Dave-H

Well I've had a quick look, and needless to say I found no definitive answer about dual antennas! I found one reference which declared that the main is for 2.4GHz wi-fi, and the aux is for 5GHz wi-fi, but I don't actually think that's correct. Most others said that using two antennas just gives better performance, and the module uses the one with the best signal. It does seem that the card will work perfectly happily on wi-fi and Bluetooth with only one antenna connected, so I don't think that having only one antenna is causing your Bluetooth issue.

Thank you.

I added a second antenna to my netbook, which actually was designed for a full-sized laptop, so the wire was far too long! It's marked as an "aux" antenna, but what the physical difference is between a "main" antenna and an "aux" antenna I have no idea, they look pretty identical to me. I don't think that the main antenna is for wi-fi and the aux antenna is for bluetooth, AFAIK. Both should work just with one antenna connected I would have thought, although probably with reduced transmit and receive power. I'll do a bit more research on this.

The last XP compatible MSO.DLL is version 14.0.7214.5000, which was included in update KB4092483. The most recent incompatible MSO.DLL is in KB4504703, and is version 14.0.7266.5000. HTH.

I guess that the really cheap keys that are being sold for Windows are like the ones being sold for Office. IIRC they are OEM multiple use keys, and I read that it was ruled in court that selling them was perfectly legal, much to Microsoft's annoyance I'm sure! Doesn't explain why a Windows 8.1 key should unlock Windows 10 though!

I had my Windows 10 system in a sort of half and half mode between using a local account and using a Microsoft account. Somehow I managed to lose this, and it took me a very long time to find how to restore it back again! I'm just putting the answer here in case anyone wants to use it, and to remind myself how to do it if I have to do it again in future! The advantage of how I have Windows 10 set up, at least for me, is that as Windows is fundamentally still logged on with a local account, I can use any user name I like, in my case just "Dave". You cannot do this with a Microsoft account as you can't have a singe word user name. Also, I can set it to log in automatically when I boot up, something that as far as I know you can't do when logged in with a Microsoft account. The mode I was using allows all this, but the system still looks as if it is logged in with a Microsoft account. The banner on the settings home page looks right, all the Microsoft apps log in automatically and even the sync system works, all still with a local account. The way you do it is to make sure firstly that you are logged in with a local account, then you need to log out of all Microsoft apps like Cortana and Edge. Go to the accounts settings page and remove any Microsoft accounts listed there. Then go to the Microsoft Store app, and if necessary log out of that too. Count to ten, then log back into the Store app again. When the login dialogue runs, ignore the "Microsoft Apps Only" link, and carry on logging in normally. If you do this in many places, it starts the procedure to switch the whole of Windows over to using a Microsoft account to log in for the future, but for some reason the Windows Store login does not do that, however once you've logged in there you will find that your Microsoft account has appeared in the "accounts used by other apps" area of the accounts setting page, and all Microsoft apps (except strangely in my case, the Photos app) will log in automatically when you run them. You should now be able to enable sync too if you want to use it, which is normally impossible with a local account. If you want to return to normal, simply click on the link to stop Microsoft apps logging in automatically on the "your info" settings page. This should return you to a normal local account setup. I hope this might be useful for people, and sorry if it's already common knowledge! As I said it took me a lot of digging to find out how to configure it manually at will. Cheers, Dave.

You normally have to have at least one administrative account on the machine AFAIK. Presumably you can't just change your account to an admistrator account in Control Panel>User Accounts? If you go to Computer Management>System Tools>Local Users and Groups>Users is the default admin account listed there? If it is, right click on it, select Properties, and check that it's not disabled. If it is, enable it.

Yes, it is very odd indeed! The first two updates I got from the WSUS system worked fine, and were added to my history. The last one, which was an update for Office 2010, installed fine, but when I checked after it had installed, my whole history had been wiped, and only that update was listed! Ever since then, any attempt at an update check has resulted in the history being wiped again after being restored from a backup which includes the first two updates, but not the third one which seemed to trigger the problem.

It hasn't been possible to use the IE8 Microsoft Update or Windows Update interface for quite some time AFAIK, it just starts scanning and immediately fails, although it will still show you your installed updates history. I have been using WUMT, but even if that wasn't run, a background automatic update check seemed to be enough to wipe my history, which usually happened a short time after a boot.

Just a quick update on my situation. It looks as if the act of checking for updates using the WSUS server is causing my existing updates history to be wiped. Could this be because the old updates are not considered compatible or something? Anyway, I have now switched automatic updates off completely, and so far my history has stayed intact.

OK, I'm beginning to think that my problem is perhaps because my update history is too large? My datastore.edb file is 134MB, and contains over 1500 entries going back over ten years. I'm wondering if it's that which is causing the errors which are resulting in it being cleared. I deleted the SoftwareDistribution folder completely and let the system recreate it. WUM then didn't show any errors, but just scanned forever without ever finding anything or completing. When I restored the original datastore.edb file from a backup it then failed, wrote the above error into the event log, and cleared the database. So, is there a known limit to how big the installed updates database can be? I can't find any reference to one anywhere. My netbook, where everything seems to work fine with exactly the same setup, has a very much smaller Windows Update history.

Another incompatible MSO.DLL this month BTW!

Just another heads up! Later today the yellow shield popped up again in the system tray of my main machine, rather unexpectedly. It was offering an update to Excel 2010, KB4493222, which is fine but a bit strange as there were five Office 2010 updates this month, and that was not one of them! In fact I found that update (alone) was rolled out in February, and I installed it then manually from the Update Catalogue, so it should have already been on the system. Anyway, it apparently installed fine, but when I checked my update record, I found that the record of all my previous over a thousand updates had been wiped, and only KB4493222 was there! I had to restore the updates record from a backup, which doesn't of course include the latest one. So, do watch out for this, that is the first time that's happened. I'm also having a problem with the Windows Update MiniTool on my main machine, although it's working fine on the netbook. The two machines are apparently set up identically, but on the main machine WUMT just scans for a while and then fails with error 0x8024402B all the time. Also after that, there is an error in my Application event log again - This error appears five times in quick succession. Has anyone else seen this?

LOL, I was going to correct the error in the thread title (I hate spelling mistakes in thread titles!) but I won't now as it will spoil the joke!

Just to update, I was subsequently offered KB2813347 on my netbook, which installed fine!

Just an update on my experience with my netbook using the WSUS update system. On my main machine I was offered KB969084, and then after that subsequently KB2813347. On my netbook I was also offered KB969084, but not KB2813347, at least not yet! I was however offered no less than three versions of KB4500331! KB969084 installed fine, as did the other three apparently, but as soon as they had installed, all three version of KB4500331 said they needed to be installed again! I installed them several times with the same result, including just trying the first version by itself, but no difference. KB4500331 replaces a file called termdd.sys in the Windows\System32\Drivers folder. When I looked, the new version was on the system in the DLLCache, but the old version was still in the Drivers folder. I deleted it, Windows File Protection immediately put the newer version in place of it from the DLLCache, and everything was then fine. It looks as if the update, despite numerous attempts, had not managed to replace the file in the Drivers folder! Strange, as it wasn't even locked, I could just delete it with no problem. Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone else runs into the same issue.

Another five updates today! KB4493214 (Office) KB4504702 (PowerPoint) KB4484376 (Visio) KB4504703 (Office) KB4504707 (Excel) Why we're still getting Office 2010 updates five months after support was supposedly ended I have no idea!

Well, another five updates today! KB4493214 (Office) KB4504702 (PowerPoint) KB4484376 (Visio) KB4504703 (Office) KB4504707 (Excel) Why we're still getting Office 2010 updates five months after support was supposedly ended I have no idea!

I'm pretty sure that the updates you're getting aren't new. They're legacy ones from probably years ago. All that's happening is that if you uninstall them, when you check for updates again the same ones are being reinstalled. Even when things go out of support, legacy updates usually stay on Microsoft's servers until they eventually remove them, but that's often many years later. As I said earlier, I have Office 2010 installed but I don't have Outlook or Access enabled in the installation. I still get updates for them, that's normal behaviour. It's not reinstalling the items you're not using, it's just parking the update files on your machine so that if you do activate any more parts of the Office suite in the future, the most up to date files are already there. If you look on your system drive root you will probably find a folder called MSOCache (it may be hidden). That's where the updates are kept.

I don't see why you're quite so against having updates on the system for things you don't use. I would just let the updates install, make sure that the parts of Office that you don't use are still disabled, and leave it at that. There won't be any more updates for Office 2007 now, so that should be the end of it, and if you do need to reactivate any other parts of Office in the future, the latest patches will already be there ready and waiting on the machine. As I said, apart from using a bit of disk space, which I doubt is an issue, there's absolutely no harm in keeping the updates there. I get that you don't like on principle having unused updates on your system, but it wouldn't worry me personally. I have considered putting more memory in my machine, just for Windows 10 of course, but as I've never seen it using more than two thirds of what's there, even when running notoriously resource hungry Adobe programs, I've never bothered.

Is the Bluetooth device being displayed in Device Manager OK? There should be an "Intel Centrino Wireless (Bluetooth Adapter)" entry under "Bluetooth Devices". There should be a Bluetooth icon in the system tray and a "My Bluetooth" icon in "My Computer" too.

LOL! If I were you, if you've uninstalled any of the Office 2007 updates, I would do a manual Windows Update check and let them install again, and then make sure that the Office Suite is configured the way that you want it. If you only want to use Word, disable everything else using the installation modification feature in Programs and Features. The updates for the parts of the suite you're not using will still be on the machine, but they shouldn't do any harm other than using a bit of disk space. I very much doubt if you'll be troubled by any more updates, but if you leave the existing ones uninstalled they will install again if you do another update check for any reason.

Was this a recent install of Office 2007 then? If so the first time an update check was done after the install you would have got all the updates that were available up to end of support. I'll be very surprised if you get any more in future though! If parts of the suite that you don't want have been installed by the updates, just uninstall them using the programs and features dialogue. That should still work in Office 2007 as far as I know. You shouldn't get any more updates or unwanted reconfigurations after you've done that. As for my hair, I assume you're looking at my avatar, but you should see it now after more than two months of lockdown here in England if you think that's long! As for triple booting, what can I say? I'm a computer nerd!

@forjonny If you're using Office 2007 I'm surprised you're still getting updates at all. Office 2010 supposedly went out of support last October, so surely Office 2007 must have gone out of support well before that? Did you get the update you're referring to through Windows Update, or by some other means?

I have Office 2010 installed on Windows XP on my main machine, and on Windows 10 on another machine, and I don't have Outlook installed because I don't need it. However when updates are rolled out through Windows Update I still got updates for Outlook if they are available. This does not re-enable Outlook in my Office installation though. I guess they still download and apply the updates even for sections of the Office Suite that you're not using so it's fully patched if you ever do decide to activate them. I use the click to run version of Office 2019 on Windows 10 on my main machine, and was given no choice as to what to install. If you can choose if you use the Office Deployment Tool that's good, but I've never used that.