Dave-H

Well I did the registry file with the default paths that the installer should have used, had it worked, so if your path to the JRE files wasn't exactly the same you would have needed to change it of course. In fact you could almost certainly now move the JRE files back into a subfolder of the ASuite folder as it was before if you wanted to, and as long as you change the paths in the registry to match, it should still work. As regards the Java installer failure, an alternative to trying Safe Mode would be to use msconfig and disable everything that's not necessary and try in a "clean boot" mode. Whether this would have worked I don't know, but the installer would be more likely to still run in clean boot mode than it would be in Safe Mode.

The reg file was just the equivalent key copied from the Java 8 installation on my XP system, with the paths and version numbers suitably altered for the Java 7 version you downloaded. So, a bit of both really. It was a "modified copy"!

That's a very good question. I never had any problems installing Java on XP with the normal installer until later versions of Java 8, where the Java still worked, but the installer became incompatible with XP and wouldn't run at all. It's not unusual to find multiple versions of Java on a system. Because some applications need specific versions, like with your problem where it needed specifically Java 7, installing a Java 8 version, for instance, does not uninstall any earlier versions which are already present. Different versions can coexist on the system quite happily. The only thing I can think of is that something on the system in question was blocking the Java installer from completing everything that it had to do. Could be security software of course. Did you ever try installing in Safe Mode, I can't remember? Some installers won't work anyway in Safe Mode of course, but it's always worth a try. It sounds like you're fine now anyway, and if you don't have anything else on the system that needs Java I can't see any reason to worry that it's not fully installed at system level. Cheers, Dave.

So it worked? That's great news! 👍😁👍

@videobruce Did you make any more progress with this?

I'll be very interested to hear if you get it to work, I never did.

Yet another one today! KB4493222 - Excel.

Yet another one today! KB4493222 (Excel)

Well I'm hoping that just giving ASuite access to the JRE files it needs will be enough, without actually installing Java to the system as a whole. As I said, I've got two applications on my XP system which use their own JREs and don't use the system one at all, so it's just possible that ASuite might be persuaded to do the same.

Interesting stuff thanks, but that URL just produces a blank white screen for me on Firefox 52.9ESR.

Ah, thanks for that! So it just might be possible to fool it by creating a key which will match the key that the Java installer would have created. If you create a C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.7.0_80 folder, and move the files in the JRE folder into it, a key can probably be created to point to that folder, to make the installation as standard as possible. Sort of like this perhaps? Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment] "CurrentVersion"="1.7" "BrowserJavaVersion"="10.80.2" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7] "RuntimeLib"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\bin\\client\\jvm.dll" "JavaHome"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80" "MicroVersion"="0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7.0_80] "JavaHome"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80" "MicroVersion"="0" "RuntimeLib"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\bin\\client\\jvm.dll" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7.0_80\MSI] "INSTALLDIR"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\" "JU"="" "OEMUPDATE"="" "FROMVERSION"="NA" "FROMVERSIONFULL"="" "PRODUCTVERSION"="7.0.800.15" "EULA"="" "JAVAUPDATE"="0" "AUTOUPDATECHECK"="0" "AUTOUPDATEDELAY"="" "FullVersion"="jre1.7.0_80-b15"

Just to be clear, the JRE folder needs to be in the same folder as the ASuite program files. If you just put it in the C:\Program Files folder that almost certainly won't work. EDIT: Oops, sorry, I see you actually did that! Remove the copy from the Program Files folder in case it's confusing things, so there's only one folder with the JRE files in it, and it's inside the C:\Program Files\ASuite folder.

@videobruce If you're only trying to use Java 7 with one application, you may not actually need to have it installed to the system. I have a couple of applications which use their own Java Runtime Environment, which came as part of their installation, and they don't use the system Java. Try this. Download the compressed archive of the Java 7 Update 80 JRE (the last Java 7 version AFAIK) from here. Extract the files to the jre1.7.0_80 folder, and then copy it to the Program Files folder of the application that you want to use it. You have to extract twice, as there is a .tar file inside the .gz file. You can use 7-zip for that. Don't worry if there is an error message after the first extraction, it's actually all fine, just ignore it. Rename the copied folder to "JRE". If you're lucky, the application will now find the JRE and use it, and all will be well. If it doesn't, it may be in the settings of the application somewhere to set where it looks for the JRE, and you can set it appropriately. If the application won't actually run, check its registry entries and/or any configuration files to see if the Java path is there, and set it appropriately. Good luck!

I suspect that the error message sometimes being seen (but not always, sometimes there's just a blank edit field with no error message) is just a generic one from the system software, and doesn't necessarily have any relevance to what the problem actually is. It's just a "I can't edit this post, and this might be why" message.

I don't think it's just that moved posts can't be edited. Some of the uneditable posts haven't actually been moved, and I've moved quite a few posts recently and have subsequently edited them with no problem.

Well I'm glad that experiment worked anyway! I'm still suspicious of quotations here. That last post you link to I cannot edit either, and the only thing I can see perhaps slightly unusual about it is that it contains split quotations. Now there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to do that of course, but I am wondering if the system doesn't like it for some reason.

Well the faulty post quotes OK as you can see, although without the quotations within it. Whether that means anything I don't know! If you're feeling brave @VistaLoveryou could try selecting and copying the whole post, without the thing at the bottom left, and then try editing it and pasting into the empty box. It would be interesting to see if that corrects the problem. I could try it myself, but as there is obviously a risk that the post could be permanently completely lost, I'll leave it to you to try if you want to!

Thanks, it is now snowing here! The only thing I can see at all odd in that post is that there appears to be what looks like part of a quotation box at the very bottom left. I wouldn't expect to see that, so maybe something is corrupted in the code for that post.

@VistaLover As a moderator, I should be able to edit all posts, and I've tried editing your posts in this thread. I can edit them all except the one before your last one, where I don't get an error message, but I just get an empty box where the content should be so there's nothing for me to edit! I would show you a screen grab, but I can't upload the image file. As others have reported, I'm just getting - "Sorry, an unknown server error occurred when uploading this file. (Error code: -200)" Something has definitely gone wrong somewhere! @dencorsocan you edit that post or upload files as a supervisor? No snow where I am in West London BTW, but it's extremely cold!

I wasn't aware of this at all either, and I'm surprised to see the message about no longer being able to edit a message. I have always thought that there was no time limit on editing posts here, but that may have changed with the last update to the forum software of course. Any insight @xper?

Another two updates this month! KB4493179 (PowerPoint) KB4493180 (Office) KB4493180 contains another XP incompatible version of MSO.DLL, so will need the earlier version restored to keep things working. This must be the longest running "end of support" ever!

Another two updates this month! KB4493179 (PowerPoint) KB4493180 (Office) KB4493180 contains another XP incompatible version of MSO.DLL, so will need the earlier version restored to keep things working. This must be the longest running "end of support" ever!

Thanks for the heads up on this! If it needs another thread (this thread is really only about web multimedia technologies) I'll split it off, but we'll see how it goes.

Threads merged. @videobruce Please don't start duplicate threads.

I've now put some hopefully useful links in the first post. Any that are not appropriate (or wrong!) and any further suggestions for additions, please let me know! Cheers, Dave.