You write as follows: "Recently, I've been playing around with Windows 2000 and the extended kernel on an old ThinkPad I own, and it's been really nice! However, on newer versions of the extended kernel (from the win2k.org wlu update site), I noticed that it messes up the fonts after you install it." Please,can you specify which version of KEX does not have the fonts problem and which newer versions do have the fonts problem ? Does KEX v30fM have the problem ? Edited April 20, 2023 by anton12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/19/2023 at 8:54 PM, blackwingcat said: Unfortunately, I don't use it usually, so I can not recognize oddly font style. Can you show me comparable screenshot before and after ? :3 Sorry for the delay! Absolutely, I've attached before and after pictures to this post. The first picture is Windows 2000 before any extended kernels, the latter is after applying 3.1g2 . The top line of text is Arial, the bottom one is Times New Roman. I've not sure if the images will look compressed after uploading them here - if they are and both look fuzzy, then I'll trying uploading them to imgur or some other image hosting site. Wordpad's an easy place to see the fuzziness, but it's not exclusive to Wordpad - it shows up anywhere these fonts are used, such as in Internet Explorer or in application installers. as well. On 4/20/2023 at 8:45 AM, anton12 said: Hello Mirage, You write as follows: "Recently, I've been playing around with Windows 2000 and the extended kernel on an old ThinkPad I own, and it's been really nice! However, on newer versions of the extended kernel (from the win2k.org wlu update site), I noticed that it messes up the fonts after you install it." Please,can you specify which version of KEX does not have the fonts problem and which newer versions do have the fonts problem ? Does KEX v30fM have the problem ? Sure thing. The most recent version of the extended kernel is affected (g2). I know for sure that 3.0e isn't affected, since that was the first version I tried and didn't have any problems then. I gave 3.0f a try and it wasn't affected either, the fonts look the same before and after. Tomorrow, when I have more time, I'll sit down and see if I can pin down the exact extended kernel version where the problem first shows up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwingcat Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 12:27 AM, Mirage said: Sorry for the delay! Absolutely, I've attached before and after pictures to this post. The first picture is Windows 2000 before any extended kernels, the latter is after applying 3.1g2 . The top line of text is Arial, the bottom one is Times New Roman. I've not sure if the images will look compressed after uploading them here - if they are and both look fuzzy, then I'll trying uploading them to imgur or some other image hosting site. Wordpad's an easy place to see the fuzziness, but it's not exclusive to Wordpad - it shows up anywhere these fonts are used, such as in Internet Explorer or in application installers. as well. Sure thing. The most recent version of the extended kernel is affected (g2). I know for sure that 3.0e isn't affected, since that was the first version I tried and didn't have any problems then. I gave 3.0f a try and it wasn't affected either, the fonts look the same before and after. Tomorrow, when I have more time, I'll sit down and see if I can pin down the exact extended kernel version where the problem first shows up. I found the problem comes from win32k.sys 5.0.2195.7603, 5.0.2195.7624, 5.0.2195.7636, 5.0.2195.7640 has same problem X3 Externded kernel v5.0.2195.7641 is based on 7640 https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5174319/font-problems-in-vista-after-windows-update-kb3013455 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mina7601 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 @Mirage Windows 2000 Extended Kernel v3.1h has been released, and it fixes the font issue you mentioned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton12 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Thanks to Blackwingcat's KEX v3.1h ! The fonts problem seems to be solved. Opera 12.18 with Accessibility Layout activated also has no more fonts problem (though it was not a big thing). PS: I just discovered that SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 won't work (start) any more with KEX 3.1h I returned back to KEX v3.0f and SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 works perfectly again. Edited April 28, 2023 by anton12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwingcat Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/28/2023 at 11:58 AM, anton12 said: I just discovered that SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 won't work (start) any more with KEX 3.1h I returned back to KEX v3.0f and SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 works perfectly again. On my environment no problem. Did you use default option in english version ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton12 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Hello Blackwingcat, The following setup options for v3.0f and v3.1h are activated (all others off): Disable Vista MUI Disabled SSE2 NT5 Series 5.81 Series StringEx funtions ApplicationRecovery funtions ConditionVariable funtions InitOnce funtions With these setup options SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 won't work (start) with v3.1h but does so with v3.0f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windows2 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) On 4/30/2023 at 12:42 PM, anton12 said: Hello Blackwingcat, The following setup options for v3.0f and v3.1h are activated (all others off): Disable Vista MUI Disabled SSE2 NT5 Series 5.81 Series StringEx funtions ApplicationRecovery funtions ConditionVariable funtions InitOnce funtions With these setup options SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 won't work (start) with v3.1h but does so with v3.0f it work with me with the options i don't have idea in your selected chose effects. Edited May 6, 2023 by windows2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton12 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Hello windows2, Thanks for your answer. Does SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 work with v3.1h for you when the following setup options are modified for your KEX v3.1h installation ? Disabled SSE2 on (activated) Game support version off (deactivated) Move WFP Folder off (deactivated) NT5 Series on (activated) 5.81 Series on (activated) ConditionVariable funtions on (activated) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Blackwingcat, You wrote regarding SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 with KEX v3.1h "On my environment no problem." Can you give information of your activated/deactivated setup options for v3.1h with SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 ? Edited May 7, 2023 by anton12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwingcat Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 On 5/7/2023 at 10:26 AM, anton12 said: Hello Blackwingcat, You wrote regarding SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 with KEX v3.1h "On my environment no problem." Can you give information of your activated/deactivated setup options for v3.1h with SumatraPDF 3.1.2.0 ? I tried same options as you but it works fine X3. How about turn off (inactive) your security soft temporary ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosefReisinger Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 @blackwingcat I found out that kernel32.dll exkernel31 (in my case 5.0.2195.7281) is buggy with installing some programs when slipstreamed into w2k dvd. Adobe IX will refuse to install ( I use: START/WAIT CMD /C CALL qfcwin.cmd msiexec.exe msiexec.exe /passive /norestart /i AcroRead.msi msiexec.exe /passive /norestart /p AdbeRdrUpd11023.msp installation window will be seen as long as I want with no result - I have to stop it with taskmgr to proceed). Adobe Reader IX also cannot be installed afterwards with cmd/msiexec. If I use kernel32.dll 5.0.2195.7273, everything is fine and installation will proceed. Also, some VB runtime and update installations are affected. Greetings Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwingcat Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 11 hours ago, JosefReisinger said: @blackwingcat I found out that kernel32.dll exkernel31 (in my case 5.0.2195.7281) is buggy with installing some programs when slipstreamed into w2k dvd. Adobe IX will refuse to install ( I use: START/WAIT CMD /C CALL qfcwin.cmd msiexec.exe msiexec.exe /passive /norestart /i AcroRead.msi msiexec.exe /passive /norestart /p AdbeRdrUpd11023.msp installation window will be seen as long as I want with no result - I have to stop it with taskmgr to proceed). Adobe Reader IX also cannot be installed afterwards with cmd/msiexec. If I use kernel32.dll 5.0.2195.7273, everything is fine and installation will proceed. Also, some VB runtime and update installations are affected. Greetings Joe Is it rpcrt4.dll problem ? please try to copy system32 from "gamever\rpcrt4.dll". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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